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BumRushDaShow

(164,141 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 03:34 PM Monday

Doctor explains why Trump underwent MRI during annual physical

Source: Scripps News

Posted 27 minutes ago


President Donald Trump’s doctor has released a memo explaining why an MRI was performed on the 79-year-old during his annual physical exam in October.

The memo says men in the president’s age group “benefit from a thorough evaluation of cardiovascular and abdominal health.” It adds that the imaging showed Trump is in excellent cardiovascular condition.

"President Trump's cardiovascular imaging is perfectly normal," Dr. Sean Barbabella said. "There is no evidence of arterial narrowing impairing blood flow or abnormalities in the heart or major vessels. The heart chambers are normal in size, the vessel walls appear smooth and healthy.

There are no signs of inflammation, or clotting." Barbabella also said the president’s abdominal imaging is “perfectly normal.”

Read more: https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/the-president/doctor-explains-why-trump-underwent-mri-during-annual-physical



This guy is an osteopathic doctor (D.O. vs M.D.).
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Doctor explains why Trump underwent MRI during annual physical (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
oh for osteopathic Tetrachloride Monday #1
Not neuro either. elleng Monday #70
No abnormalities in the heart? Jerry2144 Monday #2
Yeah, but what about his veins, Doctor? LudwigPastorius Monday #3
vascular dementia CountAllVotes Monday #8
Yes. They are carefully saying nothing about the brain. travelingthrulife 19 hrs ago #85
As A Cardiac ICU & Cath Lab RN... GB_RN Monday #14
Swollen ankles are listed as a possible side effect of amlodipine which is used to treat high blood pressure Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday #76
I've seen swollen lower extremities secondary to calcium-channel blocker medication treatment. Aristus 18 hrs ago #88
dr barbarella?? lapfog_1 Monday #4
I lolz MustLoveBeagles Monday #21
Beat me to it mdbl Monday #63
Ditto ! nt eppur_se_muova Yesterday #73
Pretty sure that an MRI is not a standard procedure for anyone who is 79 onenote Monday #5
I'll guess that POTUS can have whatever tests s/he wants. Most are done at Walter Reed erronis Monday #24
Yes. But the doctor described the MRI as "standard' -- a description I believe isn't accurate. onenote Monday #28
It's complete bullshit buzzycrumbhunger Monday #57
Donnie wouldn't know what an MRI is if the damn machine fell on him. paleotn Monday #51
More fractured fairy tales. Vinca Monday #6
I'd like to read more about the plaque buildup on trump's brain. Torchlight Monday #7
Anyone else say this is BS? vapor2 Monday #9
OF COURSE it's bullshit.... AZ8theist Monday #11
THIS. EuterpeThelo Monday #36
It reeks of BULLSHIT ! KS Toronado Monday #26
NOBODY dares to tell the truth when dealing with TSF!! bluestarone Monday #10
Reporter: "Governor Walz called for the release of your MRI results." sop Monday #12
I'm an MD, Board Certified bmbmd Monday #13
but 2 in one year? Native Monday #35
Kaiser patient here Nasruddin Monday #48
No problem having several ordered over years by 'group' I see, elleng Monday #71
Would you say this doctor's report carefully avoided mentioning certain things? yardwork 19 hrs ago #87
If thats true it is very surprising. drray23 Monday #15
Great! Now tell us why you can't show us the imaging JoseBalow Monday #16
What about the abdominal health part of the screening? Wicked Blue Monday #17
"But it was the most normal MRI I ever saw," added Dr. Barbabella. William Seger Monday #18
So . . . AverageOldGuy Monday #19
The doctor who signed this report should be sued by all of his Wiz Imp Monday #30
I've had several MRIs. barbtries Monday #33
I'm 77 and I've never had a doctor tell me I have to have an MRI. llmart Monday #66
The so-called results of the heart MRI are only part of the story. Grammy23 Monday #20
2 reasons for daytime sleepiness come to mind Dixiegrrrl 21 hrs ago #81
Either dump is the luckiest bastard in the world 🌎 MustLoveBeagles Monday #22
How about both? Wiz Imp Monday #31
Both . Katinfl Monday #47
So... GiqueCee Monday #23
