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Related: About this forumJohn Fogerty on the Best and Most Misunderstood Music of His Career (Vulture, 8/20/25)
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Song that best represents your values
Proud Mary has worn so well all these years. It was the first really good song I wrote, and it was a bit of a shock even for me. I had been fascinated with music as early as I can remember, probably before I could walk. Under my mothers tutelage and mentoring, she gave me a little childrens record of two songs, Oh! Susanna and Camptown Races. At some point, she informed me that Stephen Foster was the songwriter. That was a bombshell event in my life, because I never concerned myself with the songwriter. I was aware from that moment on that Stephen Foster learned all kinds of tidbits about our country and wrote great songs like Swanee River and wasnt from the South he was from Pittsburgh. It was kind of like me in some ways. Also, he was Americas first professional songwriter, meaning he actually decided he was going to try and earn a living doing it. He was a beacon for me. As I went along, my references were full of Americana and the American South. It wasnt by design; it was just something I was attracted to.
I received my honorable discharge from the Army. I discovered it sitting on the steps of my apartment in the summer of 1968. This was a fateful day in my life. I had a band and was trying to make a musical career, but the Army dictated how I could look, and I didnt want to wear a wig to look like my friends. Getting an honorable discharge at the height of the Vietnam War was a blessing, as far as I was concerned. In this state of exhilaration and extreme happiness, I ran in the house and picked up my guitar, started strumming some chords, and the next thing you know, I had written Proud Mary. What this represents to me is simple: In the back burner of my brain was, You really got to do this now, John, or youre going to be forced economically to get a job and do something else. Youre going to end up being an auto mechanic. I went to the place I felt the most comfortable and wrote about what I knew. Dont try to write what you dont know about, because you really get off track doing that. Even now that the edges are a little worn like a great flannel shirt, Proud Mary has been around a while, and everybodys very familiar with it. It sounds just like some of the other songs that I really love, like Old Rockin Chair or Over the Rainbow.
Most misunderstood song
I would say Fortunate Son. Thats misunderstood by a small percentage of people people who seem to be conservative, right-wing, and probably Republican or some other ism in that category. And most notably by Mr. Trump. Its happened before where people thought it was a patriotic ditty to wave the flag and all that, not really understanding the cynicism and absolute defiance I had in the song. I mean, even if you dont hear the rest of it, you should at least hear, It aint me, I aint no fortunate son. But if you dont, then I guess youre able to see the song in a different way. How can I say this? I cant imagine using that song as a political rallying theme, particularly when you seem to be the person who Im screaming about in the song on all three counts. Its hilarious to me. Maybe Im the one that misunderstands it, who knows?
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How Tina Turners Proud Mary cover recontextualized the song for you
She made a production out of it. She took the words literally and did an arrangement that was very dramatic starting with the slower part, somewhat reminiscent of old Black spiritual music or field hollers. Then she goes uptown and gets really sassy, unstoppable, and undeniable. I first heard the cover when I was in my car. It was dark outside sometime in the winter. I was thrilled. It lit me up. Id been a fan of Tina for a long time. I actually had performed some of the earlier Ike and Tina Turner songs, particularly Its Gonna Work Out Fine. I had seen her on Dick Clarks American Bandstand and was really pulling for her to break through. So it all came together listening to her singing Proud Mary. I was so happy about it. It just seemed like a brand-new song. Through the years, its kind of perceived that way. Other people have tried to cover the song, but Tinas version has a different perspective, and people think of it separately from my version.
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Song that best represents your values
Proud Mary has worn so well all these years. It was the first really good song I wrote, and it was a bit of a shock even for me. I had been fascinated with music as early as I can remember, probably before I could walk. Under my mothers tutelage and mentoring, she gave me a little childrens record of two songs, Oh! Susanna and Camptown Races. At some point, she informed me that Stephen Foster was the songwriter. That was a bombshell event in my life, because I never concerned myself with the songwriter. I was aware from that moment on that Stephen Foster learned all kinds of tidbits about our country and wrote great songs like Swanee River and wasnt from the South he was from Pittsburgh. It was kind of like me in some ways. Also, he was Americas first professional songwriter, meaning he actually decided he was going to try and earn a living doing it. He was a beacon for me. As I went along, my references were full of Americana and the American South. It wasnt by design; it was just something I was attracted to.
I received my honorable discharge from the Army. I discovered it sitting on the steps of my apartment in the summer of 1968. This was a fateful day in my life. I had a band and was trying to make a musical career, but the Army dictated how I could look, and I didnt want to wear a wig to look like my friends. Getting an honorable discharge at the height of the Vietnam War was a blessing, as far as I was concerned. In this state of exhilaration and extreme happiness, I ran in the house and picked up my guitar, started strumming some chords, and the next thing you know, I had written Proud Mary. What this represents to me is simple: In the back burner of my brain was, You really got to do this now, John, or youre going to be forced economically to get a job and do something else. Youre going to end up being an auto mechanic. I went to the place I felt the most comfortable and wrote about what I knew. Dont try to write what you dont know about, because you really get off track doing that. Even now that the edges are a little worn like a great flannel shirt, Proud Mary has been around a while, and everybodys very familiar with it. It sounds just like some of the other songs that I really love, like Old Rockin Chair or Over the Rainbow.
Most misunderstood song
I would say Fortunate Son. Thats misunderstood by a small percentage of people people who seem to be conservative, right-wing, and probably Republican or some other ism in that category. And most notably by Mr. Trump. Its happened before where people thought it was a patriotic ditty to wave the flag and all that, not really understanding the cynicism and absolute defiance I had in the song. I mean, even if you dont hear the rest of it, you should at least hear, It aint me, I aint no fortunate son. But if you dont, then I guess youre able to see the song in a different way. How can I say this? I cant imagine using that song as a political rallying theme, particularly when you seem to be the person who Im screaming about in the song on all three counts. Its hilarious to me. Maybe Im the one that misunderstands it, who knows?
-snip-
How Tina Turners Proud Mary cover recontextualized the song for you
She made a production out of it. She took the words literally and did an arrangement that was very dramatic starting with the slower part, somewhat reminiscent of old Black spiritual music or field hollers. Then she goes uptown and gets really sassy, unstoppable, and undeniable. I first heard the cover when I was in my car. It was dark outside sometime in the winter. I was thrilled. It lit me up. Id been a fan of Tina for a long time. I actually had performed some of the earlier Ike and Tina Turner songs, particularly Its Gonna Work Out Fine. I had seen her on Dick Clarks American Bandstand and was really pulling for her to break through. So it all came together listening to her singing Proud Mary. I was so happy about it. It just seemed like a brand-new song. Through the years, its kind of perceived that way. Other people have tried to cover the song, but Tinas version has a different perspective, and people think of it separately from my version.
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John Fogerty on the Best and Most Misunderstood Music of His Career (Vulture, 8/20/25) (Original Post)
highplainsdem
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Big fan. Saw him twice. The last was probably 20 years ago in a great ole venue in Atlanta.
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Silent Type
(10,815 posts)1. Big fan. Saw him twice. The last was probably 20 years ago in a great ole venue in Atlanta.
ProfessorGAC
(74,200 posts)2. Darn! Couldn't Read The Whole Article
It says I reached my monthly limit, but it's only the 2nd.
The snip was very interesting.
We had a friend of the band (who played guitar) that was a Fogarty nut. He had to see him 30 or 40 times.
Every time I talked to him, for years, he had just seen or had tickets to see John.
"I'm driving to Indianapolis to see Fogarty." "I'm flying to New Orleans to see Fogarty."
He was a serious fan!
highplainsdem
(57,985 posts)3. Emailing you...