The following famous individuals were Unitarians:

George Washington – 1st President of U.S.
John Adams – 2nd President of U.S.
John Quincy Adams – 6th President of U.S.
Thomas Jefferson – 3rd President of U.S. and author of Declaration of Independence
Paul Revere
Adlai Stevenson
William Howard Taft – 27th President of U.S. and Chief Justice of U.S. Supreme Court
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. – U.S. Supreme Court Justice

Are these people no longer Americans?

list from https://ushartford.org/about-uuism/famous-unitarians/

I’m Unitarian, we have a huge church. That’s how you measure it, right?

Not the same things.

Go to hell.
Um, make that get lost, turn blue.

or belief.

They have a point, I guess--it's not a system, it's a non-belief. So it's strange to think of it being offensive that it's no longer on a list of 'religions'.

I guess in this case not a legit religion in the U. S. military per Hegseth.
I guess we should be grateful he left in agnostic. For now anyway.

People who belong to a religion that forbids military service do not serve in a volunteer force and are exempt from a draft as conscientious objectors.

Chaplains are important for the welfare and moral of service members, including service members that are not religious.

"People who kill for a living?" Is that really how you see all of the people in our military? In case you're not aware of it, there are many veterans right here in our DU community. Whether this was meant as a joke or not (I can't tell for sure), I think you owe all of them an apology for disrespecting them. You have no right to judge them so harshly, even in jest.

If I sound angry, it's because I am. Some of my favorite prople, at DU and IRL, are veterans. I need to stop now, before I say something I'll regret later.

To all our DU veterans:

even secretaries go thru gun training on how to shoot at a target. that the military is trained to kill is a fact IMO. chaplains usually have a thou shalt not kill command somewhere in their religion (aka ten commandments) so there is a conflict. I think we don't need chaplains or religion in the military. non religious counseling can be made available. but I think they don't need marching bands either.

You didn't answer my question directly, but this reply tells me what I need to know. You have made it quite clear that you hold all those who currently serve in the military and all those who have served in the past, including our DU veterans, in utter contempt. Wow.

I don't like war any better than the next person, but I'm a realist, not a pacifist. I have great respect for those who have served, and great disdain for those who disrespect them.

Did Episcopalians make the cut?

after that glorious takedown of the orange buffoon a few years ago...

oh, and for being affirming and treating women like human beings...

...that we run the National Cathedral!

I'll take those anytime!

For a few years I had to accept 'NO PREFERENCE', which was a lie, since I certainly DID have preference!

I saw a newspaper article about a kid in the Navy that had gone to court and had "ATHEIST" approved. I immediately headed to the base personnel office and demanded that I also get my personal preference. (As far as I know, I was one of the first Air Force person new to get that designation.)

They complied.

Agnostic was not an option.

Same.

...roll in the same gutter!

We'll have to change the Constitution.

Help me jesus.

This administration doesn't like most of it anyway. They'll just keep the 2nd amendment.

...in the church of THEIR choice.........

They do what they want! Change the Constitution….no problem! There, it’s done!!

sponsored by the Heritage Foundation. That's it. Surprised they kept agnostics and Methodists on the list.

They are all awful

Atheist
Humanist
Deist
Pagan
Wiccan (including various Wiccan traditions)
Druid
Asatru
Heathen
The Troth
Magick
Shaman
Spiritualist
Unitarian Universalist
Eckankar
Rosicrucianism
New Age Churches

I won't comment on the others, because there are so many of them.


I believe Unitarians were considered "Protestant" in the 1960s or possibly X?


Religious Codes & Their EvolutionPrior to 1962, the U.S. military used specific single-letter abbreviations to save space on stamped identification tags
P: Protestant
C: Catholic
H: Hebrew (Jewish)
X: Other or unspecified religion (introduced in 1952)
Y: No religious preference (introduced in 1952

My Unitarian cousins were considered to be more or less Protestant.

