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Related: About this forumStarbucks Flogs Its Plastic Cups As "Widely Recyclable", But Only 1-2% Of Polypropylene Is Actually Ever Recycled
Frappuccino lovers, rejoice: Your plastic to-go cups are now widely recyclable.Thats according to an announcement made in February by Starbucks, the waste hauler WM (formerly known as Waste Management), and three recycling groups called The Recycling Partnership, GreenBlue, and Closed Loop Partners. In a press release, they said that more than 60 percent of U.S. households can now recycle cold to-go cups in their curbside recycling bins. This makes the cups eligible for one of GreenBlues special labels featuring the familiar chasing arrows triangle and the words widely recyclable. To-go cups are entering a new era of recyclability, the release said.
However, theres a catch. Just because a product can be collected for recycling doesnt mean it actually gets recycled. To imply otherwise is to conflate two very different numbers: the access rate and the real recycling rate. The former describes the number of people who are told they have access to a recycling program for a given product. The latter the amount of plastic that is ultimately turned into new things is what really matters, from an environmental standpoint. Theres not much evidence to suggest that the recycling rate for plastic cups is above 1 or 2 percent. This is one of those situations where statistics can be very misleading, said Alex Jordan, a plastics researcher at the University of Wisconsin-Stout. They can pull a statistic that would make the public think that all these things are being recycled, but unfortunately even if you clean and dry and put your recycling in the recycling bin and it gets picked up, the overwhelming likelihood is that it ends up in a landfill or being burned for energy generation.
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The manager of one recycling center in California, who asked not to be named, said the cup announcement represents little more than a convenient alignment of interests: It generates good press and revenue for GreenBlue, allows WM to collect more material, and casts Starbucks as eco-friendly without requiring it to move away from single-use plastic. Everyone wants that warm, fuzzy recyclable label, the manager said, adding that they suspected there would be no buyers for polypropylene even if they advertised it widely. Our phone would not ring. Its not something there are a lot of mills out there that are buying.
Februarys announcement is part of a yearslong effort to increase polypropylene collection and recycling. Helming the effort is The Recycling Partnership, or TRP, a nonprofit funded by plastic-producing companies and their lobbying groups, including the American Chemistry Council, Exxon Mobil, and Coca-Cola. It started in 2020, just two years after China stopped accepting the United States plastic waste. At the time, polypropylene had a bit of an image problem. It was the second most common type of plastic in Americans municipal solid waste, but its recycling rate was far below that of other resins, at just 0.6 percent. (Polypropylene containers and packaging had a slightly higher rate of 2.7 percent.) Because cities could no longer ship their mixed plastic waste to China for reprocessing and there werent enough domestic facilities to sell it to, many stopped accepting all but the simplest products: bottles and jugs made of PET or HDPE, labeled with the numbers 1 and 2, respectively.
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https://grist.org/regulation/why-your-widely-recyclable-starbucks-cup-is-still-headed-for-the-landfill/
OC375
(921 posts)Of course we arent recycling. We merely have a profitable recycling industry. Theres a difference. Separating paper from dinner in the trash at home isnt going to fix this BS. Its feel good theater.
IbogaProject
(5,906 posts)Recycling was just a PR move to normalize petroleum derived plastic products.
Envirogal
(318 posts)Recyclers have to collect and sort so much mixed material, which is costly in and of itself, but a high percentage of it is actually trash or wish cycling that people think or hope is recyclable. The plastics industry uses the promise of recycling to tamp down the negative PR they have. But most plastics are not recycled because the MARKETS for recycled content resins is volatile, heavily regulated (as it should be), and undercut by cheap fossil fuel virgin plastic raw material. The packaging producers, part of the gaslighting propaganda peddlers, only focus on slapping the recycling logo on their products, yet THEY DONT TRULY SUPPORT RECYCLING BECAUSE THEY DONT USE RECYCLED CONTENT in their manufacturing. We can collect and sort it, but someone has to buy it from us. That is what these gaslighters refuse to fix.
So they slap that logo on falsely which confuses the consumers who put it in their recycling cart, and then processors like us have to fish all the unrecyclable crap out and then pay to have it landfilled. And producers have the gall to blame us for low recycling rates!
Thats also not even including all of the single use plastics, and including the needles from the diabetes and Ozempic craze that public puts in their recycling cart that harm our workers and cost a ton to responsibly dispose of.
They are evil and dont care about recyclingits just to avoid the PR scrutiny of litter and ocean harm as they continue to make UNRECYCLABLE packaging but tell you its recycl-ABLE that makes you confused and recyclers pay for it all. If it is not able to be recycled, it doesnt matter where the logo says, we cant recycle it. The packaging industry makes it not recyclable because they dont care about the end of life responsibility. They keep the profit and spread the harm of managing it all out to cities, recyclers, and confused consumers.
RECYCLING PLASTICS RULE OF THUMB:
The recycling symbol with a number in the middle of it is merely a plastic resin identifier, not a green light for recyclability. (I know, that is part of the scam that the plastic industry created and where all the problems lie.)
The only plastics that have any market value and that we can recover in a mixed material recycling facility is number one or number two containers. Think sizable rigid items like bottles, jugs, tubs and jars. NO flimsy things like bags, wrappers, or tiny things like utensils, loose caps, or straws. Bags tangle, our equipment and tiny things slipped through are sorting operations. Its all trash that we have to pay to landfill so when in doubt throw it out.