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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:12 PM Tuesday

US Catholic bishops double down on conservative bent with election of new leader Paul Coakley

Source: The Independent

Tuesday 11 November 2025 15:01 EST


U.S. Catholic bishops have elected Oklahoma City Archbishop Paul Coakley as their new president, choosing a conservative culture warrior to lead during President Donald Trump’s second term. The vote acts as a barometer for the bishops’ priorities. In choosing Coakley, they doubled down on their conservative bent, even as they push for more humane immigration policies from the Trump administration.

Coakley was seen as a strong contender for the top post, having already been elected in 2022 to serve as secretary, the No. 3 conference official. In three rounds of voting, he beat out centrist candidate Bishop Daniel Flores of Brownsville, Texas, who was subsequently elected vice president.

Coakley serves as adviser to the Napa Institute, an association for conservative Catholic powerbrokers. In 2018, he publicly supported an ardent critic of Pope Francis, Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, who was later excommunicated for stances that were deemed divisive.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has often been at odds with the Vatican and the inclusive, modernizing approach of the late Pope Francis. His U.S.-born successor, Pope Leo XIV, is continuing a similar pastoral emphasis on marginalized people, poverty and the environment.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/archbishop-paul-coakley-catholic-bishops-president-b2863246.html

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Lord have mercy. ancianita Tuesday #1
Pope Leo should ex-communicate BlueKota Tuesday #2
seriously? jaymac Wednesday #4
And full of the Benedictine nuns orangecrush Wednesday #6
Yes, I well know about the negative history associated with the Catholic Church! BlueKota Wednesday #9
Praying for this orangecrush Wednesday #7
Hoping more people will listen to what the Pope BlueKota Wednesday #10
Fuck every last one of them as far as Im johnnyfins Wednesday #3
Catholic here orangecrush Wednesday #5
"Pope Leo XIV, is continuing a similar pastoral emphasis on marginalized people, poverty and the environment." mdbl Wednesday #8
I have met both kinds of clergy in my history with the church. BlueKota Wednesday #11
When I went to Catholic School, most of the nuns and priest smoked mdbl Wednesday #12
I don't know. BlueKota Wednesday #13

ancianita

(42,578 posts)
1. Lord have mercy.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:22 PM
Tuesday

Happy to know that Pope Leo XIV is carrying on where Pope Francis left off, and the USCCB knows that Jesus never ever went in for hierarchy.

BlueKota

(4,904 posts)
2. Pope Leo should ex-communicate
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:58 PM
Tuesday

all of them. They can go start a religion honoring tsf because they clearly follow him and not the teachings of Jesus.

jaymac

(116 posts)
4. seriously?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:28 AM
Wednesday

What else did you expect from the Catholics? Remember Dolan? And Bernard Law who protected pedophiles. The church is full of those nasty men.

BlueKota

(4,904 posts)
9. Yes, I well know about the negative history associated with the Catholic Church!
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:36 AM
Wednesday

I actually experienced the bad side, but also the good side, being raised Catholic. Catholics are not one size fits all, just like not all people of any race or creed are interchangeable. Pope Leo, has the ability to make some reforms. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, but at least so far he's been speaking out to remind the American Bishops that their mission is to serve those in need, and not the christian nationalist movement. I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt for now.

Just like not all Americans are brainwashed followers of tsf, not all American Catholics are lock step followers of the Conservative wing of the the church.

orangecrush

(27,582 posts)
5. Catholic here
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:10 AM
Wednesday

Good Catholics have been targeted by this group of nazis - which is exactly what the hell they are.

I've seen it personally.

Thee are some very progressive groups in the church, and some of these have told the Nazi bishops to go pound sand.

mdbl

(7,768 posts)
8. "Pope Leo XIV, is continuing a similar pastoral emphasis on marginalized people, poverty and the environment."
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:51 AM
Wednesday

So the fact that this "new" Bishop President being conservative means he's for the rich, and also doesn't care about clean air or water?

BlueKota

(4,904 posts)
11. I have met both kinds of clergy in my history with the church.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:51 AM
Wednesday

Both the greedy, self righteous, cruel ones, and those who actually would give others the proverbial shirt of their backs.

mdbl

(7,768 posts)
12. When I went to Catholic School, most of the nuns and priest smoked
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:02 PM
Wednesday

I wonder if it's different today.

BlueKota

(4,904 posts)
13. I don't know.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:07 PM
Wednesday

My guess is probably some of them do. When I was in Catholic School back in the 1960s and 70s, I didn't ever see any of them smoke, but I guess some probably did just never in front of us.

Also I never heard anything about accusations in our particular parrish about pedophilia, but there were cases in the larger cities of our diocese. There were rumors about some of the priests having affairs with some of the nuns, and at least one priest was rumored to be secretly married, and that he and his wife had children.

My school was more into child beating and berating us, in the name of making us humble. They didn't realize there was a difference between narcissistic pride, and the basic self esteem needed to succeed and survive.

Those things being said I also met some priests and nuns along the way who were kind and nurturing, and did their level best to try and undo a lot of the damage that was caused. They were almost exclusively ones that were ordained or took their final vows after Vatican II. Those are the ones who are the reason, why I still have any remaining faith in the Catholic Church even though I am no longer an active member. Those types do not deserve to be lumped in with the hypocrites and tarred and feathered with the same brush as the Dolan crowd.

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