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BumRushDaShow

(168,860 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:37 AM Thursday

Trump officials scrapped Pentagon blueprint to avoid civilian war casualties before Iran strikes, report says

Source: The Independent

Wednesday 11 March 2026 17:30 EDT


Before the Iran war, the Trump administration reportedly gutted a series of initiatives aimed at reducing civilian casualties, according to insiders.

The move is under new scrutiny now that the U.S. is accused of launching a February 28 missile strike that hit a girls' primary school near a military base and killed scores of people. The attack in the city of Minab left more than 165 people dead, most of them children under 12, according to Iranian officials.

“We’re departing from the rules and norms that we’ve tried to establish as a global community since at least World War II,” Air Force veteran Wes J. Bryant, a member of the Pentagon’s Biden-era Civilian Protection Center of Excellence who was forced out in job cuts last spring, told ProPublica. “There’s zero accountability.”

The U.S. says the strike is under investigation, though President Trump has suggested Iran or “somebody else” might be responsible for the attack, which appeared to use an American Tomahawk missile. Internally, a Pentagon probe reportedly found that outdated U.S. targeting data caused American forces to hit the school.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-strike-hegseth-civilian-deaths-b2936723.html



Link to ProPublica REPORT - The U.S. Built a Blueprint to Avoid Civilian War Casualties. Trump Officials Scrapped It.
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benfranklin1776

(7,007 posts)
1. Willful and malicious evil.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 05:08 AM
Thursday

Malice aforethought is the sine qua non of murder, a crime for which he and his gang of neoNazis who made this and other deliberate choices must be tried. 😡

Attilatheblond

(8,751 posts)
8. If he can't sexually abuse them, he wants them dead
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 01:50 PM
Thursday

Yeah, turn the whole team over for trials in the Hague.

Ol Janx Spirit

(994 posts)
3. Not killing civilians is woke....
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:25 AM
Thursday

We can't have that in the military these days.

"No stupid rules of engagement," Hegseth told us; "no politically correct wars," he added.

It is soooo PC to NOT kill civilians--especially little kids.

Beat your chest Pete and tell us how manly we are for doing this.

Meanwhile, Evil Turnip tries to tell us that somewhere along the line we sold Tomahawk missiles AND all of the launch equipment needed to use them to Iran so they could bomb their own school in a false flag attempt at making us look bad....

Wonder Why

(6,865 posts)
5. Turn the whole administration and the repugs in office over to the Iranians for suitable punishment. We could
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:42 AM
Thursday

probably get a $1B in oil from Iran for each of them and, of course, having more gas for our ever increasing supply of BPFM (Big Pickups For MAGAts) is our only aim since peace, justice, clean air, and democracy are all gone as aims.

karin_sj

(1,361 posts)
6. War crimes
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:35 AM
Thursday

They need to be held accountable. But how will this happen when they control the entire government?

Ms. Toad

(38,537 posts)
7. I want to know why everyone calls it a "girls' school" when (at the last tally I've seen)
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 12:36 PM
Thursday

There were slightly more boys killed than girls.

That's consistent with how most media seems to be referring to the deaths now ("mostly children" rather than "mostly girls" )

ETA: Here are two tallies - I've seen a third with a 59-48 (ish split). I can't find that again.

On March 3, Mehdi Keshtdar, head of the Judiciary-affiliated Mizan News Agency, stated that 110 students had been killed in the attack—66 boys and 54 girls. On the same day, the Iran newspaper, citing Minab Governor Mohammad Radmehr, published a handwritten list of victims that included 44 boys and 76 girls.


I did find a non-answer that explains why it is being called a girls' school (although the article itself calls it a children's school) - Iranian officials are emphasizing that it is a girls' school. But there apparently has been no explanation as to why there were so many boys present at a girls' school.

Neither account clarified why or how such a large number of boys were reportedly inside a girls’ school during the early hours of the morning. In Iran, schools are strictly segregated by gender, making it unlikely that the boys were even preschool-aged - particularly given that Shajareh Tayyibeh schools are considered to follow more conservative religious standards.


https://iranwire.com/en/features/149926-what-happened-at-the-bombed-school-in-minab/

BumRushDaShow

(168,860 posts)
10. OPB had some details about the compound
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 02:50 PM
Thursday
https://www.opb.org/article/2026/03/09/video-appears-to-show-u-s-missile-striking-iranian-school-compound/

Apparently this was an abandoned IRG base that was slowly converted to civilian use with multiple buildings including at least one school, a clinic, and supposedly a housing development.

So it's possible that there were 2 school buildings close to each other (or one being used for both, with students segregated by gender, but designated as "the girls school" pending additional construction in the future) and/or there were boys engaged elsewhere near the location.

And when you are talking about a tomahawk missile (or "missiles" ), there WILL BE "collateral damage".

NPR did a story about that too - Satellite images show Iran school strike hit more buildings than earlier reported

(snip)

The new images come from the company Planet and are of the city of Minab, located in southeastern Iran. They show that a health clinic and other buildings near the school were also struck. Three independent experts confirmed NPR's analysis of the additional strike points.

