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riversedge

(78,830 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 08:00 AM 19 hrs ago

Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons

Source: abc



President Donald Trump is facing new scrutiny over the use of a replicated signature on several recent pardons

JIM MUSTIAN BRIAN SLODYSKO MATT BROWN November 14, 2025, 7:51 PM


WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department posted pardons online bearing identical copies of President Donald Trump’s signature before quietly correcting them this week after what the agency called a “technical error.”

The replacements came after online commenters seized on striking similarities in the president's signature across a series of pardons dated Nov. 7, including those granted to former New York Mets player Darryl Strawberry, former Tennessee House speaker Glen Casada and former New York police sergeant Michael McMahon. In fact, the signatures on several pardons initially uploaded to the Justice Department's website were identical, two forensic document experts confirmed to The Associated Press.

Within hours of the online speculation, the administration replaced copies of the pardons with new ones that did not feature identical signatures. It insisted Trump, who mercilessly mocked his predecessor’s use of an autopen, had originally signed all the Nov. 7 pardons himself and blamed “technical” and staffing issues for the error, which has no bearing on the validity of the clemency actions.
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“A basic axiom of handwriting identification science is that no two signatures are going to bear the exact same design features in every aspect,” said Tom Vastrick, a Florida-based handwriting expert who is president of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners. ..........................

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/justice-department-quietly-replaced-identical-trump-signatures-recent-127542346



More White House denials at story link




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Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons (Original Post) riversedge 19 hrs ago OP
His signature looks like a Klan rally underpants 19 hrs ago #1
What a perfect description!.....n/t Dixiegrrrl 18 hrs ago #3
I used to scribble like that... WestMichRad 17 hrs ago #4
Auto-Pen?......................... Lovie777 19 hrs ago #2
For sure, who hasn't had technical and staffing issues ToxMarz 17 hrs ago #5
And, again I say we do this every time such things happen. OldBaldy1701E 17 hrs ago #6
Of course he's used an autopen or e-signature. LisaM 17 hrs ago #7
It's just Just Jerome 17 hrs ago #8
I mentioned in a thread yesterday odins folly 17 hrs ago #9
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg 17 hrs ago #10
Oh, so he personally signed 1500 pardons on Jan. 21, 2025. Trueblue Texan 16 hrs ago #11
Indeed. Even if each signature took only 10 seconds, 1500 signatures would take... 3catwoman3 16 hrs ago #13
He might enjoy that... travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #15
So they now have a menu of six different versions for autopen to choose from fargone 16 hrs ago #12
This DOJ is 'functioning' completely outside of the rule of law. travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #14
Auto pen.... traveler50 16 hrs ago #16
What technical error could put the wrong signature on a document? Norrrm 16 hrs ago #17
What strikes me..... RussBLib 15 hrs ago #18
Did you use auto-pen, hypocrites. republianmushroom 15 hrs ago #19
Was it by autopen? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 14 hrs ago #20

ToxMarz

(2,610 posts)
5. For sure, who hasn't had technical and staffing issues
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:21 AM
17 hrs ago

affect their signature. Happens all the time. The Sharpie is a very technical and staff intensive machine.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,526 posts)
6. And, again I say we do this every time such things happen.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:23 AM
17 hrs ago


Don't even wait for him to start speaking. Just start laughing at him the moment he appears anywhere. Same with his cronies. If Miller, or Vance, or Rubio, or Johnson appears, just start pointing and laughing at them. Loudly.

LisaM

(29,423 posts)
7. Of course he's used an autopen or e-signature.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
17 hrs ago

First, he always projects on others what he does himself, and second, it would be very unusual for anyone who is in charge of a large organization to personally sign everything themselves.

odins folly

(496 posts)
9. I mentioned in a thread yesterday
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:57 AM
17 hrs ago

And will anyone be surprised that after he is gone, all the signatures on all of the pardons will all be identical…..

3catwoman3

(28,142 posts)
13. Indeed. Even if each signature took only 10 seconds, 1500 signatures would take...
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 10:20 AM
16 hrs ago

...15,000 seconds, which is 250 minutes, which is 4.16666667 hours. No way he would have had the attention span to sign his name for 4+ hours.

travelingthrulife

(3,795 posts)
14. This DOJ is 'functioning' completely outside of the rule of law.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 10:22 AM
16 hrs ago

No wonder Donnie Boy didn't know anything about one of the last guys he pardoned. Stephen Miller's probably been wielding the autopen.

traveler50

(17 posts)
16. Auto pen....
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 10:51 AM
16 hrs ago

Does anyone really believe that he signed the 1600 pardons he gave in one day for the January 6th insurrection.

RussBLib

(10,348 posts)
18. What strikes me.....
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 11:24 AM
15 hrs ago

...is the "Sincerely" part. There is nothing sincere about this lying POS.

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