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BumRushDaShow

(163,320 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:50 AM Thursday

Al Gore wonders if 'bullying' Trump prompted Bill Gates to backtrack on climate

Source: The Guardian

Wed 12 Nov 2025 16.05 EST
Last modified on Wed 12 Nov 2025 16.10 EST


Fear of being bullied by Donald Trump may have prompted Bill Gates to row back on the climate crisis, Al Gore has speculated, as he slammed the billionaire’s new position as “silly”, and the US president for his anti-climate stance. Trump, “the most corrupt president in American history”, was “badly damaging the US economy” by pulling away from renewable energy and promoting fossil fuels, the former US vice-president warned.

“[Trump’s] already doing a lot of damage [on the climate],” Gore said, in an interview with the Guardian at the Cop30 United Nations climate summit in Belém, Brazil. “Maybe the biggest harm he’s doing is to the United States itself, and one figure now illustrates it. China is now exporting green technology to the rest of the world that has a cumulative export value that is significantly higher than all of the fossil fuel exports from the United States to the rest of the world. And that trend is obviously accelerating quite dramatically.”

Gates, a philanthropist and founder of Microsoft, made waves around the world when he publicly argued for pushing the climate crisis down the international agenda, in favour of more focus on health issues.

“The idea of slowing down on climate again, every climate scientist that I know and respect just threw up their hands and said: ‘What in the world is he thinking?’” said Gore. “When Trump was elected the second time, Bill fired most of his climate staffers and went to the White House and lavished praise on Trump, and then put out this series of statements last week that puzzled anybody who was really concerned about the climate crisis.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/12/al-gore-cop30-climate

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Al Gore wonders if 'bullying' Trump prompted Bill Gates to backtrack on climate (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Thursday OP
Happy to send this to Greatest. Gore is probably right, Gates probably got into line with the rest of the oligarchs. raccoon Thursday #1
I wondered about Gates' opinion change myself, he used to speak out Rhiannon12866 Thursday #2
He got all the rich guys in his pocket Anxy Thursday #3
Trump knows that markodochartaigh Thursday #4
Swift kick and rec... halobeam Thursday #5
Yeah...and a Gates divorce with one of the problems being Epstein Bengus81 Thursday #6
If rumors are true, Prairie_Seagull Thursday #8
No rumors about it, it/was is well known knowledge. Here it is......... Bengus81 Thursday #12
Didn't pay attention other just heaing they divoirced electric_blue68 Thursday #18
My screen name is all about the rage Delarage Thursday #7
"I met him in Philadelphia at a book signing" BumRushDaShow Thursday #10
I still think of how things might have been had Al been President. hamsterjill Thursday #16
Epstein files? I suspect a lot of the richest are being blackmailed by Trump. LiberalArkie Thursday #9
More money than Moses and bullied by a make-up splattered con-man Mysterian Thursday #11
Al Gore is very, very smart. I learn from smart people. twodogsbarking Thursday #13
Gates has not backtracked on climate. Gates has always focused on global health. This framing is ridiculous. mathematic Thursday #14
Let's all say it together: If only Al Gore had become president Bayard Thursday #15
I think Bill Gates started seeing things differently after his divorce FakeNoose Thursday #17

raccoon

(32,137 posts)
1. Happy to send this to Greatest. Gore is probably right, Gates probably got into line with the rest of the oligarchs.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:16 AM
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markodochartaigh

(4,636 posts)
4. Trump knows that
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:27 AM
Thursday

if he can control an oiligarch's wallet, he can lead that oiligarch around like a bull with a nose ring.

halobeam

(5,077 posts)
5. Swift kick and rec...
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:21 AM
Thursday

For our climate, and for the ultimate respect I hold for Al Gore. He's a true warrior for the health of our planet.

I'm so glad to hear him speak out, and not mince words!

Bengus81

(9,584 posts)
12. No rumors about it, it/was is well known knowledge. Here it is.........
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 09:02 AM
Thursday

Expressed discomfort: Melinda Gates first expressed discomfort with Bill's meetings with Epstein in 2013.

Continued meetings: Despite her concerns, Bill Gates continued to meet with Epstein.

