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Scapegoated for reporting (Original Post) MutantAndProud Aug 2023 OP
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That makes sense MutantAndProud Oct 2023 #2
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Shoshana Zuboff is correct MutantAndProud Oct 2023 #7
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I think the coercive elements have definitely caused it to get worse MutantAndProud Feb 2024 #16
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It's a major export right now MutantAndProud Feb 2024 #19
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Stackexchange is pretty nice for clues and answers MutantAndProud Mar 2024 #22
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It happens MutantAndProud Mar 2024 #24
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It's not abnormal to become- MutantAndProud Mar 2024 #27
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Looks like you are gone jfz9580m Apr 25 #35
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MutantAndProud

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2. That makes sense
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:49 PM
Oct 2023

I wish you well on your side of that journey… mine never ceases to amaze me

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MutantAndProud

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4. Shining light on the situation
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:55 PM
Oct 2023

Does take a bit of effort and mental stamina, I documented for over a year and now they’re starting to claim victimhood because I wasn’t passive about finding contradictions. I take that as a good sign…

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MutantAndProud

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7. Shoshana Zuboff is correct
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:56 PM
Oct 2023

Our system now is completely different from what it was in 2012, and 2008, 2007, 2001… 1999/2000.

I lost my anonymity due to it being forced. There is no way to undo that now, but de-anonymizing me was not something I take lightly and I am not afraid of bringing things as public as necessary to put an end to this and force the conversation into the public, as corrupt as some of the modern forums are.

Funnily enough, I was at a bar the other week during a rare visit out for Pride and someone forcibly downloaded Pokémon Go onto my phone without my knowledge or consent… I suppose to let me know they’re nearby and fully capable of remote control of the networks, for now. They will be found out.

Thank you for offering your words of support and encouragement.

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MutantAndProud

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16. I think the coercive elements have definitely caused it to get worse
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 07:52 PM
Feb 2024

It’s nauseating. I have nausea for medical reasons as well but that’s not the point. I’ve seen it all my life. I’m not a woman but as a small guy and an easily preyed upon one I’ve had an insane amount of predators target me. They are so consistently broken I don’t even know where to start. I don’t actually advocate for wanton mass-tranquilizing (See Firefly and Serenity…) since I try to adhere to scientific principles and take each individual as they are… but there are so many weaseling their way into places they don’t belong. A lot of them don’t even know how to bond, they just turn into flocks of flying monkeys. I’ve sometimes been called out for mocking it instead of simply denouncing it but honestly neither approach actually works, they’re broken and keep breaking other systems and new generations ad nauseum. I’ve started working with someone to talk about the stress of it and set new goals. Leaving is an option… staying has cost me in a lot of ways.

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MutantAndProud

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19. It's a major export right now
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 03:36 AM
Feb 2024

The global deregulation paired with coercion is not an accident, it’s the precursor to, basically, the new phase of the Nazi movement. With an increase in population comes an increase in potential recruits and people to beat down and deprive. The authoritarian communists aren’t any better. So, yeah, definitely standing my ground. Much like in WW2, sometimes they only respond to being taken out of power. There are more atrocities to uncover from the internet era’s fog of war, and things are not always as they seem when you don’t have a bird’s eye view. Old/bad compromises and radicalism of many varieties are a lifelong struggle we’re going to have to deal with.

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MutantAndProud

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22. Stackexchange is pretty nice for clues and answers
Fri Mar 1, 2024, 10:47 AM
Mar 2024

I agree it’s nothing unique to one party or country… working on making peace with it being a natural occurrence and figuring out a plan to relocate somewhere more private away from this toxic crowd. There just isn’t much else to do besides making reports, gathering evidence when possible, and being a ‘squeaky wheel’ if necessary.

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MutantAndProud

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24. It happens
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 01:25 AM
Mar 2024

I agree with a lot of what you say. My situation is slightly different, I actually enjoy being around people and sometimes certain crowds incognito, on the other hand groups have intentionally encroached into my life and personal spaces in very invasive ways making it nearly impossible to live while being fishbowled.

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MutantAndProud

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27. It's not abnormal to become-
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 05:04 PM
Mar 2024

-sensitive to repeat stimuli. But I am in the same position. My methodology exposed the stimuli sources as needed and I rolled that back upon completion. I won’t say it’s ’all good’ (as you say, that would be bullshitting myself and you etc), because technology is leveraging the worst aspects of humanity. But it is a good choice to follow your gut feeling if withdrawing from some social zones reduces exposure to toxicity. They’ll always exist in some way or another. Unless you have specific people you want to stay in touch with or have to get through a few professional steps to tie up loose ends there’s really no harm in moving on to a different area.

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jfz9580m

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35. Looks like you are gone
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 06:46 AM
Apr 25

I am filing allegations of misconduct, malpractice, sexual and other harassment wrt most of what I have seen at all outside the routine between Dec 2012 and the present in India.

I am also filing allegations of both psychiatric malpractice and misconduct in human subject research wrt the period from 2000-2014, where applicable in the US.

I have no quarrels with the three labs I worked in, nor most of my doctors.

But the rest is deeply misogynistic, predatory and parasitic.

But I will proceed more neatly from here on out.

A serious complaint can be neatly organized, minimalistic and elegant.

If in addition to one’s usual workload, a complaint falls to one’s lot, one might as well go about it in an organized way.

It always angered me to have a repellent, encroaching, parasitic technology sucking away one’s life.

While no part of this will have any medical or academic utility, I am easier in my mind having decided how to proceed.

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jfz9580m

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36. I understand finally
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 10:53 AM
Apr 25

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I get why my behaviors have been so erratic.

I had 33 years of a fairly pleasant and uneventful life (22 years in India, then 11 in the US). Yeah there was a scammy EECS dept that took 25-35 k from one, but didn’t bother with any guidance or involvement. A stark difference from my first postdoc mentor who invested a lot of time and effort in mentoring all of us.