Your noting his degree disparages many fine physicians Raven123 Monday #25
Thank you. I also was initially suspicious of DO's, as was a lot of the established medical community. erronis Monday #39
We have a good-sized Osteopathic College here in Philly that has been around for over 125 years BumRushDaShow Yesterday #77
Sure took a long time for the "answer" to come out. bronxiteforever Monday #27
i don't believe him. barbtries Monday #29
Well that settles that. twodogsbarking Monday #32
I would like to hear from the radiologist UpInArms Monday #34
This "doctor" is an emergency specialist. Wiz Imp Monday #41
Yes, osteopaths can and do specialize in radiology lonely bird Monday #64
Well, there is plenty of evidence of arterial flow problems in the doofas' brain... Trueblue Texan Monday #37
Doctors agree.. Playingmantis Monday #38
How we know this doctor is lying Wiz Imp Monday #40
2 questions: 1. Did he say it was the best MRI he had louis-t Monday #42
To be fair, a DO is still a fully trained doctor. AllyCat Monday #43
Sine his Dr. is an Osteo specialist, BidenRocks Monday #44
It's something else Nasruddin Monday #60
You might want to do a bit of research other than AI. Ms. Toad Yesterday #75
If there is no reason for this MRI, what bluestarone Monday #45
Cancels? Da fuck's wrong with yiz. He has weights on his ankles so's to build strength in his legs. 3Hotdogs Monday #46
We want the IMAGES. And a report from a RADIOLOGIST. nilram Monday #49
I am 88 and no doctor has ordered an MRI for me Sessuch Monday #50
They're all paid liars. IrishAfricanAmerican Monday #52
But what about his brain? You know where cerebral vascular accidents happen? Quick let us look @ his Botany Monday #53
And if you believe that ... ificandream Monday #54
Show us the data Old Crank Monday #55
Barbabella Sam I Yam Monday #56
You wonder Nasruddin Monday #58
With the way he eats no way Tree Lady Monday #59
I'm sceptical they even found a heart ♥. Nt Figarosmom Monday #61
You don't get to be in trumpworld by telling the truth. Turbineguy Monday #62
Liar lees1975 Monday #65
And there's a bridge in Brooklyn I have for sale... Ford_Prefect Monday #67
I think it's a bs release Lithos Monday #68
So how come Biden's doctors didn't run a similar MRI? My BS meter is pegging on this story. flashman13 Monday #69
The best family doctor, who was also the firm's medical director... littlemissmartypants Monday #72
Nothing wrong with a D.O. versus M.D. Ms. Toad Yesterday #74
Generally, MRI's are not part of a complete physical examination. no_hypocrisy 23 hrs ago #78
From experience, there is nothing "standard" about an MRI.. agingdem 23 hrs ago #79
Trump and his doctors disclosed during Trump's first term that he takes a statin Deminpenn 22 hrs ago #80
Anyone believe this? This reads like it was written by a Trump stooge. NT Happy Hoosier 21 hrs ago #82
Boy that lie was quick. ananda 21 hrs ago #83
I don't know about anyone else...but I sure believe it!! Scalded Nun 20 hrs ago #84
Seems like they would have ordered an MRA, magnetic resonance angiography to look at travelingthrulife 19 hrs ago #86
'Disconcerting': Ex-White House cardiologist deeply skeptical of 'weird' Trump MRI reveal LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #89
On the standard American diet... returnee 13 hrs ago #90

travelingthrulife

(4,026 posts)
85. Yes. They are carefully saying nothing about the brain.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:56 AM
19 hrs ago

My insurance company would never have payed for a 'surveillance MRI' WTF?

Where do they get these doctors to lie for them? He clearly had a stroke or else the right side of his face is sliding off.

GB_RN

(3,481 posts)
14. As A Cardiac ICU & Cath Lab RN...
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:34 PM
Monday

I can tell you that you don’t see that kind of lower extremity swelling without some kind of underlying condition. Given his known dietary preferences, it is highly unlikely that the underlying condition isn’t related to his heart. My guess would be (and it’s a guess, not a diagnosis as that’s illegal for me to do) right-side (aka diastolic) heart failure. When the right side can’t move blood out, over into the lungs to the left side, fluid backs up, and you get that edema you see in the picture.

