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mahatmakanejeeves

(66,861 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 06:37 AM Sep 21

What Happens After We Die? These UVA Researchers Are Investigating It.

What Happens After We Die? These UVA Researchers Are Investigating It.

When our bodies perish, can our consciousness persist? At the University of Virginia, researchers are searching for answers, one near-death experience at a time.

WRITTEN BY JOAN NIESEN | PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2025

At the eastern edge of downtown Charlottesville—past the red-brick pedestrian mall with its bookstores and fudge shops and busking guitarists, beyond the incongruously modern amphitheater, just as the road begins to slope downhill toward the train tracks and then out toward Monticello—sits an utterly nondescript condo building.

I was there looking for the site of some highly unusual research conducted within the University of Virginia’s medical school. It’s mind-bending, norm-challenging work that explores the metaphysical—which is why I’d expected something a little more mystical. A spiral staircase, an owl, a crystal ball. The divination tower at Hogwarts. Certainly not a mid-rise straight out of Anywhere, USA. Only there it was, visible through the glass front door: a placard in the lobby reading “Division of Perceptual Studies.”

The door handle turned with a wiggle. Upstairs were the researchers I’d come to see, inside an office lined with heaving bookshelves, at wide wooden desks scattered with papers and research journals. They’ve devoted their careers to one of life’s biggest questions: What happens when we die?

The short answer: No one really knows. But the scientists at the Division of Perceptual Studies—DOPS, for short—are doing their best to find out. Founded in 1967, the 14-person group investigates the relationship between life and death, mind and brain, and the tantalizing, albeit woo-woo, possibility that when our physical bodies perish, our consciousness persists.

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What Happens After We Die? These UVA Researchers Are Investigating It. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 21 OP
Ask the paranormal investigators, ghost hunters, etc.................. Lovie777 Sep 21 #1
It's a legitimate question. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 21 #5
Theyve investigated thoussnds of cases of reincarnation reports. The results Karadeniz Sep 21 #3
Why does anyone who thinks human consciousness can survive without a brain think that it's so dependent muriel_volestrangler Sep 21 #4
Karl Jung believed it is a collective unconscious. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #6
So what is a "collective unconscious"? muriel_volestrangler Sep 21 #7
Carl Jung: Irish_Dem Sep 21 #8
But your personal consciousness is associated with your body, and thus matter muriel_volestrangler Sep 21 #9
I cannot say whether Carl Jung thought about alien beings or not. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #10
"It is assumed" - well, that's your problem right there. muriel_volestrangler Sep 21 #11
some folk simply cannot deal with reality Skittles Sep 21 #12
Some people like to deal with science. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #14
sorry, I think "afterlife" is a bunch of nonsense Skittles Sep 21 #15
Your theory is neither proven or unproven. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #17
yeah Skittles Sep 21 #19
We are discussing Jung's theory of the collective unconscious. Irish_Dem Sep 22 #21
There is no evidence for or against personal consciousness being personal. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #13
Yes, there is evidence for it being personal. I already mentioned it. muriel_volestrangler Sep 22 #20
Carl Jung was one of the greatest minds of the 19th century. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #16
Both your theory and Jung's theory are totally unproven. Irish_Dem Sep 21 #18
We play saxophone in an all-girl jazz combo in Las Vegas. Aristus Sep 22 #22
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence Stuckinthebush Sep 22 #23

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
2. It's a legitimate question.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 06:49 AM
Sep 21

All of the world's religions tell us there is an afterlife.
Many humans on the planet believe this to be true
and take it for granted.

Yet no one does legit research on the topic.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #2)

Karadeniz

(24,644 posts)
3. Theyve investigated thoussnds of cases of reincarnation reports. The results
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 11:06 AM
Sep 21

overwhelmingly do not support the author's claim that no one really knows, except to those who don't want to know.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts)
4. Why does anyone who thinks human consciousness can survive without a brain think that it's so dependent
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 21

on one particular brain, and the chemistry and connections of that brain, while the human is alive?

You can stop consciousness with drugs or poisons, a blow to the head, surgery and so on. Sometimes these have permanent effects on the consciousness. How could that consciousness survive without the one material brain on which it so clearly depends during life?

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
6. Karl Jung believed it is a collective unconscious.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 03:48 PM
Sep 21

Not just one.

