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BigmanPigman

(55,171 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:31 PM Oct 2025

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post about "white men"

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I know that facts show white men are a real problem these days and they have been. White men are responsible for 99% of gun deaths. White men control all branches of our govt. White men control most religions. History shows that this has been an issue for thousands of years.

So, what do we do?!?

Can our future as a civilization possibly be changed at this point?

I have only questions but would like some realistic answers.
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I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post about "white men" (Original Post) BigmanPigman Oct 2025 OP
"When God Was a Woman"- Merlin Stone hlthe2b Oct 2025 #1
When the men thought leftieNanner Oct 2025 #3
Saw my copy the other day and thought.... hmmmm need to read that again. Attilatheblond Oct 2025 #5
You would not believe how much copies are going for at used book stores and ebay.... hlthe2b Oct 2025 #6
My library has N ecopy! Now on hold. SheltieLover Oct 2025 #14
Thx for sharing! SheltieLover Oct 2025 #13
No Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #2
if the demographics were different it would be other kinds of men nt msongs Oct 2025 #4
Spot on. It's cultural not "racial". multigraincracker Oct 2025 #9
Men everywhere have issues. 58Sunliner Oct 2025 #7
It's more a question of power than color, and I don't doubt that soldierant Oct 2025 #10
In many countries, men have more power and women have fewer rights and less status. 58Sunliner Oct 2025 #15
Exactly. soldierant Oct 2025 #16
Some white men are the problem, but please don't include me & half DU. Wrong that W.M. cause 99% of gun deaths. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #8
I see a great deal of deflection Keepthesoulalive Oct 2025 #11
A sociologist friend contends that when rethugs outsourced factory jobs needed for guys to take care of their families, SheltieLover Oct 2025 #12
Yet, before that reduction in factory jobs, white men practiced overt discrimination SharonAnn Oct 2025 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2025 #18

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
1. "When God Was a Woman"- Merlin Stone
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:40 PM
Oct 2025

There were major matriarchal societies, so not all were white male-controlled over thousands of years--and that includes religion/religious practices.

I read it many, many years ago. I'd say it is time to go back and see if today's issues might have some hint of an ancient answer. At least we can better understand what happened long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_God_Was_a_Woman

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
3. When the men thought
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:57 PM
Oct 2025

Women were magical because they could bear children, we had power. Once they figured out that they were part of the equation, then they changed the game.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
5. Saw my copy the other day and thought.... hmmmm need to read that again.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:28 PM
Oct 2025

Usually don't notice my old books as I dust, but something tapped my psyche and said "It's here! Take another look" this time.

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
6. You would not believe how much copies are going for at used book stores and ebay....
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:31 PM
Oct 2025

I guess it has been out of print for a while?

I found it interesting that there was a WIKI page devoted to it (linked above). It was apparently a far more influential book than I had realized.

SheltieLover

(80,486 posts)
13. Thx for sharing!
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:25 AM
Oct 2025

Just put an ecopy on hold at my library!

I recall watching a film in college of an ancient civilization being unearthed by anthropologists & it was at the time said to be the oldest religious artifacts found & clearly depicted a female goddess.

Another great read is "Crossing to Avalon: A Woman's Midlife Quest for the Sacred Feminine" by Jean Shinoda Bolen, MD. She is both a psychiatrist & a Jungian analyst & one of my fav authors of non-fiction work.

Enjoy!

Keepthesoulalive

(2,305 posts)
2. No
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:57 PM
Oct 2025

It’s a god complex combined with selfishness. They do not want to change and American culture coddles them.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
9. Spot on. It's cultural not "racial".
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:47 PM
Oct 2025

According to scientists, there is only one race, the human race There are more genetic differences within the so called races than between them. From grayish pink to darker shades of brown. Those are variations of very few of the human genome. But, they are visual and that seems to be the easiest way to divide groups.
Also it’s the same with gender. Gender involved 72 human genes. It’s more of a curve than an either or.
Of course it’s simpler draw lines than to accept reality. It requires critical thinking,

58Sunliner

(6,331 posts)
7. Men everywhere have issues.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:35 PM
Oct 2025

Rape, war, child abuse, trafficking, murder, sociopathy, mostly men. A higher percentage are white men in this country. I will say I have not compared stats with other countries to see which men by race or nationality, are over- represented in violence by population.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
10. It's more a question of power than color, and I don't doubt that
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 10:25 PM
Oct 2025

wealth is a huge indicator of power, One word: Diddy. (and OJ also comes to mind.)

58Sunliner

(6,331 posts)
15. In many countries, men have more power and women have fewer rights and less status.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:44 AM
Oct 2025

I am reminded of the caste system in India, and the prejudice of color in some SA countries. Also in Australia against the natives, as well as native Indians in the US and Canada.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
8. Some white men are the problem, but please don't include me & half DU. Wrong that W.M. cause 99% of gun deaths.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:44 PM
Oct 2025
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7226a9.htm

That link has gun murders by race of victims. Of all those black deaths by gun, you can't make a case that almost none of them are committed by blacks or without involvement by whites.

There is no reason to sabotage your important point (white male problem) with fake statistics, especially when we (DU) call out any tRump / maga fake statistics.

SheltieLover

(80,486 posts)
12. A sociologist friend contends that when rethugs outsourced factory jobs needed for guys to take care of their families,
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:09 AM
Oct 2025

that caused a lot of these problems.

I recall being a kid & my HS age brother & his friends all bought & paid for brand new very nice cars -- mustangs, camaros, cutlesses, road runners, etc -- working part-time at a burger joint that charged 15-cents for burgers.

This does not address the entire pronlem of caucasian males dominating religion & politics, of course, only the violent criminal aspects.

The Dr. of sociology contends that when rethugs outsourced all the US factory jobs, guys lost their means to support their families without needing a lengthy & pricey college education. And they lost a part of their identities in the process, to have a job to go to & do (typically) "guy stuff" with machines, etc.

As is historically the case with school kids, most females tend to internalize stressors (depression, eating disorders, self-mutilation) & males tend to act out more, misbehaving in more observable ways such as fighting, property damage, etc.

I find it astounding that after the immense problems & pain caused to American families with greedy rethug factory job outsourcing, now kraznov is imposing tariffs on imports & complaining goods are not manufactured in the US! Of course, Kraznov is not giving tax breaks or other incentives to businesses to bring back the factory jobs the rethugs outsourced...

Wth???

Anyway, I absolutely do not condone crime, but how can we as a society restore males' collective sense of self-worth so that they aren't constantly in a state of rage?

One thing is adequate mental healthcare, but they must be willing & insurance needs to cover it!

A very complex problem -- as always -- created in large part by rethugs & their insatiable greed.


SharonAnn

(14,173 posts)
17. Yet, before that reduction in factory jobs, white men practiced overt discrimination
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:47 AM
Oct 2025

Overt discrimination against women and other races was out in the open, culturally accepted, and practiced everywhere in this country to one degree or another.

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