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mahatmakanejeeves

(67,761 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:47 PM 15 hrs ago

Oklahoma college student's failing grade on gender essay dropped amid outcry

Source: Washington Post

Higher Education

Oklahoma college student’s failing grade on gender essay dropped amid outcry

The student said the score reflected religious discrimination after she cited the Bible in a psychology class paper

December 3, 2025 at 6:41 p.m. EST


The University of Oklahoma has placed a graduate student instructor on leave after a student alleged religious discrimination after receiving a failing grade on an essay. (Brett Deering/Getty Images)

By Niha Masih and Susan Svrluga

The University of Oklahoma assured a student that her final grade won’t be affected by the zero she got for an essay on gender, a score that prompted religious discrimination allegations and inflamed the heated cultural debate on American college campuses.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025/12/03/oklahoma-university-gender-bible/

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Oklahoma college student's failing grade on gender essay dropped amid outcry (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves 15 hrs ago OP
To start with OK is ranked 50th in education. Their university now says you really don't need to know anything flashman13 15 hrs ago #1
I dunno who would hire OU students. But then look at LibertyU - excellent penetration(!) into the gov't. erronis 15 hrs ago #2
She didn't cite the Bible in her paper dsc 15 hrs ago #3
Does her religion have specific prohibitions against using citations in an academic paper? Attilatheblond 15 hrs ago #4
Why be hypertechnical? dpibel 14 hrs ago #6
yes I am saying exactly and precisely that dsc 14 hrs ago #9
Please point me to where the zero was based on this dpibel 13 hrs ago #11
The instructions for the paper literally said to cite sources dsc 13 hrs ago #12
give me a break! the instructions given for the 'paper' quite clearly encompass and invite student 'opinion' stopdiggin 13 hrs ago #13
Informed opinions are fine. intheflow 3 hrs ago #18
Here is a link dpibel 13 hrs ago #14
You are correct. The other poster is wrong. Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #10
Blame the reporter for her poor work. Conjuay 14 hrs ago #8
https://kfor.com Students demanding teacher assistant be reinstated Deuxcents 14 hrs ago #5
I read at least one reference to the teacher assistant being "award winning" Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #16
This is what the RWNJshave been doing lonely bird 14 hrs ago #7
I live with markie 5 hrs ago #17

flashman13

(1,844 posts)
1. To start with OK is ranked 50th in education. Their university now says you really don't need to know anything
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:59 PM
15 hrs ago

about your major in order to get your degree. Believing in Jesus is apparently good enough.

Who here thinks employers (outside of OK) are going to look favorably on graduates of UO? But they have a great football team. Yay! Rah!

erronis

(22,234 posts)
2. I dunno who would hire OU students. But then look at LibertyU - excellent penetration(!) into the gov't.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:04 PM
15 hrs ago

dsc

(53,279 posts)
3. She didn't cite the Bible in her paper
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:10 PM
15 hrs ago

she paraphrased it without anything like a citation. And the reporter should know that. The paper has been released on line. It clearly has no citations whatsoever. If the reporter is too lazy and or ignorant to have figured that out maybe the reporter should have gotten the same grades in school as this student.

Attilatheblond

(7,969 posts)
4. Does her religion have specific prohibitions against using citations in an academic paper?
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:15 PM
15 hrs ago

If not, then the failed grade was not any sort of religious discrimination, it was fairly earned due to poor annotation.

dpibel

(3,741 posts)
6. Why be hypertechnical?
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:40 PM
14 hrs ago
She wrote:

In Genesis, God says that it is not good for man to
be alone, so He created a helper for man (which is a woman). Many people assume the word
“helper” in this context to be condescending and offensive to women. However, the original
word in Hebrew is “ezer kenegdo” and that directly translates to “helper equal to”. Additionally,
God describes Himself in the Bible using “ezer kenegdo”, or “helper”, and He describes His

Holy Spirit as our Helper as well. This shows the importance God places on the role of the helper
(women’s roles). God does not view women as less significant than men. He created us with
such intentionally and care and He made women in his image of being a helper, and in the image
of His beauty. If leaning into that role means I am “following gender stereotypes” then I am
happy to be following a stereotype that aligns with the gifts and abilities God gave me as a
woman.


Are you arguing that because she merely says, "In Genesis," as opposed to "In Genesis X:XX" she isn't citing the Bible?

She not only uses Genesis to support her argument, she purports to be a scholar of Hebrew and provides us with the proper translation of a term used in Genesis.

