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no_hypocrisy

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Sun Sep 7, 2025, 05:05 AM Sep 7

It doesn't make sense that substitute teachers can be so easily fired.

Last edited Sun Sep 7, 2025, 05:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Yes, a principal can simply decide not to use a sub again, even for minor issues or vague accusations, as it is often less complicated than a formal dismissal process for a tenured teacher.

But whether a substitute is a real teacher who can take over the agenda for an absent teacher, a manager, a babysitter, or a place-holder, there is a limited supply of them. And they are needed. A class can't run itself.

Why would a principal fire a substitute teacher for any action that a tenured teacher would be excused for?

By diminishing the supply of substitute teachers, the principal is undermining his/her school and its organization.

Finally, there's a business in several states named ESS (formerly Source for Teachers). They make contracts with school districts to provide qualified substitute teachers. If you screw up in an ESS district, you're more or less done teaching in all districts that have ESS. My question reiterated: where do they expect to get an unlimited supply of substitutes?

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It doesn't make sense that substitute teachers can be so easily fired. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Sep 7 OP
Interesting ProfessorGAC Saturday #1

ProfessorGAC

(74,517 posts)
1. Interesting
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 07:21 PM
Saturday

There was a low paying district that wasn't very far for me. I donate the money to charity, so the money didn't really matter.
I went to the HS there a handful of times for science & math.
When the principal left to take the AD job at a much bigger HS, a new principal comes in.
He texted me that he was looking forward to meeting and asked if I'd do an English class.
I told him the old principal left out an important fact. I only do science & math classes. He never contacted me again.
I ran into the old principal last Friday at the school he went to.
He told me that principal ran off a guy from the next town over that was THE go-to sub for that school.
His #1 sub! Willing to work for that piddly money, over & over.
Another school I went to a lot asked me to quit commenting on a student's behavior while it was happening. I can't imagine how a sub could be handcuffed more than to have to say nothing while the behavior is happening. I quit going there.r
So, what you're describing seems to be endemic.

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