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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:50 PM Wednesday

DU fiction writers/readers: Explain when best to introduce a McGuffin v a Deus ex machina.

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DU fiction writers/readers: Explain when best to introduce a McGuffin v a Deus ex machina. (Original Post) brush Wednesday OP
Wouldn't McG have to come early in the plot? Irish_Dem Wednesday #1
Ok, so the McG has to come first, no DEM early? brush Wednesday #2
DEM is the resolution of the plot conflict? Irish_Dem Wednesday #3
Yes, DEM seems to suggest writer's inability to resolve the ending. brush Wednesday #4
So uses a gimmick. Irish_Dem Wednesday #5
She pointed at the McGuffin and said "Look, there's a McGuffin." Orrex Wednesday #6
In other words, ditch the obvious gimmicks. brush Thursday #9
Well, I was mostly making fun of my own writing Orrex Thursday #10
I think you should write the story you want to write. Irish_Dem Thursday #7
Good advice. Thank you. brush Thursday #8

Irish_Dem

(74,402 posts)
1. Wouldn't McG have to come early in the plot?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:54 PM
Wednesday

It serves no other purpose but gives meaning and direction to the plot.

And the DEM comes later to add interest and a twist.

Irish_Dem

(74,402 posts)
3. DEM is the resolution of the plot conflict?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:04 PM
Wednesday

So it would come later.

Be careful with it.
Some say it is lazy writing.

Orrex

(65,995 posts)
6. She pointed at the McGuffin and said "Look, there's a McGuffin."
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:32 PM
Wednesday

"Biggest McGuffin I ever saw," he agreed.

Then they fired up their Deus ex Machina and resolved the entire plot.

Orrex

(65,995 posts)
10. Well, I was mostly making fun of my own writing
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:07 PM
Thursday

Even an obvious gimmick used well is a worthy plot device, so don’t give my admonition more weight than it merits.

Irish_Dem

(74,402 posts)
7. I think you should write the story you want to write.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:40 AM
Thursday

If you are creative, and a good writer, write the story in your head, the way you want to write it.
Don't get bogged down in technique or what other people think you should do.

You are the artist, create your story.

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