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highplainsdem

(59,021 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:51 PM Wednesday

DOJ drafts legal opinion backing immunity for US troops involved in boat strikes, sources say

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Source: Reuters

The Justice Department has provided a legal justification that makes clear that U.S. military personnel involved in strikes against suspected drug-trafficking vessels are immune from prosecution, three sources told Reuters on Wednesday.

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A source familiar with the matter, who was speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel had drawn up a classified legal opinion.

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In a statement, a Justice Department spokesperson said the strikes were "consistent with the laws of armed conflict, and as such are lawful orders."

"Military personnel are legally obligated to follow lawful orders and, as such, are not subject to prosecution for following lawful orders," the spokesperson added.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doj-drafts-legal-opinion-backing-immunity-us-troops-involved-boat-strikes-2025-11-12/

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DOJ drafts legal opinion backing immunity for US troops involved in boat strikes, sources say (Original Post) highplainsdem Wednesday OP
What if they're illegal orders to just murder people at whim? ananda Wednesday #1
Think of Nuremburg NotHardly Wednesday #2
This doesn't seem to me to be a clear cut "black and white" issue.... anciano Wednesday #3
Would they need immunity if it was legal ? Deuxcents Wednesday #4
Obviously the DOJ knows it is not Bayard Thursday #5
After alert to hosts, locking. Emile Thursday #6

ananda

(33,987 posts)
1. What if they're illegal orders to just murder people at whim?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:54 PM
Wednesday

???

NotHardly

(2,249 posts)
2. Think of Nuremburg
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:01 PM
Wednesday

Imagine how surprised they will be that it works as well as Hitler telling his Nazis they'll be OK if they are ever tried for war crimes.

NOTE: On October 1, 1946, the verdicts on 22 of the original 24 defendants were handed down for the Nuremberg trials. Three of the defendants were acquitted. Four were convicted and sentenced to terms of imprisonment ranging from 10 to 20 years. Three were sentenced to life imprisonment. Twelve of the defendants were sentenced to death by hanging.

2nd Note: Twelve of the Nuremberg defendants were sentenced to death by hanging. Ten of them—Hans Frank, Wilhelm Frick, Julius Streicher, Alfred Rosenberg, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Joachim von Ribbentrop, Fritz Sauckel, Alfred Jodl, Wilhelm Keitel, and Arthur Seyss-Inquart—were hanged on October 16, 1946. Martin Bormann was tried and condemned to death in absentia, and Hermann Göring committed suicide by swallowing a cyanide capsule before he could be executed.

anciano

(2,021 posts)
3. This doesn't seem to me to be a clear cut "black and white" issue....
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:40 PM
Wednesday

it's murky at best. Military personnel often have to carry out orders with limited facts and little, if any, knowledge of intelligence assessments. So unless what they are being ordered to do is clearly and blatantly unreasonable and illegal at their level of knowledge, then IMO immunity makes sense.

Deuxcents

(24,780 posts)
4. Would they need immunity if it was legal ?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:01 PM
Wednesday

Bayard

(27,787 posts)
5. Obviously the DOJ knows it is not
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:18 AM
Thursday

Emile

(39,145 posts)
6. After alert to hosts, locking.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:04 PM
Thursday

This is a duplicate of the same news story posted earlier.

Dupe of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143564113

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