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TexasTowelie

(122,748 posts) Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:21 PM Aug 20

Ukrainians will not accept "land for peace," says former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko - TVP WORLD

Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko praised the unity demonstrated in Washington during Monday’s summit between President Donald Trump, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and top EU leaders. Poroshenko said the meeting was a marked improvement over the "catastrophe" that occurred in the Oval Office in February 2025, emphasizing that Putin had failed to divide the Europeans. He also reaffirmed that the Ukrainian nation would not accept any territorial swaps, even if such an agreement was signed by President Zelenskyy.

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Ukrainians will not accept "land for peace," says former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko - TVP WORLD (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 20 OP

"even if such an agreement was signed by President Zelenskyy." I do not think Zelenskyy riversedge Aug 20 #1

Rudyard Kipling soldierant Aug 20 #2

riversedge

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1. "even if such an agreement was signed by President Zelenskyy." I do not think Zelenskyy

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Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:28 PM

Aug 20

would either. IMHO

soldierant

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2. Rudyard Kipling

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Wed Aug 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

Aug 20

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say:–
"We invaded you last night–we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."
2
And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!
3
It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:–
"Though we know we should defeat you,
we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."
4
And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.
5
It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:–
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"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"

Kipling was no saint, but he did have some common sense. If Neville Chamberlain had only paid attention to this! I'm quite sure Zelenskyy is smart enough to get it. Cash or land - it's all the same - the invader always wants more.

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