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mahatmakanejeeves

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Sun Nov 30, 2025, 09:33 AM Sunday

National Review: 'We Intended the Strike to Be Lethal' Is Not a Defense

Nov. 30, 2025
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NR PLUS National Security & Defense

‘We Intended the Strike to Be Lethal’ Is Not a Defense

By Andrew C. McCarthy
November 29, 2025 8:20 PM


Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth speaks during a meeting with Dominican Republic President Luis Abinader, in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, November 26, 2025. (Erika Santelices/Reuters)

An explosive Washington Post report, the subject of so much discussion the past two days, says that, in the first missile strike the Trump Defense Department carried out against operatives of a boat suspected of transporting narcotics on the high seas off Venezuela, two survivors were rendered shipwrecked. As they clung to the wreckage, the U.S. commander ordered a second strike, which killed them.

If this happened as described in the Post report, it was, at best, a war crime under federal law. I say “at best” because, as regular readers know, I believe the attacks on these suspected drug boats — without congressional authorization, under circumstances in which the boat operators pose no military threat to the United States, and given that narcotics trafficking is defined in federal law as a crime rather than as terrorist activity, much less an act of war — are lawless and therefore that the killings are not legitimate under the law or armed conflict. (See my Saturday column, with links to prior posts on this subject.)

Nevertheless, even if we stipulate arguendo that the administration has a colorable claim that our forces are in an armed conflict with non-state actors (i.e., suspected members of drug cartels that the administration has dubiously designated as foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs)), the laws of war do not permit the killing of combatants who have been rendered hors de combat (out of the fighting) — including by shipwreck.

To reiterate, I don’t accept that the ship operators are enemy combatants — even if one overlooks that the administration has not proven that they are drug traffickers or members of designated FTOs. There is no armed conflict. They may be criminals (if it is proven that they are importing illegal narcotics), but they are not combatants.

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Andrew C. McCarthy is a senior fellow at National Review Institute, an NR contributing editor, and author of Ball of Collusion: The Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency. @AndrewCMcCarthy
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National Review: 'We Intended the Strike to Be Lethal' Is Not a Defense (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sunday OP
They are admitting to premeditated murder. Irish_Dem Sunday #1
What everyone is jumping over is that Hegseth was given an illegal order underpants Sunday #2

underpants

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2. What everyone is jumping over is that Hegseth was given an illegal order
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 10:19 AM
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What the Dem Senators said on the video/commercial applies to Hegseth as well and he isn’t even in the military. Hegseth says he’s sure he/they have authority to do this. No, they don’t. Just because a President (sadly in this case Trump) tells you to do something doesn’t make it legal.

McCarthy makes very accurate points here. The illegality is without question.

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