Yeah there are creeps out there, but they never had any power over me nor control. I had a happy childhood and home. My first two labs were cool. My ex and I split up, but we remain close friends to this day. I cannot remember a time he was anything but completely supportive. My best friend, like my ex, is family.

And then I went to this hell in Si Valley. It really was a hell and so I came back to India. And even at the hell, my direct mentor was nice. He was a new parent and not tenured. And I was ..not a good fit for that place. He was a decent man though his school’s psychiatry dept is just vile.

But that place was built by and full of too many of the types of people who should just be avoided. And his being decent was inadequate given that both the city and the school violated common sense norms re IRB protocols and informed consent.

And a decent enough network, that is still not very politically savvy about what they are in, was not for me.

After that things just kept getting worse and my mental state started to deteriorate.

I used to watch Ex-Machina and feel sympathetic towards Domnhall Gleeson’s character while also thinking “Two weeks? Wait till you are stuck in shitty experiments conducted by completely brainless morons for over a decade.”

That was the part that embittered me the most. That these were not people who are anything like say Prof Steve Chu. As an example of the more typical strict academic everyone fears the way normal students and postdocs fear normal scientists, who are scary but not depressing like some sort of creep of that V.S. Ramachandran, Alex Pentland type..

This awful sleazy, dull, “charismatic” huckster who writes awful airport bestsellers that horrible people read.

It was incomprehensible. I honestly couldn’t tell what happened to science and medicine as I knew it and where this brainless creep type rather than the routine dull - I mean bright, strict etc, but not spectacular and kind of embarrassing.

Like I can’t see anyone normal wanting to be associated with any of these people or those guys. Science isn’t a monolith and by my estimate except as a freakshow no one would want to be near Milgram, Zimbardo.

Those guys are douchebags who are written about in tabloids and near the movie industry.

I get now why people at those schools are so uptight, tense etc. They work adjacent to the kinds of people most normal scientists - well okay anyone I would know - kinda tacky. Who knows the kinds of people who want to be on tv and write rubbishy bestsellers? Douchebags that is who. It was terrifyingly tacky and they don’t even see themselves as on the continuum which Trump and Epstein lie on.

A lot of the better people whose professions by necessity involve a public facing role don’t really enjoy that.

That other type - They are not people any sane scientist would want to have a mental breakdown near.

I had no mental illness. But I had this cognitive dissonance that comes from 33 years of learning that was positive in conflict with these new creepy experiences and for the first time the worst kinds of humans having power over one’s life.

Now I am returning to normal and reminded of how alien trauma, depression etc are for me. I have never been solipsistic and ever had the view that the world centres around me and so being aware of the state of the world, I was impersonally glum about the state of earth, factory farming etc. But this is different from some morons annoying one specifically.

And the thing about the effect the creeps have on one - it actually works to help those jerks/these creeps. It is why they aggressively noise pollute and do all these retaliatory and harassing things.

The more emotional or stressed you get, the less likely it is that you can be as coherent a complainant and get neutral parties to start to believe you.

And I am only now starting to get it. The “services” inside this corrupt, parasitic fraud are worthless.

But I am recovering because clearly it was not me and I was not mentally ill.

I think I have a much better shot of taking on these complaints as my old self.

Simply put I think a lot of these men, tech people etc are unfit to work with or around women without strict supervision of the sane type.

I don’t consider these guys even marginally competent based on all this. And the whole thing - I will be filing misconduct, malpractice, exploitation and harassment allegations.
But it has to be done professionally.

As a start, along with this paper I am wrapping up, I will slowly post a cohesive narrative on DU which I have found an invaluable tool since I trust EarlG/elad and am grateful that MIRT keeps trolls out.

This has really helped me.

There was never even a sane way to file complaints and I am not going to go and post on Twitter or Facebook or any of those creep owned places.

When I was looking at stories of the Epstein survivors I noticed how..well I certainly was moved. Most of those young women lead such hard lives.

Predatory men need strict oversight especially at a time like this.

In addition to the work people like Yasha Levine or Chris Ketcham do to take on the challenges of these times, it also is uphill bringing back women’s rights over allowing corrupt and creepy tech people just make all these changes and grab space and bring their tacky, creepy worlds into one’s home or street.

Strict harassment laws (which include the types of women I have seen driving down my street - the types of women who would associate with those men) are essential to end this. No free lunch for tech or the types of “scientists” and “doctors” who work with them.

It cannot separate out along lines of the spaces the creepy, corrupt and regressive and the civilized. So no more of this making and building without any permits, any oversight and what has happened must result in charges wherever necessary.



Street misogynist log.
Unambiguous harasser: 7:59 pm, April 30, 2026
Creep on bike with silencer off
I hope this entire crowd is arrested some day along with those who let this go on

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jfz9580m

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41. Black Mirror's Crocodile
Wed Apr 29, 2026, 10:30 AM
Wednesday

(First para recycled from a response to DUer irisblue; taking things less at facevalue with DU. I usually try to ignore any information that the types of people I have met since 2012 transmit, as I don’t want some sort of unsaid sense that there is some of participation from my side. But this EarlG/elad’s forum and I trust EarlG and elad and no human is error proof, but that’s actual human trust. People make mistakes. I would not blame anyone who made a mistake in good faith. I already pay for services from people whose services I use etc. The working parts of the state are a credit to society -I have not seen those in a long time outside the routine; I trust a subset of the scientific and medical community). Anyway..

I was looking in grim amusement at the traffic on my street here in India. Some of it is probably routine traffic. Anyway it made me think of the Black Mirror episdode “Crocodile”. It is a metaphor for the ongoing goings and I have mixed feelings about metaphors. Still..