It is all humans together on the planet which form this afterlife consciousness.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts)
7. So what is a "collective unconscious"?
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 03:51 PM
Sep 21

Could he explain, for instance, why this "collective unconscious" is subject to the laws of gravity and motion and thus follows the Earth around? Or does it permeate the entire universe billions of light years away too?

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
8. Carl Jung:
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 04:37 PM
Sep 21

BTW Jung was a contemporary and colleague of Sigmund Freud.

The two of them are considered 19th century geniuses who ushered in the fields
of psychology and psychiatry.

Jung's collective unconscious is the concept of a shared, inherited psychological foundation for all humanity, distinct from the personal unconscious. It is a deep universal layer of the mind. It contains the history, mythology, wisdom from our ancestors over the millennia.
It contains all the archetypes, history, culture, values, etc. These themes echo over
and over in our dreams, literature, laws, values, etc.

It is one explanation for why it appears that cultures in the past separated by vast distances independently came up with major inventions, thoughts, laws, etc. And why humans seem connected by a shared value system, inventions, goals, etc.

Jung did not conceive of the CU as a physical entity. Just like the personal consciousness
is not a physical entity. So it would not be subject to laws of gravity.

I do not know if Jung thought of CU as pertinent to Earth only or if it extended out into the universe. I don't know if he thought about alien being consciousness or not.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts)
9. But your personal consciousness is associated with your body, and thus matter
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 04:43 PM
Sep 21

and so subject to gravity and the laws of motion.

If the collective unconscious is not, then it's quite a different thing.

As "unconscious" indicates, for that matter.

If he didn't think about alien consciousness, it would indicate a limited imagination, and rather make me think "so who cares what Jung believed?".

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
10. I cannot say whether Carl Jung thought about alien beings or not.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 04:51 PM
Sep 21

So my opinion about that specific topic is not valid.

Jung was a true genius; he and Freud changed our understanding
of human inner functioning.

Anyone who has read the works of Carl Jung knows he had
more imagination in his little finger than most of the US population.

No, we have no idea at all if human consciousness is subject to the laws
of gravity or not. There is no research on this topic to my knowledge.

It is assumed it is a non physical entity that transcends linear and physical laws.
Which actually was a sign that Jung was very advanced with great imagination
and thinking outside the box.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts)
11. "It is assumed" - well, that's your problem right there.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 05:00 PM
Sep 21

If people just assume things that go against the evidence (that personal consciousness is specific to a person) , then they are just doing pointless religious speculation.

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
17. Your theory is neither proven or unproven.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 08:59 PM
Sep 21

From a scientific standpoint we simply don't know.

Skittles

(167,760 posts)
19. yeah
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:05 PM
Sep 21

whatever

some people need to believe such stuff to handle real life, others do not

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
21. We are discussing Jung's theory of the collective unconscious.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 05:45 AM
Sep 22

It has absolutely nothing to do with the afterlife.
Jung said the CU existed in current life, while we are alive.
I do not know if Jung believed in the afterlife at all.

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
13. There is no evidence for or against personal consciousness being personal.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 08:28 PM
Sep 21

Jung's theory has not been proven or disproven.

At this point, it is his theory.
Not fact.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts)
20. Yes, there is evidence for it being personal. I already mentioned it.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 05:34 AM
Sep 22

Consciousness is associated with one brain - damage, or chemical changes, to that brain alter the consciousness. It is clear that it's the brain, rather than, say, the liver or heart. Plus children's consciousness develops as their brain develops.

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
16. Carl Jung was one of the greatest minds of the 19th century.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 08:39 PM
Sep 21

He was wise beyond his time.
But still a product of this zeitgeist.

Jung and Freud's contributions to society, science, psychology is incalculable.
They certainly were not making pointless religious speculations.

Their insights were profound and ground breaking.

Irish_Dem

(75,575 posts)
18. Both your theory and Jung's theory are totally unproven.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:00 PM
Sep 21

Neither true or false until we have more data.

This is how science works.

Until we have data, it is all speculation,

Aristus

(70,983 posts)
22. We play saxophone in an all-girl jazz combo in Las Vegas.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 10:40 AM
Sep 22

The jury is out on whether or not this is if we are good or bad.

Stuckinthebush

(11,183 posts)
23. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 10:52 AM
Sep 22

I look forward to seeing the results of these studies. Oh, and the methodology.

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