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Related: About this forumMeltwater explodes out of the Greenland Ice Sheet changing assumptions on what is happening under the ice.
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Not only can meltwater from Greenland drain into the bedrock, but we now know that pressure at the base can cause an eruption from the surface, resulting in massive damage. Greenland's fate is worse than previously thought.
From The European Space Agency:|
Over a 10-day period in the summer of 2014, a massive crater 85 metres deep and spanning 2 square kilometres formed on the surface of the ice sheet as 90 million cubic metres of water were suddenly released from this hidden subglacial lake.
This is equivalent to about nine hours' worth of water thundering over Niagara Falls at peak flow, making it one of the largest recorded subglacial floods in Greenland.
While the sudden surge of meltwater was startling in itself, even more alarming was the accompanying damage towering 25-metre-high ice blocks torn from the surface, deep fractures in the ice sheet, and the ice surface scoured by the floods destructive force.
Jade Bowling, who led this work as part of her PhD at Lancaster University, said, When we first saw this, because it was so unexpected, we thought there was an issue with our data. However, as we went deeper into our analysis, it became clear that what we were observing was the aftermath of a huge flood of water escaping from underneath the ice.
Even more unexpected was the discovery that the flood took place in an area where models had indicated that the ice bed was frozen. This led researchers to suggest that intense pressure caused fractures beneath and through the ice sheet, creating channels through which the water could rise.
Current models that predict how ice sheets will respond to climate change and increased melting do not account for these upward-flowing, fracture-driven processes.
Mal McMillan, Co-Director of the Centre of Excellence in Environmental Data Science at Lancaster University, and Co-Director of Science at the UK Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling, said, This research demonstrates the unique value of long-term satellite measurements of Earths polar ice sheets, which due to their vast size would otherwise be impossible to monitor.
Satellites represent an essential tool for monitoring the impacts of climate change, and provide critical information to build realistic models of how our planet may change in the future.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/greenland-subglacial-flood-bursts-through-ice-sheet
Interesting Engineering reported on a statement from ESA:]
Surrounding this zone was another six square kilometers of scoured terrain, nearly twice the size of New Yorks Central Park.
The scale and violence of the flood left researchers with little doubt about the power of water moving beneath the ice.
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This study shows that, under extreme pressure, subglacial water can move in the opposite direction, fracturing the ice from below and exploding upward.
Because most models dont include these mechanisms, they may be underestimating the ice sheets vulnerability.
Even more surprisingly, the flood occurred in a region where the bed of the ice sheet was thought to be frozen solid.
That led researchers to propose a new mechanism: extreme water pressure caused fracturing along the ice base, which in turn allowed the water to erupt through the ice and escape at the surface.
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NowsTheTime
(1,197 posts)Nigrum Cattus
(923 posts)It's the worlds problem & not the only one
from Greenland, see attached article.
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/search?q=greenland
flashman13
(1,488 posts)Trump could order the destruction of the satellites making the observations and the problem goes away.
IronLionZion
(49,729 posts)and then declare climate change to be a hoax
popsdenver
(292 posts)for Oil, Gas, and Mineral extraction. This is cheerful news for Trump AND Putin.
Putin is the Driving force behind Trump attacking/controlling Greenland, Iceland, AND exp Canada.............
Cha
(313,830 posts)Domination.
He already is claiming under ice, underwater ocean floor reserves for oil, gas, and mineral rights under the ice the entire area to the north of Canada.
He has already been building a huge quantity of nuclear powered, heavy duty ice breakers.
He needs Greenland and Canada, to own a new northern passage for shipping so countries can avoid the Panama Canal and cut thousands of miles off their trips.
With the ice melting off much quicker, and his complete domination of Trump, his dream can come to fruition even quicker than planned.......
Cha
(313,830 posts)that since we Know this that Leaders across the World do, too... and are working to put a Stop to it.
My money is on Canada and the rest of the Democracy loving World to Hold Strong.
Botany
(75,116 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,608 posts)Orrex
(65,840 posts)Let's all go shopping!
ancianita
(41,446 posts)Centuries of ice buildup now melting, while land water is drying up due to over-drawing from aquifers.
https://www.propublica.org/article/groundwater-fresh-water-depletion-research-science-advances-takeaways
Duppers
(28,404 posts)Climate change is a problem; if it exists, too many people have not caused it, and thus, we should be having all the children we want.
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