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Richard D

(9,696 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 02:46 PM Apr 15

A dear friend of mine got ill, and was hospitalized in "apartheid" Israel . . .

. . . here is her story:

I live in Israel and I was hospitalized. Here’s how things went:

I called the medical center. A guy with a Jewish name and an Israeli accent answered. Heard what I had to say, urged me to stay on the line while he’s transferring me to a nurse. A female with an Arabic accent answered and made sure I know I’m not alone and that she is sending an ambulance my way.

The ambulance team arrived, hugging me with their care. On the way, we suddenly stopped and two of them ran out of the ambulance. I prayed it wasn’t another terrorist attack they rushed to and thankfully it wasn’t. An elderly man passed out on the boardwalk. One of the guys stayed with him and we continued on our way to the hospital, where a bunch of people with all kinds of accents spoke to me, deciding where to send me next.

At the ER, a nurse wearing a hijab took care of me. She wasn’t the smiling type, but I got her to laugh a few times while also slightly fainting occasionally, her helping me back to my feet and walking hand in hand with me to my bed. Then, after being checked by a very handsome doctor, who wasn’t a smiling type either, with whom I nearly fainted as well and not due to his handsomeness, I was brought to my new room by an Ethiopian Jewish, religious male.

We spoke about the upcoming holiday and he said he wished his kids wanted to celebrate at his place, rather than forcing him to go to their place. Seeing how he had no say on the matter, he gave in, while holding onto some opinions (with a chuckle).

A variety of backgrounds - Jewish, Arab, Christian - healthcare professionals took care of me and other patients. My room neighbor, whom a second prior, I greeted with a fainting “hello”, immediately pointed to her cabinet and demanded I take all the cookies I wanted that she had stashed there.

Next night, the celebratory dinner table, with the most amount of pale faces I’ve seen on such occasion, Hebrew, Arabic, Russian and more were spoken.

Usually on Passover we say, “they tried to kill us, didn’t succeed, now let’s eat”. This would be ever so more fitting at this table if only we had the energy to go through the Haggadah.

We all wished each other to have a good meal and I gave my yoghurt to the visiting granddaughter of a woman sitting in front of me, in her pj’s, like the rest of us. She mainly spoke Arabic. There was warmth and friendliness among us all.

When leaving the hospital, I dragged my feet to the pharmacy, where I was met with a big smile and an “are you ok, you’re leaning on the wall!” - a hijab wearing pharmacist helped me get my sh*t together while, in my state I had no clue as to.. anything. She then urged me to “go sit there and eat something and drink something before you head home!”

In the lobby of the hospital/pharmacy/food court, there were religious Jewish families, non-religious Jewish families, Israeli religious Muslim families, Israeli non-religious Muslim families. And others. Plenty others.

In short - those who want to co-exist, do.

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Walleye

(39,846 posts)
2. That is a wonderful story. I'm glad you are OK. That's the way it should be.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 02:53 PM
Apr 15

And I believe that’s still the way it is in many parts of this country. Say if you want to a hospital in Brooklyn, New York, you might experience the same kind of thing. But of course you would get a big bill when you got home. I always use Brooklyn as an example because I’ve been there before plenty of times and I noticed how many people from different cultures get along so well. Classes of little children walking through the streets single file, churches, etc.. i’m sure the rest of the world thinks we’re at each other‘s throats all the time, because of the way the news has been going. It’s not true.

tonkatoy8888

(81 posts)
3. Sweet story
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:01 PM
Apr 15

but my takeaway is that a state wracked with religious and racial tensions can provide first-world medical care and the US can't or won't.

Hard to wrap my head around the fact that my government hates me more than the Israeli government hates the Palestinians.

question everything

(50,148 posts)
4. Repost from GD What my stupid accident in Tel Aviv reveals about truly world class healthcare - Isabel Oakeshott
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 15
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220226066

When helicopters hover above central Tel Aviv, occasionally it signals something joyful: the release of hostages. After macabre handovers by masked militia, Israeli captives freed by Hamas are airlifted to the city, where they receive specialist care at some of the best hospitals on Earth. The tale of how I too ended up in one of these medical facilities does not, unfortunately, feature any war reporting heroics. Embarrassingly, it involves falling off an e-scooter – a nasty accident that nonetheless provided a taste of world-leading healthcare.

(snip)

Staring at my waxen face in the bathroom mirror, I tried to figure out whether my pupils were dilated, a potential red flag with head injuries. I could not stop thinking about poor Natasha Richardson, the actress who tragically died after an apparently minor fall on an easy ski slope. For several hours after hitting her head, she had seemed OK. In reality, she had suffered a fatal brain injury. What if I too was having what doctors call a “lucid interval” – a brief period without any symptoms of a life threatening head injury? How could I risk falling asleep? And so it was that I found myself at the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center (Ichilov), a state-of-the-art facility designed to deal with casualties of war. When air raid sirens sound and locals take cover in bomb shelters, doctors and nurses at this hospital continue their work underground. It is all set up for electricity blackouts and flying missiles.

(snip)

I had come to Israel to learn more about war, and how it might eventually end. The plan was to talk to the IDF, listen to intelligence sources and hear the latest from the defence industry. .. Happily, I was still able to do all this, but the accident shifted my focus onto Israel’s widely admired healthcare system. The contrast with the NHS was too glaring to ignore.

(snip)

Based on mandatory health insurance with not-for-profit providers, Israel’s health system is means-tested but universal, ensuring even the poorest citizens are covered. By both efficiency and outcome, it ranks among the best in the world – as I can attest. By 10pm I was back in my hotel room, shocked, sore and feeling very stupid. I had been at the hospital for less than two hours. (In the UK, some 5,700 patients a day are forced to wait more than 12 hours to be seen at A&E).

The Sourasky uses all manner of time- and life-saving devices and AI wizardry to get patients through and out fast. For example, those who can are encouraged to speed up the initial admissions process by using simple self-service devices to provide their vital signs. Robots buzz around providing directions and other helpful information. In quiet moments, staff amuse themselves testing the AI: seeing if it understands slang (it does) and can tell the difference between male and female voices (it can).


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2025/04/08/what-my-stupid-e-bike-accident-reveals-about-healthcare/

JMCKUSICK

(2,100 posts)
5. Wow, thank you Richard D
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 04:29 PM
Apr 15

What a powerful, real life example of joyful coexistence. All humans should exist this way with one another. In many cases, it is religious extremism that gets in the way.
How inspiringly moving.

guyfromla

(51 posts)
8. They have lived for 4000 years - TOGETHER
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 04:46 PM
Apr 15

They have lived for 4000 years - only to be separated after the Crusades for a brief period. Caliph Umar brought the Jews back to Jerusalem in 638 AD. Now I hope we can get the war on innocent civilians stopped and eternal peace established. Trust me when I say this - if permanent peace exists, there won't be any Hamas as they will have NO Oxygen to thrive.

ShazamIam

(2,843 posts)
10. That is a beautiful post, those who don't want to co-exist get all the attention, so I thank you for the post. nt
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 05:24 PM
Apr 15

lucca18

(1,389 posts)
11. Thank You❤️
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 05:36 PM
Apr 15

We are all in this (called life), together.
Respect, kindness and love.

Thanks for posting.

Richard D

(9,696 posts)
13. That's why I put apartheid in quotes.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 08:50 PM
Apr 15

It's one of the least apartheid countries on the planet, as this and many other such stories show.

DavidDvorkin

(20,148 posts)
14. Apartheid (should be capitalized) was a specific system
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 09:17 PM
Apr 15

With very detailed and extensive, harsh, firm rules. People use it as a vague synonym for racial discrimination.

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