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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:24 PM Nov 8

Trump Urges Senate Republicans To Give Health Care Money 'Directly To The People' As Shutdown Talks Drag On

Source: Huff Post/Reuters

Nov 8, 2025, 10:05 AM EST | Updated 5 hours ago


WASHINGTON, Nov 8 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Saturday urged Republican senators to redirect federal money used to subsidize health insurance costs under the Affordable Care Act toward direct payments to individuals, floating a potential compromise to an issue at the heart of the U.S. government shutdown.

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,” Trump wrote in a social media post.

“In other words, take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies, give it to the people, and terminate, per Dollar spent, the worst Healthcare anywhere in the World, ObamaCare,” he added, without offering further details.

Trump’s comments on Truth Social came just hours before the U.S. Senate was set to reconvene at noon (1700 GMT) after rejecting legislation on Friday that would have resumed paychecks for hundreds of thousands of federal workers during the longest government shutdown in U.S. history.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-urges-lawmakers-give-health-care-money-directly-people_n_690f5a4de4b0dd4ea75bc676?origin=home-whats-happening-unit



The equivalent of the same old GOP "voucher" is warmed-over nonsense and this is nothing but "Repeal".
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Trump Urges Senate Republicans To Give Health Care Money 'Directly To The People' As Shutdown Talks Drag On (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 8 OP
wow markie Nov 8 #1
Could that be because he's never had to use health insurance... ananda Nov 8 #5
Just like he has never been in a grocery store and probably has no idea of how gas goes into vehicles. He has always LiberalArkie Sunday #41
Yes! 3825-87867 Nov 8 #7
Would the gains be offset by lack of group Ilsa Nov 8 #2
Then we circle back to surcharges for the unpaid IbogaProject Sunday #44
And how can people "PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE"? Wiz Imp Nov 8 #3
"but I guarantee many Republicans in Congress do" mdbl Nov 8 #11
It is the ramblings of an ignorant fool. You would have to "give" everyone enough money to.. Ol Janx Spirit Sunday #35
Madman mountain grammy Nov 8 #4
That's something knuckledragging magats would cheer for C_U_L8R Nov 8 #6
This has to do with Trump's unwarranted contempt for the president who signed the ACA into law. J_William_Ryan Nov 8 #8
Our posts were two minutes apart.... 70sEraVet Nov 8 #10
Trump has always wanted ObamaCare killed 70sEraVet Nov 8 #9
Wants to tarnish Obama's legacy orangecrush Nov 8 #19
Lindsey Graham is attempting to sell the tRump BS today BigmanPigman Nov 8 #12
Suddenly Republicans don't like private health insurance? SunSeeker Nov 8 #13
Who knows what the hell they are selling, they certainly don't. BigmanPigman Nov 8 #21
Sure sounds like single payer Prairie Gates Nov 8 #31
Right? SunSeeker Nov 8 #34
I actually agree with him for once. AllyCat Nov 8 #14
those money-sucking insurance companies give a LOT of money to the GOP Skittles Sunday #36
He is a fucking idiot purr-rat beauty Nov 8 #15
is that for real? Skittles Sunday #37
"take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies" Grokenstein Nov 8 #16
Trump Knows Nothing About How Healthcare Works DallasNE Nov 8 #17
Whacko orangecrush Nov 8 #18
I was thinking "School Voucher" scam before I even got to the end of this posting Bluetus Nov 8 #20
tRump has always favored letting people buy various kinds of junk insurance, which undoubtedly save people money -- progree Nov 8 #22
Trump and his spawn popsdenver Nov 8 #23
This is just another "THERE WILL BE NO TAXES ON TIPS!" ploy to try to keep his followers devoted to him. LaMouffette Nov 8 #24
I can see it now. NH Ethylene Nov 8 #25
Bypass Obamacare, give money to the people directly, so they can buy... Obamacare? unblock Nov 8 #26
And where are we going to purchase this wonderful health insurance? CANADA ? Bread and Circuses Nov 8 #27
Purchase their own healthcare from whom, precisely, Donald? geniph Nov 8 #28
Sure, that'll work. WestMichRad Nov 8 #29
Hummmm peggysue2 Nov 8 #30
So this is Trumpcare? Nine years to come up with a replacement for ACA William Seger Nov 8 #32
The Republicans back in 2017, came up with a plan supported by tRump that came within one vote of passing progree Sunday #40
Those money sucking insurance companies kacekwl Nov 8 #33
Much better healthcare? For who? patphil Sunday #38
Yep, and not only that. Justice matters. Sunday #39
He knows all about money sucking Bayard Sunday #42
Trump's healthcare opinions are not to be trusted bmichaelh Sunday #43
Nothing... GiqueCee Sunday #45

