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Source: BBC
Trump's Gaza plan, but lack of detail is its weakness
30 September 2025
Jeremy BowenInternational Editor
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The proposed deal looks a lot like a plan put forward by Joe Biden well over a year ago. Since then there has been massive killing of Palestinian civilians, more destruction in Gaza, and now a famine, while Israeli hostages in Gaza have had to endure months more of agony and captivity.
There were many reports in the Israeli media that the Biden initiative failed because Netanyahu moved the goalposts with a new set of demands - under pressure from the hard right in his cabinet.
Even so, the framework plan is a significant moment. For the first time, Donald Trump is putting pressure on Israel to end the war. Donald Trump has made himself into a leader to whom it is hard to say no. Nobody wants to end up getting the roasting Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky received in the Oval Office back in February. But things can change when leaders leave the White House.
Before Benjamin Netanyahu left Washington DC to go back to Israel his staff filmed him putting over his version of events. One element was the idea of an independent Palestine next to Israel, the two-state solution which the UK and other Western countries have tried to revive by recognising Palestine.
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AloeVera
(3,777 posts)No requirement for Israel to stop bombing hospitals and homes whenever it wants. In fact there are no guarantees for any of the conditions favourable to Palestinians, unlike those for Israel. No timelines for the implementation of the "international force" so the IDF can continue doing what it is doing in the meantime.
The language on the progress to a two-state solution is laughably disingenuous, prompting Netanyahu to brag later that the two-state is not even in the agreement.
There are conditions that Netanyahu knows Hamas has never accepted. No immediate withdrawal and laying down of arms. It's a plan set up to be rejected, one might think.
Does Netanyahu really want this deal? Well, a mere hours after his meeting with Trump in which he supposedly "accepted" the proposal, he stated that he will not only "forcibly resist" a two-state solution (and that Trump agrees with him) but also the withdrawal of IDF forces from Gaza - a main condition for Hamas and laid out in the plan.
Please someone explain how one can "accept" a plan but then turn around and reject the two elements that he KNOWS are the most important for Hamas to accept the deal? He's already sabotaging any deal, as he has done repeatedly and shamelessly.
If by some miracle Hamas accepts, the plan is purposely ambiguous and Netanyahu will use that to his advantage to break it - right after he gets the hostages back - like he did the last ceasefire.
Netanyahu does not want even a kinder, gentler genocide. I'm not sure that Trump does either.