I'm not sure how this translates into you being all steamed at the reporter who used "cited."

BTW, in the stupid amount of time I spent searching for the actual essay, I ran across a veritable plethora of articles that used the very word "cited" to refer to what she did. You must be mad at a lot of people.

I'm just wondering why.

dsc

(53,279 posts)
9. yes I am saying exactly and precisely that
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:00 PM
14 hrs ago

this woman is in college not kindergarten. Citing something means not only saying what it says but saying where in the source it is said. Far from being hyper technical, it is the actual definition of citing something. One of the major reasons this student got that poor grade was that the student didn't cite any sources. It is a major reason why she deserved the poor grade.

dpibel

(3,741 posts)
11. Please point me to where the zero was based on this
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:21 PM
13 hrs ago

Originally, you were angry with the reporter for carelessly using the word "cited." (At least that was my understanding of your complaint.)

Now you are saying that the real problem is that any good college student should cite chapter and verse.

Can you point me to any source for your assertion that "One of the major reasons this student got that poor grade was that the student didn't cite any sources."

I've looked at quite a few articles on this and I can't find a single one where the grader said that he gave her the zero because she didn't cite any sources. There was, near as I can tell, no requirement in the assignment to cite sources. The reasons for the zero have been widely reported.

I actually believe we're on the same side here. I'm just thinking that your ire may be somewhat misdirected.

dsc

(53,279 posts)
12. The instructions for the paper literally said to cite sources
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:27 PM
13 hrs ago

she didn't. While she may not have deserved a zero (most rubrics have 1 as the lowest option not 0) she certainly deserved to fail. Papers in science classes are expected to provide evidence not the opinions of the writer.

stopdiggin

(14,833 posts)
13. give me a break! the instructions given for the 'paper' quite clearly encompass and invite student 'opinion'
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:45 PM
13 hrs ago

Understand that you've got a mad on here. But you're getting off into the weeds with this.

(and, in no way am I defending this as a good paper. it probably deserves a low, perhaps failing, score. but, your criticism seems - both off point, and exaggerated ? )

intheflow

(29,919 posts)
18. Informed opinions are fine.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:29 AM
3 hrs ago

But her paper was just a biblical opinion, based on whatever translation of the Bible she reads. For instance, some translations Genesis says God created mankind to have dominion over the world, while others translate it as man having stewardship over the world. Same passage, different translations, really different meanings. If she can’t even list her sources on her COLLEGE essay, she deserves her poor grade. I taught world religions at the high school level and even my kids knew to include a citation list. I wonder if she was homeschooled.

dpibel

(3,741 posts)
14. Here is a link
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:10 PM
13 hrs ago
This purports to be a verbatim reproduction of the assignment.

Point to me, if you'd be so kind, to the part in this that "literally said to cite sources."

You'll note, I'm sure, that #8 in the list of "possible approaches" calls for "your own thoughts." Help me understand how that is at odds with "the opinions of the writer," which you claim are not permitted.

Many thanks.

Wiz Imp

(8,440 posts)
15. You are correct. The other poster is wrong.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:34 PM
12 hrs ago

There was clearly no requirement in the assignment to cite sources and it pretty explicitly encouraged the students to share their personal opinions. I'm not sure what that other person's problem is with anything you've said. You've been on the mark all along.

Also, the student did not meet the 650 word requirement, so according to the instructions she was docked 10 points out of 25 automatically.

I believe the primary reason for her grade is she argued against the article by implying the article said things that it never said. In other words, she ignored the assignment to write a rant about why she believes the Bible is the all encompassing truth about everything.

A response received by the Daily Oklahoman:

I have taught college-level courses, and I would give the paper a 0/25. It didn’t follow the instructions given and was borderline incoherent on a sentence-by-sentence level. This student appears to be incapable of writing at even a high-school level and her grades should reflect that.

― Joel Fleming, Boston

Response to dpibel (Reply #6)

Deuxcents

(25,080 posts)
5. https://kfor.com Students demanding teacher assistant be reinstated
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:26 PM
14 hrs ago

Essay writer failed to follow assignment requirements..

lonely bird

(2,655 posts)
7. This is what the RWNJshave been doing
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:49 PM
14 hrs ago

They are conflating freedom of religion with freedom of speech. They are not the same.

They can worship however they want. Their speech is subject to being criticized and analyzed and subject to sarcasm. They cannot be stopped from speaking but they cannot demand silence in response.

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