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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:38 AM Sunday

Vandalized monuments, illegal base jumping and 'bear jams': The shutdown is causing havoc at national parks

Source: The Independent

Saturday 08 November 2025 20:12 EST


Destruction at historic landmark sites, illegal base-jumping and unchecked “bear jams” are among the escalating incidents at America’s national parks, which are suffering due to lack of staff and services because of the ongoing government shutdown.

Despite the warnings of advocacy groups, the Trump administration has allowed many national parks to be at least partially open with few staff and services during what has become the longest shutdown in history.

Numerous incidents have been recorded across the country including overflowing bathrooms, piled-up trash, unkept trails and even a 70-acre wildfire near an unstaffed campground in Joshua Tree, California. Though warnings were posted online by the state fire agency, CAL FIRE, and Joshua Tree's website, updates were less frequent that usual.

At the time, a spokesperson for San Bernardino County Fire Protection told The Desert Sun that, although Joshua Tree National Park and the Bureau of Land Management were managing the fire, and eventually brought it under control, they were not certain what media contacts were available due to staffing shortages. Both Joshua Tree National Park and the Bureau of Land Management have been affected by the shutdown, the outlet reported.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/national-parks-service-shutdown-chaos-b2861538.html

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Vandalized monuments, illegal base jumping and 'bear jams': The shutdown is causing havoc at national parks (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sunday OP
Left partially open on purpose NJCher Sunday #1
Of course. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #2
When the Soviet Union fell state resources in markodochartaigh Sunday #5
"Bear jams" for anyone wondering. markodochartaigh Sunday #3
Thanks for explaining that. Vinca Sunday #4
I think they sell bear jam at Jellystone. JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #7
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Sunday #9
I was! Alice B. Sunday #6
Pictures like these irritate markodochartaigh Sunday #8
I was actually staring at the cars, looking for the AI "tells" Alice B. Sunday #12
I love Yellowstone. murielm99 Sunday #14
Just like the last shutdowns. The assholes who don't respect our public lands wreak havoc in the parks. ChicagoTeamster Sunday #10
Magats vandalize, they will blame Biden. GreenWave Sunday #11
On Friday, I visited Castillo San Felipe del Morro in San Juan, PR... Pacifist Patriot Sunday #13

OldBaldy1701E

(9,532 posts)
2. Of course.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:52 AM
Sunday

Once they allow them to get really gross, then they will start with the 'we need to use this land for better purpose, and Voila`!

Oil wells and data sites. Soon, there will not be a natural tree left in the country, if they had their way.

markodochartaigh

(4,639 posts)
5. When the Soviet Union fell state resources in
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:01 AM
Sunday

Russia and the other Soviet republics were sold off for pennies on the dollar to oiligarchs. Under Trump's first term the sale of national parks had already started. Many in the reich-wing in the US believe that other than military bases and small areas for federal buildings the federal government should not own land.

markodochartaigh

(4,639 posts)
3. "Bear jams" for anyone wondering.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:55 AM
Sunday

Lower levels of staffing have potential to cause more serious problems. There has been a lack of monitoring of so-called “bear jams” – traffic buildups which occur when bears get too close to the road – in Yellowstone National Park, Montana.

Vinca

(53,027 posts)
4. Thanks for explaining that.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:58 AM
Sunday

Given how bad things are getting in this country, I figured it must be grizzly on toast.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,486 posts)
7. I think they sell bear jam at Jellystone.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:03 AM
Sunday

Seriesly, I heard it's smart to buy in a bear market.

Alice B.

(666 posts)
6. I was!
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:10 AM
Sunday

Side note, just as someone who wrangles content professionally, the Independent had enough photos of the real, ongoing impacts on our parks, they didn't need to include a stock photo (of a bear jam) that appears to have been taken in Europe, with European license plates prominent in the foreground. It's small, but those kind of details bother me.

markodochartaigh

(4,639 posts)
8. Pictures like these irritate
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:25 AM
Sunday

me too. And I think with AI produced content they are only going to become more common. I get the sense that a lot of AI content is never checked by an actual human before it is plastered all over the web. The difference between lightning and a lightning bug as Mark Twain said.

Alice B.

(666 posts)
12. I was actually staring at the cars, looking for the AI "tells"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:45 AM
Sunday

And then I thought, surely Getty wouldn’t be beefing their library up with that junk.

I don’t think I’ve heard that Twain quote before. Definitely filing it away!

ChicagoTeamster

(172 posts)
10. Just like the last shutdowns. The assholes who don't respect our public lands wreak havoc in the parks.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:45 AM
Sunday

Pacifist Patriot

(25,180 posts)
13. On Friday, I visited Castillo San Felipe del Morro in San Juan, PR...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:45 AM
Sunday

I was so impressed with the National Park Service employees who showed up and made sure tourists could visit. I tried to pay the entry fee and was told, "we aren't open today," while gesturing us in.

I need to figure out a way to give back.

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