The bruising on his hands is typical of someone taking a blood thinner like Coumadin (aka, warfarin): The 81mg dose of aspirin that we typically have cardiac patients take, shouldn’t cause that kind of bruising in the absence of some kind of clotting disorder or blood cancer affecting the platelets.

So, I call bullshit on everything that doc said.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(131,594 posts)
76. Swollen ankles are listed as a possible side effect of amlodipine which is used to treat high blood pressure
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:04 AM
Yesterday

among other things.

Side Effects
Common side effects of amlodipine may include:
Flushing (sudden warmth, redness, or tingly feeling)
Swelling of the legs or ankles
Dizziness or light-headedness
Fatigue
Serious side effects can occur, such as allergic reactions, worsening chest pain, or heart attack symptoms. It is important to seek medical attention if you experience severe side effects.


Though I should add I take it and have never experienced those symptoms.

Aristus

(71,411 posts)
88. I've seen swollen lower extremities secondary to calcium-channel blocker medication treatment.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:33 AM
18 hrs ago

I've never seen it as severe as with Trump. It looks more like congestive heart failure.

onenote

(45,903 posts)
5. Pretty sure that an MRI is not a standard procedure for anyone who is 79
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 03:45 PM
Monday

Would insurance cover an MRI ordered for an otherwise healthy 79 year old? I doubt it since, as I understand it, such a procedure has to be medically necessary for it to be covered.

erronis

(22,195 posts)
24. I'll guess that POTUS can have whatever tests s/he wants. Most are done at Walter Reed
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:30 PM
Monday

and are not covered (AFAIK) by Medicare or normal commercial health insurance.

onenote

(45,903 posts)
28. Yes. But the doctor described the MRI as "standard' -- a description I believe isn't accurate.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:40 PM
Monday

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,521 posts)
57. It's complete bullshit
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:59 PM
Monday

An MRI isn’t “routine” at any age. Even if it were, they certainly wouldn’t ignore that weird rootball bouncing around inside his skull. *eyeroll*

paleotn

(21,297 posts)
51. Donnie wouldn't know what an MRI is if the damn machine fell on him.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:42 PM
Monday

I doubt seriously if he asked for one.

Torchlight

(6,190 posts)
7. I'd like to read more about the plaque buildup on trump's brain.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 03:47 PM
Monday

He's not a healthy guy, it's not heresy to say as much and if someone tells me he's in perfect health., they'll need to supply the impartial evidence concluding as much, otherwise I'll continue assuming he's in Kay Granger-legislating-from-an-assisted-dementia-center territory at this time

AZ8theist

(7,006 posts)
11. OF COURSE it's bullshit....
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:17 PM
Monday

No 79 year old human with his diet would have a "perfectly normal" MRI of his vascular system.
By that age, everyone shows calcification of blood vessels. I'm 10 years younger with venious insufficiency as well, and I don't have a "perfectly normal" circulatory system.

More gaslighting of America.

EuterpeThelo

(151 posts)
36. THIS.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:49 PM
Monday

I'm 56 and been struggling with VI for eight years. When the weather is exceptionally hot or I sit too long, my ankles look like balloons.

KS Toronado

(22,402 posts)
26. It reeks of BULLSHIT !
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:38 PM
Monday

More of the same old shit..."He's the healthiest man on planet Earth"

bluestarone

(20,914 posts)
10. NOBODY dares to tell the truth when dealing with TSF!!
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 03:59 PM
Monday

He has a magic power over all these stupid BASTARDS!!

sop

(17,075 posts)
12. Reporter: "Governor Walz called for the release of your MRI results."
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:17 PM
Monday

Trump: "They were perfect like my phone call where I got impeached."

Reporter: "Can you tell us what they were looking at?"

Trump: "I have no idea. It was just an MRI. It wasn’t the brain because I took a cognitive test and aced it."

bmbmd

(3,105 posts)
13. I'm an MD, Board Certified
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:20 PM
Monday

in Internal Medicine, with forty-five years of practice behind me. I'm trying to stay viable for a few more years, so I have an annual appointment with my cardiologist, also board certified. I have had two cat scan angiograms, one in 2018 and one in January 0f 2025 which assured me of my continued good health, at least cardiac wise. I have not had an MRI of the heart, but they are readily available for patients in my area with established coronary atherosclerosis or more suspicious history and physical findings. I do not think it unusual that he underwent that particular procedure. There's obviously a ton of reliable information missing regarding his general health and visible deterioration, but this is the wrong tree to be barking up.

