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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:02 AM Sunday

Senate Republicans embrace Trump's call - from his Florida golf course - to replace Obamacare

Source: The Guardian

Sat 8 Nov 2025 16.31 EST
Last modified on Sat 8 Nov 2025 18.05 EST


US senators are working through the weekend for the first time since the government shutdown began more than a month ago, but hopes for a bipartisan agreement on how to end the standoff, and keep healthcare affordable for millions of Americans, appeared to recede as Republican senators floated a proposal toxic to Democrats: scrapping the Affordable Care Act (ACA), known as Obamacare.

The impact on Americans from the longest shutdown of the federal government in history deepened on Saturday, as federal workers went unpaid, airlines were forced to cancel flights and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Snap) benefits have been delayed for 42 million Americans.

As Saturday’s session got under way, Republican senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Rick Scott of Florida and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana welcomed a proposal made on social media early Saturday by Donald Trump, from his golf course in West Palm Beach, for subsidies to be replaced by health savings accounts.

In a Truth Social post, Trump suggested that instead of meeting the demand from Democrats to extend subsidies for health insurance plans purchased through the ACA marketplace, to pay for sharply increased premiums, Republicans should return to the project of replacing the Obama-era law, which failed during his first administration.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/08/senate-republicans-trump-obamacare

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Senate Republicans embrace Trump's call - from his Florida golf course - to replace Obamacare (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sunday OP
Right, with Medicare for all!!!! elleng Sunday #1
The Rich-Ferengi-Wing would first kill Medicare. But we can dream! nt Festivito Sunday #2
Would never happen with this bunch of robber barons. Justice matters. Sunday #21
Health savings accounts work only if you have money to put into them. Lonestarblue Sunday #3
He probably doesn't know that HSAs exist. Old Crank Sunday #10
Wasn't it knuckle head Bush Jr. that started that plan? Bengus81 Sunday #12
Hard to believe we're back here again. The ACA works pretty well and the notion we're headed back Vinca Sunday #4
This is proof that none of these people have ever bought insurance Henry203 Sunday #5
In my Health Savings Account, can I invest in TrumpCoin? JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #6
dumpie will be expecting them to come up with something better than Obama-care KS Toronado Sunday #7
They've never even presented a plan. They won't have a replacement. Ever. Their plan is if you're not rich, you die. ChicagoTeamster Sunday #8
To be fair, nobody knew it was this hard. rickford66 Sunday #9
Their plan will always be as Alan Grayson described it: the_liberal_grandpa Sunday #11
Health Savings Accounts again? mcar Sunday #13
Yep...KILL the ACA now and work on that "concept of a plan" later Bengus81 Sunday #14
The Republicans, back in 2017, came up with a plan pushed by tRump that came within one vote of passing progree Sunday #16
It was the HCFA that they voted on last where it failed by one vote--McCain's thumbs down Bengus81 Monday #24
Just rename the ACA "Trumpcare". He'll support it then... Fil1957 Sunday #15
At least the Guardian is pointing out some hard realities: progree Sunday #17
With WHAT? stollen Sunday #18
Replace Obamacare with what? dlk Sunday #19
No problem. He'll have it in two weeks. (n/t) thesquanderer Sunday #22
Replace it with Trumps 'concepts"!!-- which is a nothing, a zero!! riversedge Monday #23
I'm sure his scheme involves some form of self-enrichment JoseBalow Sunday #20

Justice matters.

(9,107 posts)
21. Would never happen with this bunch of robber barons.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sunday

Their plan is to send money (not enough of it, of course) to buy denialable "coverage" that would not guarantee payments (coverage DENIED) when claimed.

IOW, the return of "if you get sick, die quickly" republican MO.

Lonestarblue

(13,125 posts)
3. Health savings accounts work only if you have money to put into them.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:51 AM
Sunday

Anyone who trusts Republicans to fund such accounts is delusional.

Old Crank

(6,418 posts)
10. He probably doesn't know that HSAs exist.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:16 AM
Sunday

He just spouted out something.

His concept of a plan. I think he means putting money into accounts. But who really knows.

Bengus81

(9,584 posts)
12. Wasn't it knuckle head Bush Jr. that started that plan?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:40 AM
Sunday

Sure Bush...how much should I save for cancer treatments. My Gawd!