In this world routine traffic on this street would have to fit the following strict criterion: 1) They drove down this street with absolutely NO awareness that this street is in any way different from any other street they drive down in this city and they were not diverted here thanks to the types of urban planning projects etc that have proliferated here and are not part of a probe or test etc (hence the reference to Crocodile); and 2) it is routine traffic tied to deliveries of routine goods and services to this street

For the rest, Black Mirror’s Crocodile applies to all parties involved in this.
The impact on this location and the humans here make me think of a metaphorical wound where rather than: 1) allow natural healing processes of the human body or 2) assist healing with modern medicine, a quack driving an automated tractor for a factory farm is sent in who attaches leeches to the wound and then rapes the victim for good measure. Those are all metaphors and not like various actual physical rapes. I have been a little careless about language myself and that is not ideal as I myself object to flimsy metaphors. But sometimes as a one-off an explicit simile like that can work.

My brain broke badly in the Dec of 2011 as a result of these parasitic and ill-conceived experiments and it has been a lot worse with every passing year since I came back.
But now I am sure I am recovering - natural healing processes of the brain and I am trying to help them along by keeping this in mind. Learning that happens fast.

I have realized that I have been forced to think like one of those Ais. What was it Adam Becker said? The blurred out and smeared out fuzzy voice of the internet.

A thing that has no idea what anything is and is monstrously forced on people destroying their natural intelligence thanks to…
I shall stop there. I understand the kinds of people who sign up for stuff like this well.

I have avoided fatuously enthusiastic people who like crowds and want to be on tv and photographed for most of my life anywhere. I wasn’t expecting that in a science job.

The involvement of robotics will not shield anyone. A robotic cleaner next door just started whining and I cslled my cousin and she told me that was what it was. I know my cousin and she isn’t part of some sort of scam in multiple countries being sold by the private sector and multiple parasitic entities trying to exploit ai and humans. It stopped whining as I am typing this.
None of the participants in this who knew otoh should expect to get away with anti social experiments exploiting chaos, corruption and different types of self serving opportunism.
It may be 75% right and 25% “left” in any real sense and that is not a type of “left” to coddle.

I realized something about Epstein victims etc. One knows it in the abstract about the environment and animal rights ans screwed over people in general. But personally experiencing it, I realized something useful for people who are screwed over as someone who was not always screwed over.
Which is that the targets of human malice and misogyny not as this thing’s autowrong suggest “mismanagement”.

That knowing you are in the decent position not these guys does one no good in the middle of a conflict.

In fact it makes it worse. So one has to keep one’s head and document it making allowances for false positives, ordinary annoyances, shameful behavior by a corrupt and misogynistic system that wants you to negotiate with such people, after one person is already dead.
Each participant will trivialise their role. They only need to aggressively noise pollute snd they expect to get away with “boys will be boys”.
Other parasitic observers looking for trauma porn to market adding to the crowd makes it worse.
This is the fault of the state and the private sector.
This govt is going out of power. If the next one does not shut this down but doubles down this will get even worse.
This needs to be shut down immediately and this location shut off for all construction and those involved should be detained.
I understand the mentality well.
Epstein died in prison. This won’t end well for the people who participated and continued ignoring of this by the Indian state with brusque refusal to show any decency after a cancer patient died in this location is not recommended.

jfz9580m

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42. ..
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:42 AM
Thursday

I took a few snapshots of the street traffic. With that it should be possible to reconstruct the whole using records that exist somewhere.
In a country where gangrapes, acid attacks etc are not unheard of rolling out a Panopticon like this with tech cos and the general sexism and misogyny of the whole, all 14 years of it, will not age well.

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43. I refuse to be a human research subject for another day
Sat May 2, 2026, 04:07 AM
Yesterday

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I have no wish to “work with” Tata for a loan of junk tech to isolate botnets. It is okay. People make mistakes and I am never a jerk or a bully let alone easily traumatized.
But it didn’t work and it should be shut down now without destroying my remaining resources or that of people actually in my small, resource depleted and strained network of my ex, my best friend from grad school, more distantly my main mentor and my oncologist and my last mentor’s wife (he should not be offended-I still care enough to pick his wife as the person to connect human science with instead of being an asshole. But that psychiatric hospital really angered me. Those people are idiots). And even more distantly my PhD mentor who is cool but way back in time.

I am not a protester. I will go to the working parts of the Indian and American states and file complaints about the whole.
This should be aborted immediately.

Anything useful should only go where simple overt symbiosis without add ons.

I said “No” the minute I saw this. I don’t want any of this. I don’t think at Max Planck this would fly. And they are not nazis or good Germans.
They have some damn standards
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This is an embarassment to the US, India and China, Russia and the Middle East are not democracies.
I get it and I am not doing this.

I get nothing out of it and the security risk is dithering about trying to understand drivel.
These are largely not very nice people and it is a strain on all the nicer people and the more honest, less bullying and less autocratic people/
And it is a scam. To dick over your colleagues who rely on federally funded civilian science because you can count on Chan Zuckerberg, Clare Wu.
I have no objection to honest military work and that cannot drag civilians.
Do I see cut out for a photoop?

No. What I am any good for is not allowed. Which is I am reliable if you want a stable job and are basically honest.
We all have flaws.
I am in this because of outdated narcotics laws

Revisionism is a waste of time. Scale offences and context correctly with actual pragmatism.
To the extent that I have colleagues in this it is these people: EarlG/elad/EarlG curated DU, Yasha Levine, Chris Ketcham, Ed Zitron, Nathan Robinson and team (minus Yasmin Nair. I have a strict -same thing women use to know when you cannot date someone and why this was never viable) etc.
This has to be aborted immediately.
I have to finish a paper and after that I will contact my mentor.
I cannot just go to him with bullshit.

He is cool the real way. But he is not someone you can just take a bunch of garbage to. He doesn’t work at Harvard. He is an actual, real scientist not someone who roleplays that.

Worst case I lose access to medical marijuana. Big deal. But this cannot go on.
It is just insulting all around.
I can read minds. Just not insane ones.