Divorce proceedings: The public knowledge of Bill's relationship with Epstein in 2019 was a major factor in Melinda hiring divorce lawyers, which set the process for their split in motion.

Public statements: Following the divorce announcement, Bill Gates admitted it was a "huge mistake" to spend time with Epstein and give him credibility.

Delarage

(2,502 posts)
7. My screen name is all about the rage
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:43 AM
Thursday

...in Delaware...about President Gore being denied his office by the criminals in Florida and the Republican-controlled Supreme Court. It was a foreshadowing of all the current evil we are living through. I met him in Philadelphia at a book signing and said "Thank you, Mr. President!" and he smiled. Great guy!

BumRushDaShow

(163,320 posts)
10. "I met him in Philadelphia at a book signing"
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 08:39 AM
Thursday

I also saw him here in Philly. He was the every first "top elected official" that I got to see "in person", and it was by happenstance...

Back in 1993, Philly was opening the new PA Convention Center (that was replacing the old Civic Center), and my mom wanted to go downtown to see it. I took her down there and we discovered that they were having the ribbon-cutting ceremony for it that day and (newly elected) VP Al Gore was doing the honors. So as we approached where the stage was, we stopped and stayed back when we saw a sign with an arrow that said "VIP" posted in front of a cattle chute barrier leading to the front of the stage. Suddenly some of the staff in the crowd hustled us into a line and through the chute, and we ended up standing about 10ft from the stage to watch the ceremony up close and personal. LOL Pretty exciting!

I just found a old article about that ceremony from 1993 (updated in 2021) - https://www.mcall.com/1993/06/27/philly-glows-for-opening-new-convention-hall-called-symbol-of-revitalization/

hamsterjill

(16,835 posts)
16. I still think of how things might have been had Al been President.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:23 AM
Thursday

It breaks my heart how he was treated, and we as a nation lost so much by not having him.

Epstein's emails indicated he didn't know Al Gore, and that should come as no surprise to anyone. All is indeed a great guy. Grounded, moral and compassionate.

LiberalArkie

(19,119 posts)
9. Epstein files? I suspect a lot of the richest are being blackmailed by Trump.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 08:35 AM
Thursday

Too big of an attitude swing.. Think back on Lindsey Graham very sudden change to being Trumps friend.

Mysterian

(6,070 posts)
11. More money than Moses and bullied by a make-up splattered con-man
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 08:40 AM
Thursday

If true, speaks ill of Gates' character.

mathematic

(1,598 posts)
14. Gates has not backtracked on climate. Gates has always focused on global health. This framing is ridiculous.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 10:52 AM
Thursday

The idea that solving climate change would solve global health problems is FLAT WRONG. In fact relationship between climate change, its impacts on global health, and poverty is the opposite of what this commentary suggests. Alleviating poverty by improving childhood health NOW and infrastructure development NOW will result in societies that have the capability to reduce climate change related health consequences in the future. With the "added benefit" (actually: primary goal) of reducing negative health outcomes overall. On the other hand, effort spent combating climate change instead of improving global health does nothing to solve global health issues that have nothing to do with the climate change.

People in developed countries see climate change as a risk in a way they don't see poverty and disease in Africa as a risk. And why not, I suppose? One affects them and the other doesn't. No, it's not wrong for Gates to prioritize global health, it's just different.

Bayard

(27,787 posts)
15. Let's all say it together: If only Al Gore had become president
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:11 AM
Thursday

Climate change remediation would have been a top priority, and we'd probably have been spared people like trump.

FakeNoose

(39,493 posts)
17. I think Bill Gates started seeing things differently after his divorce
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:32 AM
Thursday

When Bill and Melinda Gates separated and then divorced in 2021, his "nest egg" was basically cut in half. Even though they both are committed to "giving back" through their foundations, Bill had control over fewer funds than before and he is interested in medical research and health issues. It's possible that Melinda might continue to fund climate research, but I don't really know.

If Chump has been bullying Bill Gates, maybe it's because his name is on the passenger lists of the Lolita Express? Apparently Bill did fly down to Epstein's Island several years ago ... but how would Chump know that? Unless he has access to the Epstein evidence that is currently in the hands of the DoJ.

Hmmmm....

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