And Pagan/Natural Spirituality is the fastest growing tradition in America

Enhance the delivery of “targeted” religious support…

This list is ok. Everyone else can fuck off.

Maybe some Wiccans would be willing to put a curse on him or some with a faith in Voodoo can stick pins in dolls with his likeness. Maybe everyone who wants him gone can focus attention on him to direct lots of bad vibes toward him. If you can petition the lord with prayers, why not send lots of negative psychic energy to Hegseth and his false piety.

Just an FYI.

black Magick. But there are various interpretations of the Rede, depending on but not exclusively to different trads. I was taught it as inclusive and not straight out exclusive. Beyond that there are grey area such as .mirror magick. And protective magic that includes those even beyond yourself. Pagans of all sorts were warriors. And some of the most interesting goddesses we have are warrior mother goddesses.

But like I said above there are a lot of trads and individual beliefs, which is one reason I love this path. Peace to you and yours from a pagan veteran. And my thoughts to Circle Sanctuary and Selena Fox with this announcement. They fought so many years for our recognition. I can imagine the range of emotions going through them today

It also had the wrong blood type. I had the wrong blood type until I got pregnant and found out I was rh negative

I just went with the dateline from my source. Mea culpa.

Gone deep state, no doubt.

The Church of the Subgenius is a parody religion meant to engage in a form of culture jamming when it comes to the treatment of religion. So all apologies to any who were offended by my remarks about putting a hex on Trump etc. As an atheist, I believe most if not all religions devolve into self-parody by their assumptions of supernatural powers and the self-aggrandizement of church leaders and their constant need to ask you for money in the form of tax-free contributions. If there was a tax on all churches, our national debt could be almost eliminated. They don't deserve this tax-free ride. So many charlatans and con men are hiding behind religion, of all denominations. And religion is so divisive. There's always an US and Them to fight in wars made holy.

Won pur fight for Wicca to be recognized, although we still had to fight to keep Christians from desrcrating our worship areas. And just like that they once again disregard our existence.

Okay... as much as I detest the move I gotta ask... UU??? Christ, what did they do to offend anybody?!

Wonder how much of the military would be left if all the other faiths got up and walked out due to discrimination. Some of us had to do mental twists just to feel ok with enlisting. So let's see, I'm Craft, and a woman. Not good enough to fight for our country the way this DoW wants. But I can still fight for it in my own witchy way. Hail Hecate!

economic justice

That's probably why they've been "declassified" by hogsbreath.

Wikipedia:
The modern Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) was formed in 1961 through the consolidation of the American Unitarian Association, established in 1825, and the Universalist Church of America, established in 1793. The UUA is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, and serves churches mostly in the United States. A group of thirty Philippine congregations is represented as a sole member within the UUA. The Canadian Unitarian Council (CUC) became an independent body in 2002. The UUA and CUC were two of the seventeen members of the now defunct International Council of Unitarians and Universalists (1995–2021). In 2025, 0.4% of American adults, or approximately 1.1 million people, were estimated to identify with Unitarian Universalism (not limited to the UUA denomination) according to the Public Religion Research Institute's Census of American Religion.[

(my bold)

and that was what led us to become UUs.

WTF - many of the founding fathers adhered to Deism - it inspired one of the basic tenets of the separation of church and state...oh, that's why they don't like it.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster must be so relieved 🙄

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This is stupid, either accept all of them or none of them.

You don’t need more than Christian, Catholic and Jewish anyway!

is still on the list

the 0.5% of Unitarian universalists, 0.4% wiccan/neopagan, 0.3% of Humanists (with more than 2% generally identifying with secular humanism), and so on.

Of the exclusions, excluding Atheists is the strangest. Seems the military would like that category because it wouldn't require much in the way of customized religious/spiritual support.

I don't know the percentages that identify with all the other groups are, but at a guess, I think the exclusion of Atheists erases the most people in one go.

Guess Hegseth thinks the saying "there are no Atheists in fox holes" is some sort of statement of fact.