And no Trump. He is crazy. I will file complaints later after you have all figured out why you are as crazy as you. It is truly not my problem.
Get Prof Lecun or Bender or Ryan Williams or Prof Wigderson or Dr Clayton Dalton or someone to help. Anyone.
Don’t annoy me anymore. I cooperate with my labs without enthusiam but this endless stream of daft people no.
Yasha Levine or Current Affairs or Chauncey DeVega or Briahna Joy Gray or Prof Omar Suleiman or Pastor Jeffrey Dale of Broadview Church or Bishop Marian Budde or Lucien Greaves or Warren Hern can decode this to the merely intensely stupid without actual malice.
Or really anyone but me.
It won’t be a punchline but it is a huge waste of life and that’s the kind of thing pills say and I didn’t want to say the type of thing that fairly repellant people say.
Otoh its all billionaire moron or scammer run snd I took it personally and you shouldn’t.
But I am aborting this coat hanger style and taking it to authorities who don’t exist and people who don’t know but of the Lina Khan type.
Not one person who makes sense is a fool or a scammer.


These people are mean spirited and that shows up in their algorithms and my data is radioactive so that given tbat I am not an asshole nor gullibleZ
I learnt a bunch of stuff but it wss painfuk and if i had a do over, I would major in physics in college and enter the biophysical sciences that way not via engineering and then I would not have been defrauded by EECS.
2:18 pm: another harassing creep here in india a counter example to something online is stalkerishly do harassing things on my street and stress me so I don’t get any health benefits from running outside.
This is why this whole thing was a terrible idea.

Marijuana will get legalized without my allowing rubber stamps from China or Blackstone affiliates. If the legal part is confusing, the human part is not.
Quit trying to best me. Idiots.

There is no need to bring out tankers etc. I don’t know how to conservative men. But I never lie about serious things like sexual harassment, science or politics.

My dad is conservative - an honest conservative. He talks a lot in ways that make me happy he doesn’t have a social media account. He would stand his ground too and argue with idiots .

It is not the same thing. Well okay. A little.
I hate all sorts of douchebags claiming to me more woke than I am .
My wokeness isn’t from something I learnt in a class. It is a learned response.
It is practically useful not at all symbolic.

Which is why I see a wasteland with no relief in sight.
I have to draft something for Activist HQ.


I was a publicly funded scientist and if it didn’t feel precarious as belonging in the realm of the imaginary/philosophical more than material (complaint filing aside), I would say I am a citizen scientist here in India, though educated in the US (and how).

Trump 2.0 is metaphoric covid 2.0.

I have to now carefully draft posts. I am aborting something using a minimal tool set beyond untapped pugnacity.

That is the vaccination for people who don’t get that childfree catladies aren’t going to hand their street and home over. And informed consent and IRB protocols cannot be thrown away just because of billionaires.
I suppose this is a metaphoric toxic secretion

My govt here in India better shut this down and distance themselves from this and get me a legal path to full citizenship in my own country instead of having tried from all sides to use me, my home and street.

As for the US, I will need to have a word with the NIH and the 3 educational institutions I worked at about some of this. And I have a complaint to file against a city and a hospital, just I have complaints to file here in India.

The vaccine here is learning not


jfz9580m

(17,662 posts)
44. This was your last post
Sat May 2, 2026, 07:11 AM
Yesterday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182018142#post20

Well this is a bit easier. I no longer put anything in my journal where people outside DU can see it.
Gratitude is a funny thing. I am grateful to EarlH because I am uneven tempered enough to be a difficult DUer.

But I am not meant for a law of the jungle world. Lots of women are angry and stressed when dealing with the solutions of this race to the bottom type you find at Stanford who then turn around and basically would smear one as a racist or sexist because they are that fucking shallow.
And this Trumper insanity/

I don’t have the luxury of being rude to everyone crazy adjacent only those who flood my street.
But this thread is one I will vent my frustrations in.
Back when there were actual laws protecting women in the workplace this would not be online.

But it is not any one thing/ it is everything.
So I will treat this one thread as a place where stuff I would not post in any other forum goes.

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45. I am not slow (deleted from LuckyCharms' thread)
Sat May 2, 2026, 07:12 AM
Yesterday

Nor clogged up. I am more popular than Josh!
I hate that guy. That is the type of leftist everyone hates unlike Yasha.
Well not hate. I have confused feelings about Josh. There is the type of insanity or stupidity where Josh may look better.


I have a feeling Josh contributed to Trump way more than I since the private sector assholes behind this coup who amplify voices likelier to ensure their dominance..
But this is stale.

They have already moved far ahead and are scamming up at the front.
Ha

My posts have been garbage. My strength is not being an asshole/bully, but not in a totally stupid way. Nathan Robinson and Yasha Levine are cool.
What does it matter if it is unoriginal if it is the robust kind of unoriginal.

It is always the wrong things. Josh is an idiot and he cannot go around claiming he has feelings. He will be fine.
His obnoxiousness isn’t a state secret. Everyone in the field knows. Yeah he can’t Jacobin Yimby.
This was an outrageous waste and no way.


Yeah no. Josh needn’t try the tired cato betsy hartmann brian keegan bullshit. That guy is an idiot.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=2310961

The dumbest conflict ever and totally serious. Unfortunately Josh doesn’t have a sense of humor. He is this idiotic elite scientist no one could possibly like, but he is probably sane.
An unpleasant man in every way.

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46. Well that is why disproportionate (or appropriately proportionate) blame
Sat May 2, 2026, 07:22 AM
Yesterday

Has to go to the leadership and media. Libertarians think the govt has no role except apparently tax cuts for companies with mediocre if not outright poisonous products with far more nuisance value than utility.

It is unrealistic to expect collective action on something like this that people have been taught to ignore and it seems ever worse.

As McKay points out the one good sign is the most useful type of disaffection people feel which is making them, as it made me years ago, look to the left for answers I was not finding elsewhere.

In fact, I think that is what he was pointing to. I have found Current Affairs a real resource.

When even non-controversial things like vaccines are seen as dangerous by a third of the population over there…

I was surprised that something as generic as vaccination could lead to a culture war.

It is not as bad here. But communication is hard still.

