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tblue37

(67,861 posts) Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:04 PM Nov 23

Fugelsang: "It's not a Peace Plan, it's a Surrender Plan. It's designed to have Ukraine reject it. . ."

It's not a Peace Plan, it's a Surrender Plan.

It's designed to have Ukraine reject it,
so Putin & his servant can blame Zelensky,
& Putin can continue his evil bloody invasion
bc Putin believes Ukraine belongs to Russia.

That's the only plan.
— John Fugelsang (@johnfugelsang.bsky.social) 2025-11-23T16:27:37.668Z

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Fugelsang: "It's not a Peace Plan, it's a Surrender Plan. It's designed to have Ukraine reject it. . ." (Original Post) tblue37 Nov 23 OP

Russia can barely fight the war in Ukraine Fiendish Thingy Nov 23 #1

(former) Congressman Adam Kinzinger emphatically states in his podcast "Ukraine is winning the war" yellowdogintexas Wednesday #2

PS I am asking for Fugelsang's book for Christmas nt yellowdogintexas Wednesday #3

Putin can't wait for this disaster to be over; but he doesn't want to appear weak FakeNoose Thursday #4

Fiendish Thingy

(21,715 posts)

1. Russia can barely fight the war in Ukraine

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:12 PM

Nov 23

I don’t see how they could continue to fight in Ukraine while “preparing for a bigger war in the future”.

If Ukraine accepted the surrender plan, yes, then I could see Russia rebuilding their military, but if they reject it and keep fighting, no.

yellowdogintexas

(23,572 posts)

2. (former) Congressman Adam Kinzinger emphatically states in his podcast "Ukraine is winning the war"

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 26, 2025, 02:56 PM

Wednesday

It may not look like it but Ukraine does have the upper hand.
If the EU digs in and provides weapon and other support, it will be over.
NATO as well but EU has more at stake...start with Poland and then other countries which border Russia.

Makes sense to me. Russia is losing army and supplies.

yellowdogintexas

(23,572 posts)

3. PS I am asking for Fugelsang's book for Christmas nt

Reply to yellowdogintexas (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 26, 2025, 02:56 PM

Wednesday

FakeNoose

(39,743 posts)

4. Putin can't wait for this disaster to be over; but he doesn't want to appear weak

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Thu Nov 27, 2025, 11:02 AM

Thursday

... he doesn't want to be seen as a "loser."

So yeah, Fugelsang is exactly right... this so-called "peace proposal" was meant to be rejected from the get-go. I can't believe that WE didn't reject it, even before it was shown to Pres. Zelensky.

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