Israel needs to justify what it is doing, after all.

Just keep mentioning the genocide, and keep using the term 'antisemitism' against anyone who says Israel is doing evil.

I've met people who believe God is On Their Side, and none of them were true Christians.

Second- Kristallnacht was an attack on Jews, Israel did not exist as a country. You seem to be indicating "Israel" and "Jew" are synonyms

Lastly- Jews are not Christians

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Calling out at butcher like "BN" IS NOT antisemitism.

Not really seeing any reason to bring him up in regards to that event, unless they're trying to allude to him somehow being behind it.

No idea how he'd be behind a event that happened a decade before his birth, but well... It wouldn't be the craziest antisemitic conspiracy theory floating around.

It's about shitting on a Kristallnacht anniversary thread nothing more.

That's how bad a leader BN is. Madman. Like tRUMP.

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There is an answer to the doctor's question. All the Dachaus must remain standing. The Dachaus, the Belsens, the Buchenwalds, the Auschwitzes; all of them. They must remain standing because they are a monument to a moment in time when some men decided to turn the Earth into a graveyard. Into it they shoveled all of their reason, their logic, their knowledge, but worst of all, their conscience. And the moment we forget this, the moment we cease to be haunted by its remembrance, then we become the gravediggers. Something to dwell on and to remember, not only in the Twilight Zone but wherever men walk God's Earth.

Never repeat.

Two horrific wrongs don't make a right.

It's a great movie about the other end of the war. Worth seeing, but don't expect a light movie. It's not.

that the rising antisemitism wasn't just a passing phase, that they could no longer have confidence that the German people were too intelligent and cultivated to be swayed by that silly blustery little man with the funny moustache.
Have our darker-skinned brothers and sisters in this country already HAD their Kristallnacht?

We do it again!

The Nakba is the Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.

Regarding the 'rise in antisemitism', if Israel displayed a completely different symbol on their flag, rather than the six pointed star, it would be clear that those who disagree with Israel's global politics are protesting Israel's policies -not the entire Jewish religion.

Found:

I stopped wearing the Star of David because it has become a symbol of supremacy and fascism
In October 2023, I proudly wore my Star of David necklace to an emergency rally for Gaza, but a year later I could no longer wear it. Israel has made it impossible to divorce this symbol from the unfathomable devastation carried out under its banner.
By Anna Lippman November 9, 2024

Anna Lippman is a 3rd generation Ashkenzi Jewish migrant on Turtle Island. She is a PhD student in the Sociology department at York University. Anna organizes with several groups in Toronto including Showing Up for Racial Justice and Independent Jewish Voices.

""Like the swastika, there is nothing wrong with the star in and of itself; this symbol existed before Israel and will exist after Israel’s demise. Yet, this symbol which was once an integral part of how I show my identity, is now synonymous with the cruelty and evil of the Zionist regime. When Palestinians look at this symbol, which has been used to represent Jewish supremacy and Palestinian destruction, they do not feel a distinction between this symbol when it is blue and in between two stripes or if it is gold and around my neck. Both represent the destruction of the Palestinian people. ""

Or how about the 12 countries who have the Islamic symbol of the star and cresent on their flags?

So people wouldn't be antisemitic if only Israel would drop the Star of David from their flag?

I really am astounded by the stuff I read on DU sometimes.

one directing GENOCIDE.

See you (sort of) figured it out own your OWN!

Found:

I stopped wearing the Star of David because it has become a symbol of supremacy and fascism
In October 2023, I proudly wore my Star of David necklace to an emergency rally for Gaza, but a year later I could no longer wear it. Israel has made it impossible to divorce this symbol from the unfathomable devastation carried out under its banner.
By Anna Lippman November 9, 2024

Anna Lippman is a 3rd generation Ashkenzi Jewish migrant on Turtle Island. She is a PhD student in the Sociology department at York University. Anna organizes with several groups in Toronto including Showing Up for Racial Justice and Independent Jewish Voices.

""Like the swastika, there is nothing wrong with the star in and of itself; this symbol existed before Israel and will exist after Israel’s demise. Yet, this symbol which was once an integral part of how I show my identity, is now synonymous with the cruelty and evil of the Zionist regime. When Palestinians look at this symbol, which has been used to represent Jewish supremacy and Palestinian destruction, they do not feel a distinction between this symbol when it is blue and in between two stripes or if it is gold and around my neck. Both represent the destruction of the Palestinian people. ""

Just because you "found" a Jewish woman who claims that the Star of David is "synonymous with the Zionist regime" does not make it so, any more than finding a woman who says feminism is synonymous with fascism. You can "find" someone on the fringe to say just about anything.

Antisemitism existed long before Netanyahu. Removing the Star of David from the Israeli flag will not make antisemitism go away. I can't believe I even have to make these obvious statements here on DU, but apparently I do.

The disagreement of Israel's global politics are protesting Israel's policies

It is the harassment and assault of Jewish people and vandalism of Jewish owned properties and businesses

The horrible, hateful, evil, cruel, disgusting, dehumanizing justification for the antisemitism is …because Israel.

Never Forget. Holy F

...and Fuentes [although he's he's an all around bigot, but he does add fuel to that particular fire].
Their "permissionns" to all kinds of bigotries in words, and actions here on the USA, and around the world; I can feel why our Jewish DU'rs are increasing anxious.
As for:

"Never Forget. Holy F"

I wasn't being rude. How 'bout you?

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Everyone alive at that time was dramatically affected by the purging of humans. Respect them all. No harm. You are a great DU member.

My second neighborhood (starting at 7 yrs old in 1960) was 2/3rds Jewish. Those of my friends who were Jewish, as you can guess, had gaps in their families from The Holocaust.

were married to soldiers. It was more than 30 years after the war and it was still on their minds.
My dad told me when I was in high school that the US balked at entering WW2 until Pearl Harbor.
Not something I had learned in history. Thanks to those folks of that era for saving us all. War sucks.

Not sure when I learned that fact about Pearl Harbor.

Wa is Hell. Hopefully some day way less of it.
Honors to those who fought against the Axis Powers!

And a lot of blind alleys in the unpacking process that lead nowhere.

How far you get in that unpacking process is entirely up to you.

and the survivors who remain.

About the Kristallnacht pogrom?

Do you believe there is some nuance that would say the Nazis were justified?

It is incomprehensible that anyone's reaction to a story about the commemoration of the 87th anniversary of Kristallnach and the survivors who remain would be either to jump right in and sneer or to offer up propaganda from a site classified as a hate group.

But there you have it.

But yeah, if you want to take offense, have at it!

The 'unpacking' starts when you work out what such commemorations mean to people, and how they can be used to perpetuate Evil.

Commemorations of past wars, ethnic cleaning, etc are used across the world by many cultures.
Nothing wrong with that.
Meant to be a lesson in 'never again', yet here we are, doing it again.

I was always on the side of the new state of Israel, a brave new experiment, a homeland for the dispossessed.
A peaceful place for Jews to flourish.

But something went wrong. I now no longer recognise Israel as that 'brave new experiment'.
Israel is now, and has been for a long time, on a war footing.

Antisemitism, in all its forms, should not be directed at those who are not involved directly in what Benjamin N. and his followers are perpetrating.

and recognizes how that attitude perpetuates the evil of anti-Semitism.

Good to know.