I am a fan of Orwell and I would like to think he would never have curdled into a conservative:
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He was imo more like say Lucien Greaves or even Yasha Levine, Hamilton Nolan, Chris Ketcham, Ed Zitron, Andy Nikiforuk’s
Nobody feels like gushing when someone from the other side makes an astute observation.

But hey maybe vaccines do apply metaphorically finally. A human brain that completely shuts out all views of a type will find reality harder to assess. A dash of the least dishonest and least bound-to-fail-and-spectacularly variant..I doubt these analogies and metaphors.

People who don’t confuse left with stupid.

But he is dead and everyone likes to claim him and an obscenity like Dudesy but with Orwell .


I myself name drop lefties only to indicate that were I ever in a conflict at least please be fair enough to attack the type of left I am. I saw you arguing elsewhere about strawmen and I understand. There is nothing anywhere near as impossible as a defense of a position you don’t even hold wielded by (and this isn’t a comment on anyone on DU..I find infighting fatiguing) the type of person with all sorts of awful views.

(I myself deal with that where these persons who back all sorts of foul things and then tries to slander me should get that I am on the left and if you try to smear me, I will call you a CATO humper. And one of us will materially turn out to be more correct “Josh”. Shut up and sing! I was just having a bit of fun with a type who I bet has way worse political predictions despite being a scientist and probably some sort of awful Democrat. I am not on firm ground with that type in-field or in fairness in any kind of honest debate involving facts rather than truthiness. So a left Trumper like me has to ..lol.. gallows humor eh..
It is not kayfabe because I feel bitter that so many decisions that seem sensible and even decent disproportionately screw over people like me and the effect that has on some of the nicer people with any resources left is glossed over and billionaires reign supreme. But well I don’t want to payback in kind. I just think “Hey maybe use that brain in less clunky ways”).

There is prof Ryan Williams - an academic scientist who studies algorithms and I don’t know his politics but I would be shocked if he wasn’t just cool, but intelligent enough for things to not be inadvertent torture.
Pettiness that plays so rough.

I am a people person to the extent that I feel at least needless torture should be avoided. A possibly controversial position.

Btw I have absolutely no ties to any of the people I ever cite. It is purely all a thought experiment. I am serious. They shouldn’t be doxxed ..of course humans would get that.
Dammit.
I was looking at this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/george-orwell-snitch-list-reactionary-grass-blacklist-communists-information-research-department-ird-government-celia-kirwan-a8414066.html

Absolute fairness etc are hard to assess. But it is easier with left wing sensibilities to have a clearer idea of what reality is shaped like.

I am not running an entrapment racket of course. But I cannot take more nuisances that suck my life away and the officials in a decent state would stop playing dumb.
The street outside is not one for speeding lessons. I am not a teacher nor a celebrity. I trust that in a Covid like emergency state officials here in India will get the message today instead of behaving like Trumpers in some other country.

Sorry OkItsJustMe. Reality ain’t easy these days.

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47. Communication
Sat May 2, 2026, 07:23 AM
Yesterday

I think that is the point of that article.

I am not sure how much of a Dr.Who’s “Smile” situation we are in. But going by the way people are being treated algorithmically this has been set up not by illuminati etc but an unknown but sufficiently diverse enough group that seems to..

We can all agree that this is covid like. And I am trying to calculate how to save face and make my life easier going forward where alright fine. You win.
You know making people grovel is not a very good look.

Besides “winning” in this asinine hellscape isn’t exactly a testament to your brilliance and I know how honest conservatives think. Or perhaps I know how the honest part of the conservative mind works. But the politics are always insane when

I paid either 25-35 k to an EECS Dept and got no guidance at all. You are in the red not me: Not you OkItsMe. You are cool.
As humans we have predictions up to a point.

I can’t tell how much these guys believe their ai bs. Adam Becker who unlike me would

You can’t have a tv show or an entrapment racket. I would not bully because I am not a bully and your level of craziness is unclear to me.

I already know the answer you see. It may not be universal and it was not meant to be. It was only meant to make my life less annoying with employment that is secure. But I didn’t choose stem because I thought stem is superior.

I am not wildly original. But I am not a parrot or this somewhat lame person who when things change suddenly sees opportunity than for non paranoid reasons retains a memory of how difficult life is.
What makes science so cool is that. You don’t rely on anyone else to feel that things can make sense.

I would take old people over this kind of shit.
These are people who when things change see scams not
There were many things that did not work. But there were things that work and they worked because they had a certain robustness to them.

But bullying and preaching never work. One upmanshio doesn’t.
Which brings me to the conclusion wnich is that it is time to abort this and stay off my street and home. This is radioactive data.

I am not capable of not taking the left seriously when I know how they think and what they mean and it is not a quid pro quo.
Lots of people have hideous opinions solo. If someone has never joined a mob it is the fault of bots
Even the police state. You don’t yet have torture robots for physical torture.
Worst case I have to be off marijuana. I don’t care about that. Modafinil like Adderall will be harder to do without and it has no tie to this.


I am not cavalier but freeze-fawn-flight are over and I think we view fight differently.
The reason Aziz Huq made sense is he, Like scientists who are careful in venturing outside science and doctors like Clayton Dalton

You might want to bring back the system of trust. Oh and Fanelli is an idiot and his metrics are stupid. Its okay. I am an insult comic!
That was totally lame.
Who takes Google or Facebook seriously?

It is not anti natalism or pronatalism. Sam Miller MacDonald is cool. This is the worst form of pattern making. Always looking for a group without even bothering with “is there a specific aspect of the group?”
And all of us are okay with people who are only going to be a nuisance to other people.
Maga are nuisances primarily to americans. I left the US when the technofascists did to me an early version of what Musk did To those federal workers.
Why would I care if Maga are a strain on people funded by Zuckerberg’s moll or Clare Wu? Model immigrants! I am not saying banging Zuckerberg isnt hard and unpleasant work.
You lie too much and its useless to attack me from the left except with the kind of people who..
I don’t virtue signal online since first do no harm.

I am in India and these brainless creeps using my street are all idiots.
Breaking my ear drums so you get attention is not going to look good.
Why don’t you beat thd americans at least now in your stupid games by removing this location.