Nasruddin

(1,157 posts)
48. Kaiser patient here
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:40 PM
Monday

They guard their MRIs with the grit and ferocity of the French defending Paris in 1914.
If vultures aren't circling overhead, you are not getting one. Even then, they will stall.
And I have one of the best level plans with them you can get.

MRIs might be accessible to those with whatever is above platinum plans, but for normies, forget it.
Panama is nice this time of year, tho.

elleng

(141,812 posts)
71. No problem having several ordered over years by 'group' I see,
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:46 PM
Monday

requested by Johns Hopkins neuro. NO big deal.

(BRAIN scans.)

drray23

(8,555 posts)
15. If thats true it is very surprising.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:35 PM
Monday

Most adults in his age group have signs of arteriosclerosis. It's a normal part of aging. On top of this, Trump has aggravating factors such as a bad diet.

President Trump's cardiovascular imaging is perfectly normal," Dr. Sean Barbabella said. "There is no evidence of arterial narrowing impairing blood flow or abnormalities in the heart or major vessels. The heart chambers are normal in size, the vessel walls appear smooth and healthy.


This seems to indicate he is like a 20 yr old, not a 80 yr old.

There is tons of research in this area. For example,

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/HYPERTENSIONAHA.120.14515

Wicked Blue

(8,395 posts)
17. What about the abdominal health part of the screening?
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:47 PM
Monday

I don't see that mentioned in the article.

William Seger

(12,098 posts)
18. "But it was the most normal MRI I ever saw," added Dr. Barbabella.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:59 PM
Monday

At least, that's what #rump heard him say.

AverageOldGuy

(3,215 posts)
19. So . . .
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:09 PM
Monday
The memo says men in the president’s age group “benefit from a thorough evaluation of cardiovascular and abdominal health.”

I'll be 81 in two weeks. Never had an MRI. Should I change docs? sue my doc for malpractice?

Wiz Imp

(8,415 posts)
30. The doctor who signed this report should be sued by all of his
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:41 PM
Monday

patients. He is clearly lying. If he is willing to lie for Trump, I'd never believe a single word he told me about my health. Trump has multiple physical problems that are obvious to everyone. To try to pretend otherwise is absolute malpractice.

barbtries

(31,025 posts)
33. I've had several MRIs.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:43 PM
Monday

There was always an INDICATION for it.

they're lying. also want to reiterate that this was his SECOND annual physical this year. so yeah

llmart

(17,196 posts)
66. I'm 77 and I've never had a doctor tell me I have to have an MRI.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:12 PM
Monday

This is so much bullshit once again. Why does anyone even bother asking for information about him since it's always lies, lies, lies.

Grammy23

(6,081 posts)
20. The so-called results of the heart MRI are only part of the story.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:17 PM
Monday

And who can be sure any of it is accurate or truthful. But what about his brain? And why does he speak like someone with clear signs of dementia? If it isn’t that, what is causing some of the symptoms and changes in his language skills that we are seeing every time he opens his mouth? Oh, and just for grins and giggles, tell us why he has been seen numerous times at day time events where he is obviously sleeping, napping, winking out, whatever you want to call it? Do tell.

Dixiegrrrl

(167 posts)
81. 2 reasons for daytime sleepiness come to mind
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:45 AM
21 hrs ago

He is a known night owl who is infamous for 2 am phone calls.
And many meds can produce sleepiness. We don't know what he takes.
Dozing off in a roomful of people suggests meds, to me.

Since he wants to keep health issues so damn secret, I am ok with him being called Sleepy Don.




GiqueCee

(3,117 posts)
23. So...
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:27 PM
Monday

... why, given the irrefutable fact that the Orange Hellbeast does have a cardiovascular condition – ya don't get cankles like his without an underlying condition – wasn't the response delivered by the board-certified cardiologist that ordered the MRI? A cardiologist was involved in this exam, right? RIGHT?

Truth, to this confederacy of dunces, is like water to the Wicked Witch of the West.

