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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(127,686 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 03:46 PM Aug 1

'Fire clouds' over Arizona and Utah wildfires are creating their own erratic climate

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Two wildfires burning in the western United States — including one that has become a “megafire” on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon — are so hot that they are spurring the formation of “fire clouds” that can create their own erratic weather systems.

In Arizona, the wind-whipped wildfire that destroyed the Grand Canyon Lodge is 9% contained and has charred more than 164 square miles (424 square kilometers) to become the largest fire now burning in the continental U.S. and one of the top 10 largest in recorded Arizona history. Getting around it would be roughly like driving from New York City to Washington, D.C.

Another large fire in Monroe, Utah, has burned 75 square miles (194 square kilometers) since July 13 and is 11% contained, officials said Thursday. Evacuation orders were issued Wednesday for several towns in the fire’s path, and scorched power poles caused electricity to be shut off in other nearby communities in south-central Utah.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox declared an emergency Thursday as wildfires grew around the state and planned to visit Monroe on Friday.

https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-utah-arizona-grand-canyon-fire-clouds-4f859970e20ef298aa255c07acf34932

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'Fire clouds' over Arizona and Utah wildfires are creating their own erratic climate (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 1 OP
There was a video on FB of a firenado in Utah just a few weeks ago. -nt CrispyQ Aug 1 #1
Weather is not climate. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 1 #2
However, they are not entirely unrelated OKIsItJustMe Aug 1 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author erronis Aug 1 #7
You do not know what I will argue, so it is a mistake to make personal predictions like that Bernardo de La Paz Aug 1 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author erronis Aug 1 #9
FEMA?...................... Lovie777 Aug 1 #3
That's a great report from AP. Very detailed and full of facts. erronis Aug 1 #4
They still call it the "Gulf of Mexico" OKIsItJustMe Aug 1 #6

OKIsItJustMe

(21,640 posts)
5. However, they are not entirely unrelated
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:30 PM
Aug 1

"Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.” - I don’t remember who coined it…

If it’s hot today, that does not mean the climate has changed. On the other hand, if there is a significant trend, over the course of a few years, say, something like this:

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/stdata_show_v4.cgi?id=USC00023596&ds=14&dt=2


That suggests a changing climate.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #2)

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,703 posts)
8. You do not know what I will argue, so it is a mistake to make personal predictions like that
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:57 PM
Aug 1

Thousands, ... if we take that as days and as more than 2,000 days, that is about 5.5 years. That's enough years to note climate trends.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #8)

erronis

(21,091 posts)
4. That's a great report from AP. Very detailed and full of facts.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 04:00 PM
Aug 1

No wonder they are a target of the propaganda machine centered around trump.

OKIsItJustMe

(21,640 posts)
6. They still call it the "Gulf of Mexico"
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:33 PM
Aug 1

Call it a quick "litmus test" for truthful reporting.

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