And, Thompson was certainly a part of the problem, including the unnecessary deaths of innocent people who likely didn't receive the healthcare the needed. That said, he was shot in the back and killed, which was a cowardly act. Mangione needs to account for that.

have we given up on that premise in this country as well??

The rest of us can decide by the known evidence, including being found with the gun used in the murder and matching the photos of the crime and having a anti-insurance manifesto, etc

......upon searching Mangione's backpack again, police said they found a 3D-printed gun and a 3D-printed suppressor. Police stated that they also found a fake driver's license from New Jersey bearing the name "Mark Rosario". Reportedly, a man who checked into a Manhattan hostel in late November used an ID with the same name. Police later reported that shell casings found at the crime scene matched the gun found on Mangione. The police also said that when they arrested him, they found a 262-word handwritten document partly about the American healthcare system.

He certainly sounds innocent, lol

do y'all work for UHC?

I'm not going to convict anyone on a message board, even though y'all think you've got it all figured out.

... that went went to the lab and matched the bullets found on the scene by cops in another jurisdiction?
That seems fairly unlikely..ymmv

That wouldn't sound like some loony conspiracy thing

or consequence.

Under the law he is innocent until proven guilty and he has an able attorney. Unfortunately, for him, there is a photo of him committing the act, which will make his defense challenging at best.

About the federal agents who killed Good and Pretti?

If you have and I have missed it, I commend your consistency.
If not, why? Would they not also be innocent until proven guilty?

I haven't seen anyone charged with Pretti's murder. Perhaps I missed it ...

and demanding their arrest and imprisonment. That is no different as a poster saying Mangioni must face consequences...

DU does not file charges.

I have not seen anyone on DU decide that a particular named person killed Pretti. As I said, I may have missed it.

And we do have a name of the agent who killed Renee Good-

Simple yes/no is he innocent of criminal homicide until proven guilty in a court of law?

You have yet to provide names. And I can't speak about other DU'ers making accusations. "He said ... she said... " whatever.

All I'm saying is that Mangione has not been convicted.

What I suspect, given that death penalty is now off the table, is that a plea deal is being worked out. But that is a suspicion, a guess, nothing more.

Innocent until proven guilty is an absolute in court and I unhesitatingly defend that right for everyone
The court of public opinion is an entirely different animal. If one is willing to scold fellow posters in one case for presuming guilt but cannot answer affirmatively in another is telling.

and it is extremely telling that you blew smoke all over the place while refusing to answer mine.

Renee Good was shot 3 times at close range by agent Jonathon Ross, include a shot to the head when he was at the side of her car, out of any danger.
He has been neither convicted nor charged.
Is he innocent until proven guilty?

try their case. We haven't seen anyone charged as far as I know. And, that still doesn't make Mangione guilty.

And I fully agree that everyone deserves their day in court.

However, as a private citizen who is not on the jury, in each case I saw a video in which someone shot a person dead in cold blood. My personal opinion is that both their murderers who should never see the outside of the prison again.

The local cops bungled the handling and searches - and they knew it. The cops self snitched on their own bodycams (at least the parts that weren’t muted) and then backfilled their mistake by claiming they had to ensure there were no bombs in his bags (hint: they didn’t call the bomb squad)

Many mistakes are being glossed over to make sure they get their conviction. That is an injustice

Brava! That's exactly what you're dealing with.