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Rhiannon12866

(241,334 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 10:41 PM Aug 18

⚡️NATO Secretary General Rutte said this straight to Zelenskyy's face! Immediate STATEMENTS from the EU shocked everyone



European leaders who converged on the White House for talks on the Russia-Ukraine war demonstrated a united front on Ukraine's security Monday, underscoring the issue as pivotal for the entire continent, not just Ukraine. - War & Politics 24 - 08/18/2025.
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Rhiannon12866

(241,334 posts)
2. No, it's not just you, he's totally out of his depth...
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 10:58 PM
Aug 18

Especially when dealing with seasoned leaders who completely understand the issues at stake.

Deuxcents

(23,677 posts)
4. Yes he is. He has no clue what they mean by "ceasefire" "truce" "security"..he just nods his head and brags
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:21 PM
Aug 18

About all the wars he has miraculously put an end to. This delegation knows the seriousness of these negotiations because they are well aware of Russia’s broken promises and what Putin is capable of but he’s infatuated with the madman and if I was a betting person, I’d wager he has no clue of even recent history of those involved..nor does he seem to care about anything but hurry up and end this war and give me the peace prize.

Rhiannon12866

(241,334 posts)
6. He didn't even recognize Finland's leader though he'd met him before
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:38 PM
Aug 18

And you're right, these world leaders know the seriousness of this situation and are willing to listen to TFG if that's what it takes to support Zelenskyy and secure a lasting peace. Kudos to them!

vapor2

(2,907 posts)
8. Appears to be drugged or drunk or simply clueless
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:53 PM
Aug 18

Not used to being surrounded by intelligent minds and seems to have been off in la la land

RainCaster

(13,035 posts)
3. I have never seen anyone who requires so much puffery
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:14 PM
Aug 18

Every one of those European attendees had to praise TSF for all his "efforts" in making this happen.

Pure bullshit. They know it, but they also know that is what must be done with this narcissist.

Rhiannon12866

(241,334 posts)
5. Well said. I cringed to hear the leaders praising him, but they're determined to support Zelenskyy
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:33 PM
Aug 18

And determined to do whatever it takes. And to see all of these leaders making the journey to intervene in what previously were failed negations truly impressed me and gave me confidence that Zelenskyy can succeed.

Rhiannon12866

(241,334 posts)
11. This is the Liberal YouTubers Forum, one of two video forums that EarlG created for DU.4 replacing V&M.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 01:54 AM
Tuesday

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #11)

FoggyLake

(294 posts)
10. They're all being taken for a ride
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 01:46 AM
Tuesday

Trump is Putin's cohort, accomplice and collaborator. He's leading everyone on, pretending to be on the level. But he and Putin have already made a plan to buy time for Putin to steal more land while everyone "has meetings."

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