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bucolic_frolic

(55,628 posts)
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:13 AM Sunday

The $5 Battery That Never Dies -- Edison Buried This 100 Years Ago




In a barn outside Lancaster County, on a wooden shelf in the corner, there is a small steel box about the size of a lunch pail that has been quietly powering the lights since nineteen forty-eight. Seventy-seven years on the same battery. No replacement. No service call. No bill. A square foot of nickel sheet, twenty-eight gauge, costs about three dollars at any metal supply house. A square foot of iron sheet of the same gauge costs about a dollar fifty. A five-pound jar of food-grade potassium hydroxide flakes — what your grandmother called lye — costs about fifteen dollars at any soap-making supply website and makes electrolyte for ten cells. A glass jar with a rubber stopper, free if you save your pickle jars. And when you combine the four using a chemistry Thomas Alva Edison patented in nineteen oh one and an Amish blacksmith named Amos Fisher quietly improved in nineteen forty-nine, you eliminate the need to ever pay another monthly electric bill — without rewiring your house, without calling a contractor, and without filing for a single permit.

The American battery industry generates over one hundred and twenty billion dollars in annual revenue, and that figure is built entirely on the assumption that you will buy a new battery every eight years for the rest of your life. The lead-acid battery in your pickup truck dies in three to five years. The lithium-ion pack in your phone is landfill in eight. The Edison nickel-iron cell, by contrast, has been documented at the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory's Magnet Academy holding a charge after one hundred and twenty-two years. The chemistry is almost embarrassingly simple — an iron plate, a nickel oxide plate, and a solution of potassium hydroxide. Nothing degrades. Nothing crystallizes permanently. Nothing eats itself alive the way the lead and acid in a car battery does every day. The plates can be discharged completely flat, left sitting empty for ten years, then refilled and they come right back to life.

In nineteen oh nine, Edison filed his definitive patent for the nickel-iron cell — patent number nine hundred and sixty-seven thousand, four hundred and three, on file at the United States Patent Office — and on January fourteenth, nineteen eleven, Scientific American magazine ran a full-page feature calling it the storage battery of the future. By nineteen twelve, Charles Kettering at General Motors had thrown the entire automotive industry behind lead-acid because lead-acid could deliver the cold-cranking burst needed to start a frozen gasoline engine on a January morning in Detroit. The decision made in boardrooms in Detroit and Dayton between nineteen twelve and nineteen fifteen sealed the fate of the nickel-iron battery for an entire century. The Edison Storage Battery Company in West Orange, New Jersey kept the production lines running until nineteen seventy-five anyway, and the cells they shipped in nineteen forty, nineteen fifty, nineteen sixty are still in service today in railroad signaling stations across the American Midwest, in mining operations in northern Ontario, and in remote forest service cabins in the Cascades. A cell manufactured in nineteen forty-six, pulled out of a Burlington Northern signal box in Montana in twenty nineteen, accepted a charge after a single flush of fresh electrolyte and delivered eighty-two percent of its original rated capacity. Buried in page eleven of a small notebook started in nineteen forty-seven by an Amish harness maker named Jacob Stoltzfus in Strasburg, Pennsylvania, there is one ingredient — added by an Amish blacksmith named Amos Fisher to a single railroad cell in the spring of nineteen fifty — that has produced a battery that, as far as anyone can demonstrate, simply does not wear out.

This video shows you the parallel power system any homeowner can build alongside the existing electrical wiring of a house already standing — no rewiring, no contractor, no permits — using two or three nickel-iron cells wired to a hundred-watt solar panel through a basic charge controller, the homemade Edison cell built from sheet metal and a glass pickle jar for under five dollars in materials, and the one ingredient from page eleven of the Stoltzfus notebook that turns a hundred-year battery into a forever battery — starting this weekend, with materials from any metal supply house and any soap-making supply website.

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I'm not sure what to make of this YouTube channel. It's AI narration surely, but it all makes sense.
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rampartd

(4,845 posts)
7. keep me posted
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:21 AM
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i've got sheet steel, need iron i guess, but maybe this jar of nickles ........

hlthe2b

(114,418 posts)
3. Well, my biochemistry is pretty good, but inorganic, not so much. So is this process not flammable?
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:59 AM
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i.e., highly flammable and perhaps potentially explosive? I am not saying it is--simply trying to understand why, if it works, many have not tried it. This is not the kind of thing that would be secret to those with the chemistry knowledge, so there must be a real potential negative to process?

eppur_se_muova

(42,331 posts)
5. See my response below. None of this is 'secret' or 'suppressed' technology. That's all hype for clicks and eyeballs. nt
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:15 AM
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hlthe2b

(114,418 posts)
6. Thanks...
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:21 AM
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I figured it was no big secret... Just a matter of practicalities and need for modifications depending on the setting.

eppur_se_muova

(42,331 posts)
4. As the summary above makes clear, the lead-acid battery is better for high-amperage use. The FeNi batteries cited as
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:12 AM
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still in use after many years are in low-current-demand applications.

These pre-dated the Lead-acid battery, and were made obsolete for automotive use by the Lead-acid battery. NiFe batteries retain a very small niche in safety critical equipment used underground.

Disadvantages of NiFe:

Lower energy capacity and energy-weight ratio {crucial for transportation applications} than Lead-acid. Much lower maximum current drain. High self discharge current (they go flat even without being used in a few weeks).

Advantages:

They last “forever” and are not damaged by short circuit, by being left discharged, by being over-charged (you just top up the electrolyte). The raw materials (Nickel, Iron, caustic Potash) are cheap and less polluting than Lead acid if a spill happens.

I cannot help thinking that the NiFe battery should be looked at again, for large scale storage of solar power. The advantages are all positives for this role, especially the long life. The disadvantages are small for something that is recharged daily and installed in a fixed location that can be as large as it needs to be.

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-such-a-thing-as-a-battery-that-lasts-100-years



One thing to look out for is that the electrolyte is a solution of potassium hydroxide (KOH) which absorbs CO2 from the air, forming the weaker base, potassium carbonate (K2CO3). Sealing the battery, or providing some sort of active filter, is essential. I'm sure it could be worked out for stationary applications, such as grid storage. But it's no "hidden secret", by any means. Anyone who knows battery tech knows about the Edison Cell, as it's been known for over a century. No over-the-top CT hype needed -- and it's misleading.

Also Google "https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=what+is+longest-lived+variety+of+battery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8" to compare all cell types, including some you've never heard of.

msongs

(74,065 posts)
9. one might think if this battery was so great it would be in wide use by now. patents must be expired
Sun May 3, 2026, 02:47 PM
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