markie

(23,757 posts)
1. wow
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
Nov 8

the ignorance is overwhelming... this request is proof he has no understanding, no comprehension of the process, how ins companies work and how valuable the ACA is

ananda

(33,991 posts)
5. Could that be because he's never had to use health insurance...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:39 PM
Nov 8

It's also true that his ignorance is overwhelming on everything,
so... who knows.

LiberalArkie

(19,119 posts)
41. Just like he has never been in a grocery store and probably has no idea of how gas goes into vehicles. He has always
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:00 AM
Sunday

had "people" that do that for him since the day he was born

Ilsa

(63,611 posts)
2. Would the gains be offset by lack of group
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:33 PM
Nov 8

bargaining power to keep charges in check? What's to keep clinics, hospitals, etc in check on pricing other than for Medicare? There are too many places where there is no competition.

IbogaProject

(5,420 posts)
44. Then we circle back to surcharges for the unpaid
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:27 PM
Sunday

The biggest causes of our health cost bloat are the expense of administering claims on both the health providers and the insurance side, and malpractice insurance. Covering everything is projected to save money even during the first transition year. A single payer system would also eventually reduce other liability insurance like, automobile, workman's comp business and property liability coverages.

Wiz Imp

(8,152 posts)
3. And how can people "PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE"?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 8

Pretty much the only way is to purchase their own health insurance. So the insurance companies are getting the money regardless. Trump is probably too stupid to understand this, but I guarantee many Republicans in Congress do.

Giving money directly to people doesn't eliminate insurance companies. The only way to do that is through some universal or single payer health care system like pretty much every single country in the rest of the world has. Democrats favor this. It's the Republican party which is totally beholden to the insurance companies.

mdbl

(7,768 posts)
11. "but I guarantee many Republicans in Congress do"
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 06:23 PM
Nov 8

which ones so I can watch them act stupid anyway.

Ol Janx Spirit

(493 posts)
35. It is the ramblings of an ignorant fool. You would have to "give" everyone enough money to..
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:25 AM
Sunday

...cover any health emergency or problem they would ever have--so, what, millions to every American? Or, you have to "give" them enough to buy insurance--so, basically the ACA?

At some point maybe he will realize that there is already a system in place that could be funded with that money and expanded to cover everyone not already covered under an insurance plan. It's called Medicare.

Democrats are already in favor of doing that.

When will MAGA call him out for being a socialist?

C_U_L8R

(48,546 posts)
6. That's something knuckledragging magats would cheer for
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:40 PM
Nov 8

Then they’d go out and buy a bushel of cheez kurls and a 7 gallon bottle of caffeine corn syrup cola.

J_William_Ryan

(3,150 posts)
8. This has to do with Trump's unwarranted contempt for the president who signed the ACA into law.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:56 PM
Nov 8

Having nothing whatsoever to do with helping Americans gain access to affordable healthcare.

70sEraVet

(5,117 posts)
9. Trump has always wanted ObamaCare killed
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:58 PM
Nov 8

That was one of the perks of the BBBill -- starving The ACA.
The fact that people will die means NOTHING to him.

SunSeeker

(57,262 posts)
13. Suddenly Republicans don't like private health insurance?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 06:59 PM
Nov 8

They're the ones who tanked the public option!

Are they saying they're now for Medicare For All???

