Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

3Hotdogs

(15,710 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:07 AM 6 hrs ago

His name is/was Ken. We were in the Class of '70 in a small college. I haven't seen him since graduation

and yesterday I got to thinking about him. He seemed smarter than me. The kind of guy you looked up to for answers and understanding. School would close on May 6, a couple of days after the Kent State Massacre. The college president was worried that riots would break out so he issued a proclamation that there would be no more formal classes. You could accept your posted grade for the courses you took or you could opt to take the final exam in the hope your grade would improve.

My grade average was 3.9 or something close so there was no purpose to taking any exams. I went home. I guess Ken did the same.

He came to my mind this morning on a radio program where a polling company published the results of a pole that asked if you were confident about the future and your ability to make your way in what the future might bring, The optimists have declined over the years this pole has been conducted.

That brings me to Ken. He was 22. Maybe 23. And he had a vasectomy before he graduated. He didn't want to bring a child into the world, given the directions the world was going. At that time, "ecology" was one of two new focal points of the media and young people. 1970 was the April of the first Earth Day. The other concern was Viet Nam. Both showed a world heading down the shitter, Imagine if the youth of the 60's and 70's had a trip to the future to see Bush II or the Anal Fistula now occupying the White House..

Anyway - how this relates to me. I regret having children. I got two. They will probably be alright. They got inexpensive houses and jobs to pay for the houses.

It's the grandkids that I worry about. One graduated last year, from a second tier university at a cost of about $200k. His girl friend (whom I really like) graduated from the same college.They plan to spend this winter working at a ski resort. After that, they don't know.

The other 7 grandkids ---I don't know. They are all smart -creative and not afraid of physical or intellectiual hard work. But where will they find the place to use talents they have or will develop?

And it's beyond the question of if they will be able to afford a house - the American Dream. Will they even be able to afford e square, health care and a rented roof over their heads.



After 56 years, I think Ken was right.

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
His name is/was Ken. We were in the Class of '70 in a small college. I haven't seen him since graduation (Original Post) 3Hotdogs 6 hrs ago OP
We've all had "after this, I just don't know" moments. But most of us have muddled through in at least some degree. ... marble falls 5 hrs ago #1
Fellow optimist. I agree completely and have faith in my grandchildren too. FadedMullet 5 hrs ago #2
The little lady and I decided we don't want children. rubbersole 5 hrs ago #3
lol orleans 4 hrs ago #4
yeah - just as well get one last meal out of it .... (hope they're paying ?) - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 3 hrs ago #5
A couple of things: no_hypocrisy 32 min ago #6

marble falls

(73,385 posts)
1. We've all had "after this, I just don't know" moments. But most of us have muddled through in at least some degree. ...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:43 AM
5 hrs ago

... I'd rather be living now than then. There were some mighty screwed up shit in the twentieth century: wars, economic crashes, crooked Presidents surrounded by crooks, a President who segregated the Army after WWI and brought about Jim Crow, race riots that killed hundreds, times when entire black populations were forced out of towns literally overnight (my own town and several neighboring towns did it, put blacks on the train by force and sent them to Austin, all sort of disease and plagues, gangsters ran rampant, atomic weapons were used, and on and on and on.

I'd much rather be around now than then, and your grandchildren will do alright, just like we did in spite of our grandparents despairing over our futures. We'll get through this and we have to fight.

rubbersole

(11,330 posts)
3. The little lady and I decided we don't want children.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 01:25 AM
5 hrs ago

We plan to tell them after dinner.


(Stolen from the internet.)

orleans

(37,405 posts)
4. lol
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:13 AM
4 hrs ago


might be stolen from the internet but i never heard it before.
thanks for the last chuckle before bed. i had a shit day and actually this is the only chuckle all day.

stopdiggin

(15,805 posts)
5. yeah - just as well get one last meal out of it .... (hope they're paying ?) - - - - - - - - -(nt)-
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:27 AM
3 hrs ago

no_hypocrisy

(55,660 posts)
6. A couple of things:
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 05:54 AM
32 min ago

1. Around 1972, I announced to my mother that I didn't think I should have children. (I was 17.) She asked why and more or less I gave her the answers that Ken gave. My mother sighed and responded that there never was a good time in history to have children. I think she begged the question by avoiding my premise.

2. My friend is 78. Both his children weren't planned (accidents). He made the best of the situation and worked his ass off to pay for them. His wife made it her mission to turn them against him every step of the way. His son never completed even community college but got a decent job with UPS. His son might have been able to afford a house, except he lost whatever savings to two failed marriages and three worthless children. He has returned home to live with his elderly parents and is an alcoholic. My friend came from a nearly ideal nuclear family. They did everything together until their parents died. His own version just didn't come close to his childhood.

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»His name is/was Ken. We w...