Raven123

(7,357 posts)
25. Your noting his degree disparages many fine physicians
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:34 PM
Monday

Why do you note this? Personally and professionally, I know many M.D.s and D.O.s. There are good and bad among both. Please reconsider such comments

By the way, he trained at Portsmouth.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250623051106/https://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_edu.asp?License_No=0102050120

erronis

(22,195 posts)
39. Thank you. I also was initially suspicious of DO's, as was a lot of the established medical community.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:51 PM
Monday

I don't remember how the term "Doctor of Osteopathy" became a negative. Perhaps because I am so antipathetic to "woo" medicine and "osteopathic manipulation" seemed to fit that term. I'll remain firmly anti-homeopathy, etc., however.

But with what's happening in the US medical field today, I welcome disciplines that look more at the whole body rather than 15 minute sessions (10 of which are doing paperwork) that we are accustomed to.

My cardiologist doesn't want to look at my hematology/oncology results, and visa-versa. My PCP is nothing more than a gatekeeper/secretary who refers me on to much better paid specialists.

BumRushDaShow

(164,141 posts)
77. We have a good-sized Osteopathic College here in Philly that has been around for over 125 years
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:47 AM
Yesterday
Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine

I had been treated by someone in a Residency of that particular school when I was diagnosed with an ovarian cyst over 15 years ago (she was freaking out a bit but then she was still getting more experience and thankfully her fears were not realized).

But making the distinction is no different than a post that differentiates dentists who are DDSs vs DMDs. It all depends on what the school awards.

UpInArms

(53,828 posts)
34. I would like to hear from the radiologist
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:45 PM
Monday
Radiologists: The Diagnostic Experts

The physician who officially “reads” an MRI is a radiologist, who has completed extensive post-graduate medical training dedicated to imaging. This training includes four years of medical school, a one-year internship, and a four-year residency focused entirely on diagnostic radiology. During residency, the physician learns to interpret all types of medical images, including X-rays, CT scans, ultrasound, and MRI, across all body systems.

Radiologists are trained in pattern recognition, understanding disease processes, and correlating image findings with clinical symptoms. They must identify subtle changes in tissue signal intensity and morphology that indicate the presence of disease or injury. After residency, the radiologist must pass rigorous examinations to achieve board certification.

While many healthcare providers look at images, the radiologist is the only one legally responsible for generating the official diagnostic report. This formal document details the findings and suggests possible diagnoses, which is then transmitted to the ordering physician.

The written report is the definitive interpretation, guiding patient management and treatment planning. The radiologist functions as a diagnostic consultant to the medical team, utilizing comprehensive training in anatomy, physics, and pathology.


https://scienceinsights.org/who-can-read-an-mri-the-role-of-the-radiologist/

Not an osteopath

Wiz Imp

(8,415 posts)
41. This "doctor" is an emergency specialist.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:01 PM
Monday

I'm not going to believe anything about Trump's cardiovascular health which isn't coming directly from cardiologist. We all know he has vascular issues - we see his swollen cankles. He can't lie about that.

lonely bird

(2,653 posts)
64. Yes, osteopaths can and do specialize in radiology
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:22 PM
Monday

The differences between training for MDs and ODs is no longer a wide distinction.

There are DOs and MDs together in quality health systems such as University Hospitals in Cleveland.

Trueblue Texan

(4,086 posts)
37. Well, there is plenty of evidence of arterial flow problems in the doofas' brain...
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:49 PM
Monday

...and none of us needs an MRI to confirm it!

Wiz Imp

(8,415 posts)
40. How we know this doctor is lying
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:57 PM
Monday

First of all, every single previous doctor's report on Trump has clearly been a lie with the one doctor even admitting to it after the fact.

More importantly, though, as I found on the internet:

a doctor would likely order a cardiac MRI only if clinical evidence suggested a specific, potentially treatable, condition for which the detailed imaging was necessary to make a diagnosis or guide treatment, and not as a routine check-up for an apparently healthy individual.


A competent honest doctor would never order a cardiac MRI on a perfectly healthy 79 year old. MRIs come with risks, especially for people that old.

louis-t

(24,549 posts)
42. 2 questions: 1. Did he say it was the best MRI he had
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:03 PM
Monday

ever seen? 2. Was the doctor sweating while he lied through his teeth?