Vinca

(53,027 posts)
4. Hard to believe we're back here again. The ACA works pretty well and the notion we're headed back
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:00 AM
Sunday

to the days of unaffordable private insurance and no coverage for pre-existing conditions is terrifying. Fucking Republicans.

Henry203

(803 posts)
5. This is proof that none of these people have ever bought insurance
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:33 AM
Sunday

I bought insurance before the ACA and after. Before the ACA it was unbelievably bad. And after it was better but if you are not in some pool you still don’t getting great insurance. There is nothing like Medicare with a supplement.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,486 posts)
6. In my Health Savings Account, can I invest in TrumpCoin?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:09 AM
Sunday

So, Republicans want to replace "ObamaCare" with ... no insurance at all. Just a self-funded bank account.

If some serious illness befalls me, would I have to sell the Bentley or the Gulfstream?

KS Toronado

(22,098 posts)
7. dumpie will be expecting them to come up with something better than Obama-care
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:18 AM
Sunday

in mere days because the stable genius had a brain fart.

ChicagoTeamster

(172 posts)
8. They've never even presented a plan. They won't have a replacement. Ever. Their plan is if you're not rich, you die.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sunday
11. Their plan will always be as Alan Grayson described it:
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sunday

1) Don't get sick
2) If you do get sick, die quickly

Bengus81

(9,584 posts)
14. Yep...KILL the ACA now and work on that "concept of a plan" later
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:47 AM
Sunday

Anyone with a working brain knows that later will never arrive. The Republicans were going to roll out a better plan than the ACA in 2012. Trump had one ready to go in 2016.

So what happened....CRICKETS.

progree

(12,548 posts)
16. The Republicans, back in 2017, came up with a plan pushed by tRump that came within one vote of passing
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:02 PM
Sunday

the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act), which were remarkably similar to the ACA except vastly underfunded -- such that premiums were expected to be much much higher (and coverage weaker) for most people, leading the CBO to estimate 22 million people would lose insurance as a result. Yet it came just one vote short of passing.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20767877

Since 2017, nothing.

Bengus81

(9,584 posts)
24. It was the HCFA that they voted on last where it failed by one vote--McCain's thumbs down
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:51 AM
Monday

They tried from March to July 20217 to kill it off, or just cripple the ACA so badly it would die on it's own. Republicans finally gave up and moved on to giving the massive tax cut for the rich that they just passed to renew.

The HCFA was another McConnell hit job to finally kill the ACA. I'll rejoice my ass off when that POS vapor locks.

Yeah...all their versions were the ACA with failure built into them if passed.

progree

(12,548 posts)
17. At least the Guardian is pointing out some hard realities:
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:07 PM
Sunday
None of the Republican senators seemed to grapple with the fact that consumers would still need to buy plans from the same insurance companies,


.. . Trump posted. “THE MONEY MUST NOW GO DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE, TAKING THE ‘FAT CAT’ INSURANCE COMPANIES OUT OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM OF HEALTHCARE. THE PEOPLE CAN BUY THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER POLICY, FOR MUCH LESS MONEY,” the president claimed, without explaining how Americans would be able to purchase cheaper plans from the same insurance companies.


And the absurd:

One bizarre element of the Republican effort to signal that their party is working overtime to end the shutdown, even as Trump golfs in Florida, was a social media post on Saturday from Markwayne Mullin, an Oklahoma senator. Mullin posted four photographs of himself and two other Republican senators meeting with Trump in the Oval Office, with the caption: “Working through the weekend with President Donald J Trump. It’s always an honor to be in the Oval Office– I never take this opportunity to serve Oklahoma for granted.”

What Mullin failed to make clear is that the photographs were taken on Friday, before Trump left for a weekend golf trip at his Florida resort.
(emphasis added)

dlk

(13,030 posts)
19. Replace Obamacare with what?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:42 PM
Sunday

Republicans only want to kill Obamacare. They have no replacement.

JoseBalow

(8,924 posts)
20. I'm sure his scheme involves some form of self-enrichment
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:37 PM
Sunday

drumpf never ever gives away something for nothing, only if he directly or indirectly benefits from it personally.

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