Apr 23, 2026 The Mishal Husain Show
Were now eight weeks on from the start of the US-Israel war with Iran, a conflict thats been watched with increasing alarm by Wendy Sherman, architect of the 2015 nuclear deal between the US and Iran and a former deputy secretary of state.
Having spent years across the table from Iranian officials, she sees a far more volatile landscape today. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, she shares how her concerns go beyond the Middle East and explains how China and Russia are beneficiaries of the war.
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00:00 Introduction from Mishal Husain
02:53 Irans culture of resistance
03:38 The regime now is more hardline
04:17 Iran wont make concessions easily
08:20 Control of the Strait of Hormuz
09:40 They have not bombed away all of Irans knowledge
13:02 Negotiating with Iran
17:27 Negotiations arent about trust
22:32 What might a US deal with Iran look like?
23:35 Iran will want the US out of the Middle East
27:25 China is stronger
31:54 Trumps visit to China
39:27 I have found myself angrier