BidenRocks

(2,592 posts)
44. Sine his Dr. is an Osteo specialist,
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:22 PM
Monday

He should have ordered a CT Scan

A CT scan uses X-rays and is faster and better for viewing bone, while an MRI uses magnets and radio waves to provide more detailed images of soft tissues like ligaments, nerves, and organs. The choice depends on the condition; CT scans are often used for emergencies, bone fractures, or when a patient has metal implants, whereas MRIs are used for detailed soft tissue, ligament, or organ problems and avoid radiation. - Google AI

I would ask his doc if he would bet his license on his opinion of chumps overall health.

I didn't think so.

Our Dear Leader deserves a second opinion, just to be sure!

Nasruddin

(1,157 posts)
60. It's something else
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:04 PM
Monday

Dr is talking about the heart, but the imaging was the chest-abdo area.
Bile duct problems? Pancreas? Not sure what might be a good MRI subject. Something's up tho.

Ms. Toad

(38,032 posts)
75. You might want to do a bit of research other than AI.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:32 AM
Yesterday

Osteopaths are fully licensed physicians, just like M.D.s are. The last one I saw was a dermatologist. My internal medicine doctor is also an osteopathic physician.

bluestarone

(20,914 posts)
45. If there is no reason for this MRI, what
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:23 PM
Monday

Makes him so special above all Americans that he gets MRI whenever the fuck he wants one? They are ALL LYING BASTARDS!!

3Hotdogs

(14,868 posts)
46. Cancels? Da fuck's wrong with yiz. He has weights on his ankles so's to build strength in his legs.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Monday

nilram

(3,440 posts)
49. We want the IMAGES. And a report from a RADIOLOGIST.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:36 PM
Monday

And I'd be fine with just THE report from THE radiologist who read the images. (Really, the fewer pictures of TSF the better.)

Botany

(76,039 posts)
53. But what about his brain? You know where cerebral vascular accidents happen? Quick let us look @ his
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:46 PM
Monday

… his heart.

Lying motherfuckers..

"There is no evidence of arterial narrowing impairing blood flow or abnormalities in the heart or major vessels. The heart chambers are normal in size, the vessel walls appear smooth and healthy.

Nasruddin

(1,157 posts)
58. You wonder
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:03 PM
Monday

Why they are imaging the abdominal area, and then talking about the heart.

What might they be looking for?

Lithos

(26,597 posts)
68. I think it's a bs release
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:39 PM
Monday

CAVEAT: I'm not a Doctor.

What was not released is *why* they did this test. Sometimes an MRI is used to determine brain structure to show atrophy patterns, strokes, etc. Sometimes they add an MRA (arterial version) to see if there are clots or other arterial issues that could be causing dementia. Sometimes they add an MRV to test for outflow issues, which are sometimes associated with some dementia conditions.

Ie, they use an MRI when other tests or symptoms are present, and they are looking for an answer. It's not the primary go-to diagnostic device.

littlemissmartypants

(31,010 posts)
72. The best family doctor, who was also the firm's medical director...
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:48 PM
Monday

That I ever had care for me is a currently retired D.O. I will never find anyone who can replace her. Believe me, I've tried for ten years.

I don't know why they get a bad rap. They actually get the exact same training as M.D.'s but get additional training, use a "whole body" approach (as opposed to piecemeal specialized skills), and focus more on wellness and disease prevention.

I worked with countless doctors as a DCP in a highly specialized field and most of the M.D. variety who I met were literally pompous assh*les most of the time. (Which is usually a symptom of insecurity.)

After working thirty years in the business of so-called health care and as a patient, I remain unimpressed by most of the M.D. variety whose paths I have crossed.

Ms. Toad

(38,032 posts)
74. Nothing wrong with a D.O. versus M.D.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:28 AM
Yesterday

The last D.O. who treated me personally was a board certified dermatologist, employed by the Cleveland Clinic. She is not the only one (either employed by the Cleveland Clinic, or by whom I have been treated personally).