You are welcome to brag and star in movies as long as our lives remain parallel going forward and I cannot not file essential complaints but I keep it minimal because the point is to not be nuisance to me in the future.
You seem often to want to be liked when you are not a zealot and it is not that hard to be liked: 1) it is about all of us but yhe Putnam thing (and hey! No ragging from the left. You havd no idea the idiocy i deal with. Let me ffw it. We would agree if you dont consider earth a giant garbage bin or at least not only that) ; 2) theft and destruction only work for billionaires anf probably not even them in the long run. It makes me tired to think that is what this is all about.
You and I in endless hell for some perverts and people who barely see other people as real.

Sorry OkItsMe. Its a rhetorical exercise in “hell or not” from my side. My conclusion so far is hell, ..this is why I avoid humans outside DU after I fell out with the scientific community in the US. We are still cool as far as outright conflict goes. But my main mentor/last’s wife aside there is too much bitterness from my side to hide sometimes.

I mean I get the general sophistry, but the insistence that every new population must repeat the mistakes of earlier ones to enrich oligarchs or that only narratives that are explicitly or tacitly anti earth and descartian is one I do not follow.

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48. Three not 2 rants OkitsjustMe
Sat May 2, 2026, 07:25 AM
Yesterday

I saw something years ago that scrambled my brain badly. That’s an overt metaphor. As far as I know, you don’t need much more than being thrown into an arena filled with all sorts of humans without much more than self-awareness and common sense..

Humans are dishonest in arguments. I see people who are heavy handed and nails on chalkboard about how they talk about science and about education and about politics. At elite universities you a mix of a hybrid of all and clearly the asshole phenotype makes cavalier decisions they can later try to shill as prison reform etc wot billionaire backing.

The left isn’t going to go “lock him up!” That doesn’t mean that non blackmail type demands can be permanently avoided. Abort this and go annoy someone else is the solution.
We will chat about it later.
Good luck and goodbye.

Not you OkItsMe. Them. Not in the mood.
I have to go work on my field. I am filing complaints later, but not in the dumbest or most callous way possible. More rants have spilt out than I intended because unlike Maga I can see as Chris Ketcham or Yasha Levine or Sam Miller Macdonald or Nathan Robinson or Alex Skopic would the sheer idiocy of a subset of the elite. I prefer people at small liberal arts colleges.
And its okay and its cool. Well okay that doesn’t sound at all cool, but don’t try to police me using a combination of bullshit, useless guilt (none of these are my behaviors. Doing what I can workwise and donating/voting and getting high are mine and apparently yelling at troglodytes). And don’t bring in your girlbosses calculating that “it won’t be sexual harassment with a female chaperone”. I can read your stupid and tacky subconscious mind and I am not a blackmailer or child.

It is just that I have seen your forays in education and they usually make people want to leave science and your forays into the left will drive people right. That’s a bet. Not every person is the few idiot elites you meet. But that still doesn’t mean
A collection of meagre insights after 15 years but the main one is someone I heard in 2012.

When everything changes do you just go along scamming thinking that China, India, disease..something will allow more scamming because you take all of society hostage.
How do you think far more beaten down populations ever got any rights.
I get the sort of armed standoff but the people i talk to are civilized or innocuous and confused.
These armies of flying monkeys you are directing here are going to face harassment charges in India for what has happened.

If it continues I will inadvertently be entrapping them and thats unfair as this same type of brainless person in the US has guns. These brainiacs have not even a left wing or sensible narrative and I am not fool enough to be taken in by what looks like a Bollywood movie or a Mollywood or Tollywood one that shoukd result in charged againsy all involved once a Hemant Kappana or Tejas Thackeray can be located.

Don’t dox my friends in the US please.

You have shown that you are incapable of sense and decency. Neither my friends nor I are fools.
I wish you well, but if someone goes to prison it should be people in these crews not me or my actual friends and going on removing posts as kooky won’t change that.

Just sending communiques to the Indian and American sides. Go Goop elsewhere.
I have changed. I used to be what Americans refer to as a “wuss”.
I get the gravitas. But it is not flatland. I can only be clear about people who dont get that this is not a diplomacy game, reality show.

These guys like Trump are less crazy than they seem. I think it is a mistake of the left to use guerilla warfare etc. I am a woman. I am not a princess, but I like working systems.
This looks like a disaster. I have not been ill but I have been frustrated because I don’t want to hear it. These are not people like Dr Fauci whom 2/3 of the population respect.
Well not any josh. That’s just a hell - okay now this guy will ruin other aspects of life. Maybe there would be less sloppy work and deceit if more people were like Rob Phillips ans not obnoxious paranoid types who also givs a blank check to those tech creeps.
Those guys were always idiots. I am Indian. I know the type. And now you use Tucker Carlson and Ron DeSantis to torment the few environmentalists.
You have three ideas in your head frenemy.

And nuclear families with some people like me are not like teaching girls to code and other obscenities. The girls’ parents can bloody well pay higher taxes by not amplifying Jacobin Yimbies.
Gtfo my space. I lost the one person who meant most to me and to this day this trash has not been aborted.
Quit digging sherlock. You won’t like what you find. It would be a sting I didn’t plan.

As for the right, they are even stupider. Quit while you are behind where I am concerned and go annoy just about anyone else.
As for the Vardees it is up to Prof Ryan Williams or Prof Lecun or DAIR/Bender (if they would help these Darwin Awards candidates out please, because I won’t).
It took 14 years to come right back to a conclusion I came to in Oct 2011 that it looks like a bad idea and alwasy ddi.
Ffs let the dense fog around your empty heads

Thank goodness for Yasha Levine. He doesn’t bully. Nor do I. But I cannot afflrd this snd every day this malicious stuff continues without the authorities here doing the bare minimum and shutting thjs kff
And look one unpmanship doesn’t work out ever.
In the end the people I am in conflict with will alwasy “win” individually. I just wish…
But I am a fatalist. It is why I don’t have a kid.
I don’t see a sane future for a transactional species.
It is not bleeding heart animal rights or Deep green to think maybe burning animals alive is a sign of a sociopathivally stupid species whose complete lack of even basic decency with species that are intelligent but have no legal protections
Is that the same as saying go vegan? No.
Don’t do things to impress people. And recognize that the better things are a saner but with some depth.
This is that bizarro jerry crowd. This way, that way.
Hell Tsssst made a better point.
Just always what you can get away with.

