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highplainsdem

(59,027 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:08 AM Monday

Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani, other key figures allegedly involved in efforts to overturn the 2020 election

Source: ABC

President Donald Trump issued a sweeping pardon to key figures allegedly involved in the plan to arrange an alternate slate of electors and "expose voting fraud" during the 2020 election, according to U.S. Pardon Attorney Ed Martin.

Trump pardoned high-profile individuals allegedly involved in his attempt to overturn the election, including Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Boris Epshteyn, John Eastman and Mark Meadows -- and 72 other individuals allegedly associated with the effort to challenge the 2020 election results.

The pardon, which Trump appears to have signed on Friday, covers each of the president's co-defendants who were charged in Georgia for a sweeping scheme to overturn election results.

Four of the pardon recipients pleaded guilty in the Georgia case.

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Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pardons-rudy-giuliani-key-figures-involved-efforts/story?id=127367541



Important comments from Bluesky:

But…those are state charges. They were never federally charged. Nor could they be even if we win in 2028 because the statute of limitations will have expired. But okay.

Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2025-11-10T05:25:51.819Z



Maybe this is a signal to future election criminals that they’ll be pardoned, too?

Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2025-11-10T05:29:41.339Z



And there's a long thread from Anna Bower starting here:

Trump’s pardon attorney Ed Martin claims Trump is pardoning his Georgia co-defendants and other “alternate electors.”

Note: Trump’s Georgia co-defendants are charged under state law. The president can’t pardon people for state crimes.

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T04:44:56.003Z
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Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani, other key figures allegedly involved in efforts to overturn the 2020 election (Original Post) highplainsdem Monday OP
Is he planning to be out of office soon? Blasphemer Monday #1
I guess he's afraid he'll stroke out any minute. SunSeeker Monday #2
Dictator did what? orangecrush Monday #3
Oh, come on!!! He's already let thousands of criminals back on the streets to commit more crimes Rhiannon12866 Monday #4
So now... 2naSalit Monday #5
Doesn't restrict state charges. nt moniss Monday #6
Geez, what took him so long? WestMichRad Monday #7
Am I too cynical because my reaction is what took him so long? Munu Monday #8
Maybe somebody's trying to make him "feel" better. Buddyzbuddy Monday #9
So, he personally signed every one of those pardons? sinkingfeeling Monday #10
Otto-pen, signed in slobber JustABozoOnThisBus Monday #12
Two observations AverageOldGuy Monday #11
the rule of law no longer applies in fascist America Botany Monday #13
So what? Orrex Monday #14
The Pardon Parade gfarber Monday #15
Rudes must've finally scraped together enough scratch to buy an indulgence. Hugin Monday #16
Mark Meadows again. I have the Cat Stevens song about him: DFW Monday #17
Who cares? I'm waiting for the Ghislaine Maxwell, pardon/commutation. Ray Bruns Monday #18
Did the convicted felon use Autopen republianmushroom Monday #19
trump pardons the Jan. 6th traitors, and people like, Giuliani Bayard Monday #20
Unless they're jailed, traitors keep trying until they succeed. Kid Berwyn Monday #21
Did he personally sign each pardon? Owens Monday #22
Has he paid Giuliani the money he owes him? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #23
I wonder... jmowreader Monday #24

Rhiannon12866

(247,023 posts)
4. Oh, come on!!! He's already let thousands of criminals back on the streets to commit more crimes
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:36 AM
Monday

I'm waiting for the day when he tries pardoning himself, the lead criminal...

2naSalit

(98,926 posts)
5. So now...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:16 AM
Monday

He thinks he can pardon people for state felonies, he has no jurisdiction to do this but he's off in fantasyland so be prepared for more of this stupid shit.

Munu

(13 posts)
8. Am I too cynical because my reaction is what took him so long?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:24 AM
Monday

Or just the right amount of cynical because it is Trump after all?
Maybe he wanted them to sweat a little so they'd be more grateful.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,907 posts)
9. Maybe somebody's trying to make him "feel" better.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:31 AM
Monday

Trying to distract him like you would a child. It doesn't matter if they aren't really Pardoned. Has anybody checked the list for Maxwell's name?

AverageOldGuy

(3,160 posts)
11. Two observations
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:45 AM
Monday

1. As heinous as these pardons are, they don't change the outcome of the 2020 election.

2. The fact of these pardons further shows that Trump and Company have ever intention of rigging the 2026 and 2028 elections.

Remember -- Trump told an audience during the 2024 campaign "Vote this year and you won't have to vote ever again."

gfarber

(154 posts)
15. The Pardon Parade
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:51 AM
Monday


A president fond of the grand,
Decreed with a flourish of hand,
“Forgive all my crew,
The red, white, and true—
Except me (for now), understand?”

Said Rudy, with a grin slightly wan,
“I knew Don would right every wrong!”
Though charged he was not,
He still liked the spot—
A pardon looks good in a song.

Mark Meadows, with cautious delight,
Declared, “I was never indicted, right?”
But he’ll frame that decree,
Hang it up by the tree,
And toast to the boss every night.

Powell and Eastman and Clark,
Lit sparks in the post-vote dark.
They plotted and pled,
While facts quietly bled—
Now pardoned, they stroll in the park.

The electors who claimed they were real,
Signed papers with counterfeit zeal.
They’re free from D.C.,
But the states disagree—
So justice still clings to their heel.

Poor Tina’s still locked in her cell,
Her breach didn’t go over well.
“Hero!” said Don,
As the judge droned on—
Nine years till Peters rings her next bell.

Said Martin, with bureaucrat grace,
“I’ve posted the list—four-page space!”
“Where’s Tina?” one cried,
He calmly replied,
“We’re working that case—watch this place.”

When Trump’s second term’s nearly gone,
He’ll muse as the cameras are on:
“I pardoned my friends,
But before this all ends—
Perhaps I should give me one.”

Bayard

(27,794 posts)
20. trump pardons the Jan. 6th traitors, and people like, Giuliani
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:50 PM
Monday

His partners in crime.

President Biden gave pre-emptive pardons to Dr. Fauci and Gen. Milley. He commuted the sentence of Leonard Peltier.

Let us compare and contrast.

Kid Berwyn

(22,297 posts)
21. Unless they're jailed, traitors keep trying until they succeed.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:59 PM
Monday

As they work to undermine the Constitution of the United States, they are traitors.

jmowreader

(52,783 posts)
24. I wonder...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:29 PM
Monday

I think we've already determined that Trump can't issue pardons that actually pardon anyone in this case because the charges are state-level and presidents can only pardon over federal charges.

So, is this what Trump's trying for?

1. Trump pardons all his people who were charged in Georgia.
2. The State of Georgia tells Trump that's not how it works; he can't pardon people who weren't charged federally.
3. Trump runs to his Supreme Court to get the law that says presidents can't pardon state-level offenses overturned.
4. When they do, he starts issuing own-the-libs pardons like one for Derek Chauvin, the former police officer who murdered George Floyd.

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