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Related: About this forumI've always gotten along with my friends' boyfriends and husbands
They were nice men and I genuinely liked them. My best friend's current boyfriend is the scum of the earth and that's the nicest thing I can say about him. He's a career criminal who has been in and out of prison his entire adult life. He's currently out on bond, which she paid for. He went from a jail cell to a beautiful home where he eats her food, drives her car and the only pot he has to piss in is hers. I met him once and that was one time too many. If I saw him walking toward me, I'd cross the street to avoid passing him on the sidewalk. That's how scary-looking he is. I have no idea what she sees in him. She's always been intelligent, independent and responsible; now she's none of those things. I think he tries to control every aspect of her life and I just don't get it. Did I mention he's also 15 years younger than she is? I think he's using her and taking advantage of her generous nature and this whole thing is not going to end well.
I'm not the only one who feels this way. Other people are worried about her too. I tried to talk to her about it once, but she just dismissed everything I had to say. I haven't brought it up again because I don't want to be a nag about it. I'm also afraid it would push her closer to him.
She lives about three hours away from me. Since he's been around, she doesn't communicate with me as much as she used to. The only time we ever talk on the phone is if she's in the car coming down here to visit her family. Her texts are few and far between (although I text her all the time) and it's usually late at night when I assume he's sleeping.
In the beginning, I was worried and scared for her. I still feel that way for the most part but a few times lately I've been really mad about it. I mean, seriously pissed. It's like she doesn't care about anybody or anything else in the world except him. We have 60 years behind us. 6-0. That's a lifetime and now I feel like I don't even know her. I'm also afraid I'm losing her and there's nothing I can do about it. It's breaking my heart.
usonian
(26,470 posts)I don't have that problem.
So I won't say more, especially if money is involved, and when isn't it?
NJCher
(43,453 posts)With a friend over a somewhat similar situation. Nowhere near as bad as this. My friend is super talented, creative, intelligent, and witty. She would choose ordinary men and I couldnt stand it.
live love laugh
(16,460 posts)MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)l feel like all I can do is wait for her to come to her senses, which I don't see happening any time soon.
Skittles
(172,702 posts)to better assess, thanks
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)Her son's father was in jail (that's a whole other story) and for some reason, he asked this guy to be some kind of liaison between him and my friend. So she started talking to this loser on the phone and the next thing I know, she's bailing him out of jail and moving him into her house! And if that doesn't beat all, I don't know what does!
Yikes!
Skittles
(172,702 posts)not a lot of rational thinking going on, for sure
how old is her son, and does he know about this?
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)She started seeing the felon in 2024 and her son had met him. I dont know if he knew the story of how they met, though. His father may have told him; I don't know. She doesn't tell me anything anymore. It's like pulling teeth to get her to respond to a text and she hardly says anything when she does.
Skittles
(172,702 posts)sounds like her life has become a bit of a trainwreck
all I can say is don't give up on her, even if it's just the occasional text.......I feel for you, very difficult situation indeed
Figarosmom
(13,116 posts)She's enamored with.
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)because I can't see anything even remotely attractive about him. I used to see men that looked like him in store parking lots and wonder what woman on God's green earth would be attracted to someone like that. I now have my answer.
mopinko
(73,881 posts)its intoxicating. let him get away w crap i never wd have when i was younger. (nothing terrible.)
it didnt last long, but im lonelier now than i was b4 him.
its easy to feel like youre never gonna find love again when youre in your 70s. esp if health shit leaves u isolated.
Haggard Celine
(17,908 posts)It hurts to lose a friend, especially when you get older and friends start dying on you. i would hate to be in your situation, because I would probably tell her off for being stupid, and that would probably make her stop talking to you altogether. In some ways, though, it would probably make you feel better to say what you really feel. Tell her she'd better watch her money, because that's what that piece of shit is after.
BurnDoubt
(1,871 posts)And make sure she knows how you feel about HER, and that youre here when she needs you. Talking about HIM is sure to alienate her.
Leave the door open for her and let her know shes always Welcome.
Easy for me to say, but that seems to be the only way to navigate this.
Youre a good friend and thats what she needs to know.
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)and I never brought him up again. I've tried to make it clear to her that what I say to her is out of love and concern for her. I've told her more than once that I'm always here for her no matter what. But I may as well stand in front of a mirror and say it to myself. No matter what I say or how I try to word it, she takes offense and gets defensive.
BurnDoubt
(1,871 posts)Youll still be there.
Im hoping for you both that it happens.
Im sending the whole package: Faith, Hope, and Love.
And a Hug for a great Friend.
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)You're very kind. We're actually fighting right now. We've rarely fought over the years. The last big fight we got into was 10 years ago and it was about tipping the maid at a hotel. We were leaving and I asked her for the key so I could go back to the room and leave a tip and she yelled at me that you don't tip for only one night. Well, things got heated and there were some old ladies watching and listening and I ended up screaming "you're all a bunch of f-ing cheapskates" and then I stormed out and cried all the way home.
But I did tip the maid.
calimary
(90,654 posts)If nothing else, you can ALWAYS post about it here, and/or try to work through it here. Im rock-solid certain youll find MANY fellow travelers who can sympathize AND empathize with you. Theres A LOT of hard-won wisdom available here from which you can learn and take comfort. And its always freely given, with love and care.
Heres a hug! ((((( * )))))
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)Right now, there have been texts flying back and forth because no matter what I say or how kindly I try to say it, she takes offense to it. I dont know what to say. I don't want to say anything that I'll regret because right now I'm seriously pissed off about the whole situation and it's taking every ounce of self-control I have within me not to scream at her "WTF is wrong with you?"
rampartd
(4,952 posts)my first wife left me for a harley.
One of the most disturbing examples is the fan culture surrounding serial killers like Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez who are still beyond all avenues of love and admiration. While their crimes were dreadful, both received fan mail during their trials; the Ramirez, famously known as "The Night Stalker," even married a fan while imprisoned. Social media has amplified this phenomenon, where online platforms such as Tumblr and TikTok harbor communities that romanticize serial killers. Such spaces glorify criminals; at times, they have an antihero status.
https://reflections.live/articles/19941/the-dark-appeal-why-serial-killers-fascinate-us-article-by-akanksha-dube-18330-m32pl83l.html
MIButterfly
(3,119 posts)that these criminals get letters from women professing their undying love for them, sending them money, etc. And not just male prisoners, notorious female prisoners get mail from lovelorn men, too.
Back in my teens, I Ioved writing letters and I loved receiving them even more. This was way before the internet. I had over a dozen pen pals. When I moved back to Michigan from Tennessee in my late 20s, I wanted to get back into writing letters again. In those days, Rolling Stone had addresses of prisoners in the back of each issue and I thought who better to write to than these guys who have nothing better to do than write letters? So I wrote to a few of them and every single one of them wrote back that they couldn't wait to meet me when they got out and I was HORRIFIED! Holy shit. I never wanted to meet any of them; I just wanted to write letters! So I stopped doing that immediately and kicked myself for being so stupid.
rampartd
(4,952 posts)And she is plenty bruised up and slapped around.
BurnDoubt
(1,871 posts)If you can read this . The Bitch Fell Off.
rampartd
(4,952 posts)somewhere in the genealogy/dna of every european american there are hordes of barbarian rapists.
BurnDoubt
(1,871 posts)Im on holiday in the UK, visiting the sites of my forebears rape and pillaging.
And musing over the Panic over polluting our bloodlines.
Like Tiedrich sez: The Stupid
It Burns