There is nothint easyz But it can still be essier than thjs. Stop bursting my eardrums.
Shut this street abd space off
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I have to go focus on myself 😇..fucking morons
Oh hi OkItsMe. I hate Three BodyProblem.
Cryptography makes sense.
And a little bit kf space is bettee than a lot of time
And above all Warren Hern gets it. When women are not free no one is. Abort this.


I finally see the metaphoric vaccine aspect but keep it simple stupid. How do humans think.
I get angry all over again when I think of this.
It is not chimp war.
Imagine the signature obnoxious of a type of person very different from someone cool like Dr Fauci or some decent female scientists at small liberal arts colleges but some total blockheads and this Musk type - with one side extending their obnoxiousness into areas they are unfit for while staying far away war zones or neighbourhoods the police target or climate change hotspots like this one. And on the other side Musk’s bogus hardcore.
There are two kinds of left- the Nathan Robinson/Yasha Levine/Chris Ketcham left and the Ben Wray Jacobin type and based on the callousness and obnoxiousness most of the non-sleazy parts of say Stanford are in the latter. But they are not woke. I am woke. I just don’t advertise it till a real danger like Stanford trying to be woke which would break the fabric of reality.
I am only partially joking.
The left is stressed etc. Those guys are always obnoxious. It would take a commitment to science or woke that merely ugly people for Stanford or EECS cannot erase to stay on the left when it is sold in ways so obnoxious..
They are bullies. Gerontocraxy? Reduce the number of votes old people have?
They are never going to stop trying to disenfranchise people. That’s what JD Vance said about the childfree.

And there is a polycrisis because out there are all those guys who want to throw people from helicopters.
I was out of it.
It would be like those guys in Smile who wake up and want to use guns.

A lot of people feel screwed over. I understand that and I also understand you cannot deescalate by treating people like idiots and there is 8 billion people and with more crazy worldviews than one can I
it is cornucopia of bad ideas.
Humans in the end in this dog eat dog world are out for themselves at least at the barest level/
And I am ending this and moving on with my life secure in the knowledge that I will throw Josh and his parrot ..at least it’s a headsup,
No take Julia!
No take Josh! I don’t know him at all but he should be able to handle it that this isn’t going to work.

Maybe quit with the wet markets Josh. It would not be bullying because he is really obnoxious and wouldn’t be a straw man because he is really obnoxious and humorless. But he is not weak. And he won’t do anything that makes him vulnerable in any real way. So as a repellant antagonist where it is not kayfabe.
He is a hoarder.
I am so stupid antagonists. He would totally back strip mining the earth and overpopulating it. In a way. He is kind of perfect. It is very grating or uncomfortable where there is human empathy. He can take it. I never liked him and I think the feeling would be mutual for the right reasons not the wrong ones.
And now we are kinda tied in terms of power thanks to that ass Trump and it isn’t a joke or a game. He is a total turd and it is too difficult.
He studies collective behavior and he is far from a lightweight and totally totally obnoxious. I know the kinds of Indians he would know. Also obnoxious but not weak,

As for the mob stuff it is bs. Few humans behave like that in this serious a conflict except idiots who listen to Musk.

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49. Blah
Sat May 2, 2026, 08:07 AM
Yesterday

Just working on something OkItsJustMe.
This may or may not make sense.

I have to switch to this mode now where I accept that some duties may not feel real or material because politics is not taken seriously and there are layers and levels of idiocy here.

Embittering. And for safety, given my history a sort of armed coexistence is the order of the day with lousy institutions. It is hard to explain.
But it is tied to climate change and this is like Covid 2.0.

I worked at a hell once and it was very banality of evil. As is everything.

I don’t enjoy socializing. So I am trying to view it this way so it goes back to being like work.
I picked an antagonist - a punching bag who is strong enough to take it, not stupid and unlikely to have any feelings I care about and most importantly neither pliable nor susceptible to flattery.
I used to think he was out of my league as an antagonist. I realize with grim amusement that I no longer feel that way and I wouldn’t hit below the belt. But his signature obnoxiousness on the one hand keeps it real. Anyway it is not a popularity contest and he can bloody well clean up as someone benefiting from this chaotic world and at least as responsible as anyone.
He is not cool like Dr. Fauci so there is no awkward human compunction.

It is a scientist.

But importantly a person one can safely fight to death with in an imaginary/metaphoric playhouse without it being a joke.
I thought about something I saw you arguing with another DUer about. I am not getting into all that. I stay out of fights inside the community. Too fatiguing.
But this guy could claim it is a straw man.

But it isn’t. These are all institutions he has benefitted from which have been a huge nuisance to me. And he has to buy into all this bs way more than me and to that extent it is his fault. He is not stupid or lightweight so it is easier. And he is an asshole so that works. And he can fend for himself

This war against everyone is exhausting. He is easy to imbue with every quality I dislike in a human being while not being scarily stupid.

I dislike stepping on soft ground when clearly this is hell. And this isn’t the time for friendship or human empathy. But I don’t want lectures about time wasting from the kind of guy who drives people away from science and would polarize society further if he stepped outside science.

I don’t mind a fair fight. Don’t throw idiots with an asymmetric advantage at me.

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50. Post 1
Sat May 2, 2026, 11:13 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat May 2, 2026, 11:32 PM - Edit history (4)

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Pwnage after effects

And good job with a menagerie that gets along.
My two girls don’t even get along

I would post pics of the girls but I don’t know if DU automatically removes exif data:

https://tinytoolshub.com/blog/photo-privacy-exif-guide/

Do you know GmG?

