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Related: About this forumJD Vance says Putin 'not at all' misleading Trump in Ukraine talks: Full interview - Meet the Press
In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Vice President JD Vance says sanctions arent off the table as Trump tries to get Russian President Putin and Ukrainian President Zelenskyy together for peace talks. - Aired on 08/24/2025.
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JD Vance says Putin 'not at all' misleading Trump in Ukraine talks: Full interview - Meet the Press (Original Post)
Rhiannon12866
Aug 24
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How would he know what's on or off the table? TACO doesn't seem too sure himself.
marble falls
Aug 24
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MaddowBlog-JD Vance flunks the basics on World War II as the White House targets history museums
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 25
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marble falls
(67,995 posts)1. How would he know what's on or off the table? TACO doesn't seem too sure himself.
rickyhall
(5,483 posts)2. Who does JD work for exactly?
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,209 posts)3. MaddowBlog-JD Vance flunks the basics on World War II as the White House targets history museums
If anyone would benefit from some quality time at a history museum, its White House officials. Take Vances line on the end of World War II, for example.
GIVE JD VANCE A MAGA DUNCE CAP!
— Tabby (@tabbys-corner.bsky.social) 2025-08-25T15:17:20.232Z
Vance has officially earned it!
JD Vance flunks the basics on World War II as the White House targets history museums www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vance-flunks-basics-world-war-ii-white-house-targets-history-museum-rcna226952
His vice president isnt much better. HuffPost noted:
NBC News Kristen Welker asked the Ohio Republican an important question, If Russia is allowed to keep any of the territory that it illegally seized, what message does that send to China? Does it give China a green light to invade Taiwan? Does it give Russia a green light to invade other European countries, which is what your European allies are concerned about?
Instead of answering the question directly, Vance took issue with the premise.
......Specifically as to World War II, the United States and its allies gave the Axis powers two choices: death or unconditional surrender. Negotiated settlements were not on the table and at no point did the U.S. consider allowing Germany or Japan to keep territories they had illegally seized by force.
The global conflict was resolved in Europe when Germany collapsed and Adolf Hitler killed himself, ahead of Japans surrender after the American bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki......
As for how and why Vance got this wrong, its possible that the vice president is just confused. Its also possible that hes laying the groundwork for a White House policy that would reward Russia for its invasion, as if this is simply how wars ultimately get settled.
Vice President JD Vance fumbled some very textbook facts of world history while talking foreign policy on Sundays Meet the Press. During the interview, the Yale Law School alum defended President Donald Trumps decision to entertain Russias terms for a peace deal with Ukraine by claiming all wars end in compromise.
NBC News Kristen Welker asked the Ohio Republican an important question, If Russia is allowed to keep any of the territory that it illegally seized, what message does that send to China? Does it give China a green light to invade Taiwan? Does it give Russia a green light to invade other European countries, which is what your European allies are concerned about?
Instead of answering the question directly, Vance took issue with the premise.
JD Vance: "This is how wars ultimately get settled. If you go back to World War 2, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-08-24T14:17:02.215Z
......Specifically as to World War II, the United States and its allies gave the Axis powers two choices: death or unconditional surrender. Negotiated settlements were not on the table and at no point did the U.S. consider allowing Germany or Japan to keep territories they had illegally seized by force.
The global conflict was resolved in Europe when Germany collapsed and Adolf Hitler killed himself, ahead of Japans surrender after the American bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki......
As for how and why Vance got this wrong, its possible that the vice president is just confused. Its also possible that hes laying the groundwork for a White House policy that would reward Russia for its invasion, as if this is simply how wars ultimately get settled.