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Zorro

(18,263 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:06 PM 3 hrs ago

Putin Says Russia Ready for War With Europe if Attacked

Source: Wall Street Journal

The Russian leader also accused Kyiv’s European allies of trying to undermine peace talks by amending a U.S. peace plan devised with Kremlin input

President Vladimir Putin said Russia was ready to fight a war with Europe if attacked and accused the continent’s leaders of trying to sabotage peace efforts, calling recent proposed changes to a U.S. peace plan for Ukraine “absolutely unacceptable.”

“We do not plan to fight Europe, I’ve already said it a hundred times. But if Europe wants to fight us, and starts it, then we’re ready right now,” Putin said at an investment forum in Moscow on Tuesday, when asked about Europe’s defensive buildup.

The remarks, which came before Putin met White House special envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner in Moscow, represented some of the most pointed criticism of Europe by the Russian leader as he seeks to fuel divisions in the trans-Atlantic alliance.

A senior NATO official dismissed Putin’s comments, saying that the alliance is united. Russia doesn’t have the troop numbers or military capability to defeat NATO in Europe, the official said.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/trump-envoys-to-meet-putin-to-push-u-s-peace-plan-for-ukraine-173ac10c?st=mWZHdm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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Irish_Dem

(78,483 posts)
1. Very doubtful Putin has the resources to fight all of Europe.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:08 PM
3 hrs ago

The Russian military and economy are in a bad way.

bluestarone

(20,912 posts)
14. Oh i agree 100% Problem i wonder about is, (never ever thought id worry about something like this)
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:04 PM
7 min ago

What wi'll TSF do? I fear he would support POOTY! I would just come apart if he did that!! (like i said, i never ever thought i'd worry about America doing something like that}

Irish_Dem

(78,483 posts)
16. Trump doesn't do anything unless it benefits him personally.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:10 PM
1 min ago

And if it doesn't cost him anything, or very little.

Putin doesn't have the resources to fight Europe.
Trump and the US military would have to do it all.

What would Trump get in return?

Trump also likes the British Royal Family, they have successfully worked him to favor the UK.
And Trump likes the romance and reputation of France, etc.

I don't see what Trump would get out of invading Europe for Putin.
And he would lose some things he likes a lot.

get the red out

(13,898 posts)
2. With what army?
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:08 PM
3 hrs ago

They had to borrow troops from N. Korea since they have lost so many of their own!

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,287 posts)
4. This is outright hilarious,
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:18 PM
2 hrs ago

Russia can't even take over a country, IE: Ukraine, which is right on their border, much less an armed and ready Europe, hell, Poland could probably put a severe hurtin on Russia.


Putin's trying to intimidate the Europeans and it's falling flat.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,325 posts)
5. Fuck him. He's the attacker, and he's behaving as if only he gets to dictate the peace terms
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:25 PM
2 hrs ago

I long for the day when he snuffs it. Preferably in as humiliating a way as possible, so his millions of Russian enablers are exposed as genocidal idiots who give humanity a bad name.

Russia needs fundamental reform more than just about anywhere in the world. Of the evil authoritarian countries, it's the one with most actual support for the dictator and his murderous policies among the populace who'd have a chance at changing things if they tried.

Bayard

(28,070 posts)
10. I have nukes! I have nukes!
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Be very afraid!

The rest of the world has played that game too long, and let him get away with it. Call his bluff. He invaded another country, and is trying to take it by force. The one thing I blame Obama for is letting Putin get away with taking Crimea. It just set a precedent. We will never see the end of his schemes if he is rewarded again this time.

Of course, the wild card is his protege.

Hey Joe

(335 posts)
6. Bullshit
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:29 PM
2 hrs ago

Russia has neither the manpower or equipment to have any chance of conquering Europe.
Who does Putin think he’s fooling?

LudwigPastorius

(13,920 posts)
8. Hey Putin, you belligerent asshole.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:34 PM
2 hrs ago

You'll never rebuild the USSR. The days after WWII of being an economic superpower are long gone.

The only thing propping your shithole country and its third rate army up are about 25 years of oil remaining and some aging nukes.

maxsolomon

(37,972 posts)
9. Playing the victim as always.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:36 PM
2 hrs ago

"Europe" will not attack Russia. Russia is a shithole and no one has any interest in "conquering" it.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,969 posts)
11. Yes, yes Vlad. We all know how tough you are.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:57 PM
2 hrs ago

We've seen your strength against Ukraine and we're all very impressed.
Why don't we give him Witkoff and Kushner as part of the peace plan. I'm under the notion they'll be spending a lot of time in Russia setting up their new businesses.

Botany

(76,037 posts)
12. Please Vlad pick a fight with the Swedish Air Force they just happen to have some of the best fighter, bombers,
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:07 PM
2 hrs ago

and bad ass jets in the world.

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