I was “pwned” 15 years ago, but from inside and outside the system. Mostly social engineering.

I am reducing my “attack surface” going forward. Since this is a safe community (well as safe as anything is as nothing is impregnable these days) it has been a good one for me to get my post pwned life going.

People talk about pwnage misleadingly online I find. It is a human cognitive error that is exploited by scammers imo.

It is not binary. Pwned or not.

Pwned by a 100 people vs a 1000 vs 10,000 vs 100,000 and so on.

I find the same cognitive glitch in many conversations-environmental, economic.

An example is that “everything on the internet is forever”. No actually it is really hard to find things after they have been deleted. It is not impossible. But it is hard. That is my guess anyway.

There is no way to foolproof or safety proof your life entirely but there are better ways.

I don’t even care that much about the democratic, incorruptible parts of the state. It is the creepier stuff out there that worries me.

I even sent my details to EarlG as I trust this community. But the net as a whole is dicey.
I worry more about Russian ransomware than influence. Worries of ransomware have pwned me way more than any other influence.

It is not so much that I have anything to hide as that I think hiding is more normal. One talks to friends or engages with communities like these. I wouldn’t go to a shady site and commune with people..lol

I thought of deleting this post, but DU has some teachers so I will leave it.
The worst part of being pwned is the difficulty of learning to trust humans again online and more rarely offline. Things are way easier to assess offline except when the net bleeds into the real world which is creepy. You struggle with being neither overly confiding/unfiltered nor overly paranoid/cagey. It can sound like some kind of issue when it is merely the after effect of pwnage.

It is harder on introverts and loners. I never really called myself an introvert before. It is fairly rare to admit to it .

But DU has helped to socialize me back to normal.

So yeah..I have a friction filled relationship with computers since then. Never really thought about them much before.

And with all the safety being thrown away ..

It is kinda hideous but I was listening to this obnoxious noise polluter on my street. There are some jerks here in India and it is outrageous. There is a subset here that tries to pass off harassment (as the internet bleeds into real life) as white or grey hatting. I blame our govt for having done nothing and with Musk and the Doge jerks this culture is likely to spread. East or West with minor superficial differences I find that in the end scrape off trivial surface differences and it is the similar bullying types.

I have become an autodidact in it by now..lol. It has improved my people sense. And downstream my communication skills hopefully. Those are a work in progress. Still have a residual tendency to ruminate openly .
But I should stop that because it is also a trait induced by social engineering and not normal..
It’s been wild.

I think with exasperation that it makes me sound like a bot or a bad actor rather than a normal person annoyed by what the digital world has turned into.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on and yes she is regal.
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The people were generally pretty nice. I have never had a problem with the subset of Maga voters I have met superficially.

I have met similar people here in India. In a way Maga are closer to a lot of people the world over re saying not pc things and so on. But sometimes it is not ill intentioned. I have never been uptight that way where no offense is intended.


But, if I have never viewed it condescendingly, I view it the same way I view specialized instrumentation. You need to be trained on it and the people Maga vote for are vile and would have no issue manipulating and using Maga the way I see the Darwin Awards candidates on my own street manipulated into idiotically flooding a street they should avoid. They have damaged my ear drums too often for me to now have any compunction left for them.

Conservatives have too much in group cohesion and they move en masse whereas with lefties it is like herding cats.

It can be more complicated than race, gender and class. Otoh it can be all about that. Figuring out which parts of this complicated hairball that is society are working ways most alarming overall and how to communicate that in a time sensitive way but while reaching the most people is the bind.

I think most people are okay with the stragglers in the group when they are far away. I am sick of the idiots on my street here in India. Maga are over there and making life hell for among other people a small subset of dem voters I tend to dislike and so I don’t care ( in those few instances - anyone who attacks Paul Ehrlich can suck up Maga imo ). The anti-Green left of centre Cato-Romney types who made life so hellish for me I had to uproot overnight and leave. They don’t really like environmentalists and will use any excuse to harass and smear us imo.
It was the right call and I am much happier today than had I somehow stuck around throwing my pride to the winds. I couldn’t have anyway. Work or social- an impossible task for a loner.

Maga never ideologically forced me out of spaces I would at least have liked a decent notice to vacate. That was all democrats of the type I avoid - technocratic bullies. Unpleasant people - they behave irl the way is common only online. But I don’t want to go and tell some sort of Maga sleuth . Lame.

I didn’t take it personally as these cliques and gossip types are cracked. They are closer to Maga in their herd like behaviors.

So I am more tolerant for Maga than of those idiots. Otoh my few friends and colleagues are also there and if Maga were harassing them that would be vile.

Life is complicated. My sense of identity is mostly based in environmental issues and the right has outright not given a shit forever and the left has a lot of that too and I was used to pretending to take it as casually as one should at normal levels. It was different to now deeply reinvent oneself as this insipid douchebag who thinks all of earth should be a giant theme park/toilet/garbage bin/parking lot to fit in ..heh. A type of camouflage that gets so ingrained it feels like a shock if people actually genuinely give a shit about earth.
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Most people I met who are probably Maga adjacent were quite nice at a superficial level.
I had real issues in Si Valley though.

Took me a while to return to normal and now I am more actively rewiring what used to be autopilot thought about the world. What used to be intuitive about policies got corrupted by confusing experiences as people are always pretty wacky.

I am from a Podunk town in the global south so I get that without malice people can be exasperating. Though my patience is pretty strained as far as the local Darwin Awards candidates go as it is deliberate provocation not mere awkwardness. That’s where it is getting dangerous. Jan 6 and the stuff I am seeing is not normal annoying behavior.

It is easier to destroy it when you understand it and can distinguish awkwardness from malice with a pretense of “I didn’t understand what I was doing!”. That Rick Rude’s Calves guy understood Vance. Sesame Street’s “one of these things is not like the other”.

Strange times these..

I deleted a post since I am experimenting with my writing and communication style .

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