The strike points "look like pretty clean detonation centroids," said Corey Scher, a postdoctoral researcher at the Conflict Ecology laboratory at Oregon State University. "These certainly appear like detonation sites," agreed Scher's colleague, Oregon State associate professor Jamon Van Den Hoek.

Jeffrey Lewis, a professor at Middlebury College who specializes in satellite imagery, said the imagery was consistent with a precision airstrike. The images show "very precise targeting," Lewis told NPR. "Almost all the buildings [in the compound] are hit."

(snip)


Ms. Toad

(38,537 posts)
11. I certainly hope you are not suggesting the school was collateral damage.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 04:43 PM
Thursday

From anything I have seen, it was the target. And the slow conversation to a school ended no later than 2017 when the school appeared on Google Earth satellite imagery - 9 years ago. Additional buildings may have been added later, but the area was completely walled off from the military complex by then, with completely separate new entrances added. Ignoring data available to the general public for 9 years (let alone secret information available only to those planning this attack) is gross negligence (being as kind as posible)

I have also seen numerous reports of parents of boys who received calls from the school to pick up their sons. So apparently both boys and girls were present in the school itself, not simply in the rest of the compound.

BumRushDaShow

(168,860 posts)
14. Not at all
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:09 PM
Thursday

I indicated that anything in the vicinity was "collateral damage" and as noted by the 2nd link with the NPR analysis, it appeared that the compound may have been hit multiple times (or at least there was enough debris from the initial blast to damage every building in the compound). One article I saw quoted one of the Iranian leadership calling the hit a "double tap", which was an initial hit and then coming back around and hitting again (something that has been confirmed that the U.S. has done to those little speed boats).

And as I noted, the compound itself was still under construction where I think even one of your links showed a "ribbon cutting" on what was a new clinic. So it's possible that the "school building" was hosting both but would be designated as the "girls school" until another school was built as articles were mentioning "housing" that was also under construction.

Al Jazzera did an exhaustive analysis of the compound as well - i.e., most there were families of current military soldiers. Reuters also did an analysis and even described the school's website that had been active for at least a year, with photos of girls in uniforms all lined up.

And from here - https://iranwire.com/en/features/149926-what-happened-at-the-bombed-school-in-minab/

(snip)

Over time, however, it became clear that the school also had male students, or at least that some of the victims were boys.

On March 3, Mehdi Keshtdar, head of the Judiciary-affiliated Mizan News Agency, stated that 110 students had been killed in the attack—66 boys and 54 girls. On the same day, the Iran newspaper, citing Minab Governor Mohammad Radmehr, published a handwritten list of victims that included 44 boys and 76 girls.

Neither account clarified why or how such a large number of boys were reportedly inside a girls’ school during the early hours of the morning.In Iran, schools are strictly segregated by gender, making it unlikely that the boys were even preschool-aged - particularly given that Shajareh Tayyibeh schools are considered to follow more conservative religious standards.

(snip)


This is what I figured - that it would have been separated by gender, as many of the most conservative religions do in addition to the Islamic ones. It's possible that the boys attended a school "off compound" and were at the complex for some reason since Ramadan is still underway - OR - the boys were separated within the school building, in a separate section or on a separate floor.

As a side note, the NYT mentioned a boys school in Abyek outside of Tehran, where the target was supposed to be a nearby comm tower, but the school was damaged by the blast and at least one child was killed - https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/09/world/middleeast/iran-video-explosion-boys-school.html

Ms. Toad

(38,537 posts)
15. I think it's more than just one report it was a double tap.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:15 PM
Thursday

The parents of the children who were with surviving adults after the first strike were called to come pick up their children as soon as they could. Those children were no longer surviving when the parents arrived at the school. (It was some of the interviews with those parents that first led me to question the description of it as a girls' school - since some of those described dropping their sons off at the school.)

BumRushDaShow

(168,860 posts)
16. I think the key is that conservative religious sects of Islam
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 05:12 AM
Yesterday

segregate schooling by gender and apparently since that area where the compound is located, follows the more conservative ideology, any boys who were there were either originally segregated in that school building that has been designated for girls, perhaps pending a new building for them -or- they DO have their own building at the compound not yet named, -or- they were at the compound for some event.

I.e., they don't do "co-ed".

Supposedly that school is for children of the military, and any others are invited to attend based on whatever criteria they use to select those from non-military families.

I don't think Iran has gone as severe in the imposition and enforcement of Sharia law, "nationwide", as the Taliban in Afghanistan, but even during religious services, girls/women are separated from the boys/men.

Ms. Toad

(38,537 posts)
17. I'm guessing segregated within the building,
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:38 AM
Yesterday

Since most reports that separate the dead by gender that I've seen list more boys killed than girls. And I've seen several interviews of parents describing doing their sons off at school.

William Seger

(12,409 posts)
9. "Maximum lethality, not tepid legality. Violent effect, not politically correct."
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 02:20 PM
Thursday

Worst white rap ever.

Fil1957

(685 posts)
12. Whether they're Americans or citizens of any other country, If they ain't billionares, this administration could care
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 05:54 PM
Thursday

less about them.

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