Feel free to slam a D.O. (or an M.D.) because their statements and actions indicate they aren't qualified to be a physician - but the path they chose to become a licensed physician is irrelevant to their competence. Many people prefer to be treated by a D.O., because their training makes them more inclined to take a holistic approach to medicine as opposed to treating isolated body parts.

no_hypocrisy

(53,941 posts)
78. Generally, MRI's are not part of a complete physical examination.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:16 AM
23 hrs ago

This test is generally ordered when there is a suspicion of something wrong with a system, e.g., cardiovascular.

Think about your own protocol with your physician. You get blood studies, maybe a chest x-ray (not so much these days), an EKG (cardiogram), a stress test when you're older, etc. But not an MRI if your evaluation reveals nothing serious.

agingdem

(8,728 posts)
79. From experience, there is nothing "standard" about an MRI..
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:37 AM
23 hrs ago

symptoms/physiological anomalies warrant an MRI….the vindictive piece of shit supposedly had two MRI’s (head/abdomen).. so where are the reports from the neurologist and gastroenterologist?..no offense to DO’s but President Schmuck isn’t exactly the average guy waiting in line at Urgent Care ..

Deminpenn

(17,206 posts)
80. Trump and his doctors disclosed during Trump's first term that he takes a statin
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:19 AM
22 hrs ago

for high cholesterol. That fact alone means he is not in "perfect" cardiovascular health. The noticeably swollen ankles forced another disclosure of "veinous insufficiency' another indication of imperfect cardiovascular health.

Fluid/blood doesn't pool in your lower legs if your heart and vascular system are working normally. You don't just nod off, either, if enough blood is getting to your brain.

ananda

(34,147 posts)
83. Boy that lie was quick.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 08:36 AM
21 hrs ago

They are really good with the lies,
but they are easy to see through.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,407 posts)
89. 'Disconcerting': Ex-White House cardiologist deeply skeptical of 'weird' Trump MRI reveal
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:49 AM
17 hrs ago

These MRI results are sketchy

'Disconcerting': Ex-White House cardiologist deeply skeptical of  'weird' Trump MRI reveal

www.rawstory.com/donald-trump...

Morgan Fairchild (@morgfair.bsky.social) 2025-12-02T03:51:21.667Z

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-mri-under-question/

A former Bush administration cardiologist questioned the Trump administration over its report Monday that the president is in "excellent health."

Dr. Jonathan Reiner, the late former Vice President Dick Cheney's cardiologist for nearly 30 years, pushed back on White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt's claims that President Donald Trump's MRI was apparently "preventative" during an interview with CNN.

"Well, there really is no preventative cardiac MRI," Reiner said. "This is not a standard test for, you know, an 80-year-old man to undergo advanced imaging. Of course, the whole note has kind of a weird, defensive, you know, evasive tone to it. First of all, this is not part of the president's comprehensive physical examination."....

"He had that in April, and then he underwent some more testing in July," Reiner said. "If you look at his first administration, the president, like most presidents, only underwent one comprehensive physical exam every year. So this comes completely off-cycle. Second, it's filled with euphemisms. Again, Dr. Barbara Bell, the president's physician, states that he underwent advanced imaging. Well, what specific advanced imaging did the president have? Was it an MRI, as the president said? Was it a CT [scan]? Did he have both? Why not just spell it out?"

Reiner explained how the administration could have his doctor or health official describe what happened.

"It's as if a patient came in for a chest x-ray, and then I only told people that the patient underwent simple radiologic imaging. Just, you know, just spell it out," he added. "This is, again, not part of a comprehensive screening, particularly, you know, abdominal imaging. Why would someone undergo a preventive, quote, preventative MRI imaging or CT imaging of the abdomen? This obviously was performed in response to some clinical concern, which is fine."

The MRI could have been out of a health concern — and the American people deserve to know that, Reiner explained.

"Things happen to people as, you know, as we all get older. And the president is almost 80. So instead of this kind of evasive, almost laughable kind of note. Just spell out what happened. I hope the imaging is normal and great. That would be excellent news. But this kind of piece-by-piece, drip-by-drip release of information is disconcerting," Reiner said.


returnee

(766 posts)
90. On the standard American diet...
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:42 PM
13 hrs ago

….heart disease begins at a young age. Given that TSF’s diet is probably worse than standard there’s little change he has zero signs of heart disease. I don’t refer to him as The Sick Fuck for just his mental status.

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