BigmanPigman

(54,374 posts)
21. Who knows what the hell they are selling, they certainly don't.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:45 PM
Nov 8

It's obvious that team tRump has no clue as how to govern and their "message" is all over the place. It changes several times a day since their dear leader is a sadistic psychopath with advanced dementia. His own party has no idea what he is doing from one hour to the next.

AllyCat

(18,367 posts)
14. I actually agree with him for once.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:05 PM
Nov 8

They ARE money-sucking insurance companies. But all agreement ends there. Just like incentives to buy EVs equaling the price increases for every electric car manufacturer, the price of housing and food going up when we got needed stimulus checks during covid, and giving any tax benefits for deductions on mortgages and such,

the industries that benefit raise their prices to take every dollar and then some.

purr-rat beauty

(833 posts)
15. He is a fucking idiot
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:10 PM
Nov 8

No idea how expensive healthcare is

Hey...here's $500!

Thanks!

That covered labs!

It lightened up the weight of the $150,000 for my vasectomy

Grokenstein

(6,206 posts)
16. "take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies"
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:30 PM
Nov 8

It's like reading the work of a child. And he talks like that because (1) he assumes he's talking down to comparative idiots, and (2) because his own brain is melted from age, disease, drug abuse and multiple other factors.

DallasNE

(7,922 posts)
17. Trump Knows Nothing About How Healthcare Works
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:30 PM
Nov 8

"Obamacare" is not insurance. It is a marketplace to purchase insurance. What makes it work is the subsidies. Private insurance is even more expensive than the insurance available from the marketplace because the government negotiates a discount. This would be how it was before Obamacare, which now covers something like 42 million people. That number was swollen when many companies discontinued their company plans and told their employees to enroll in Obamacare, so this would make matters much worse. Indeed, if it were as easy as cutting a check, it would have been done long ago.

Bluetus

(1,923 posts)
20. I was thinking "School Voucher" scam before I even got to the end of this posting
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:37 PM
Nov 8

exactly as the author did.

But in this case, if there is a requirement that the recipients use the money to buy health insurance, then they will be dealing the same "money sucking" insurance companies. But they will pay 3X more because they will not benefit from being in a rating pool, and they will get penalized for anything the companies can call a pre-existing condition.

It is just another variation on the "Bankrupt the country so the government will fail" scheme. Practically everything the GOP does follows that same basic game plan.

progree

(12,548 posts)
22. tRump has always favored letting people buy various kinds of junk insurance, which undoubtedly save people money --
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:54 PM
Nov 8

-- until the bills show up. Like the Christian sharing health plans, the short-term plans, many others

The ACA, for all its faults, have requirements like ten essential things and more that must be covered, and other standards.

Before the ACA, it was impossible to compare insurance plans because there was no standard to compare to, and each one was full of fine print and marketing gimmicks (so during those years I just went "bare" ).

When the ACA came along, I felt much more confident in knowing what I was and wasn't getting.

Fortunately, I've been on Medicare for the last few years, so I don't have to keep up with what's going on with the ACA, other than, yes, I read the articles about huge jumps in premiums to be made even bigglier without the extended tax credits.

Oh, how isn't the tax credits a way to give money directly to the people? So why is he and the R's opposed to that?

We went thru all this with tRump and Republicans back in 2017, who came up with a plan (the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act), which were remarkably similar to the ACA except vastly underfunded -- such that premiums were expected to be much much higher (and coverage weaker) for most people, leading the CBO to estimate 22 million people would lose insurance as a result. Yet it came just one vote short of passing.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20767877

popsdenver

(1,017 posts)
23. Trump and his spawn
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:11 PM
Nov 8

have had plenty of time to rig a plan to grift a large %age of that money..........

LaMouffette

(2,551 posts)
24. This is just another "THERE WILL BE NO TAXES ON TIPS!" ploy to try to keep his followers devoted to him.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:15 PM
Nov 8

I wouldn't be surprised if he offered every Republican voter a brand new pickup truck. "YOU get a truck! And YOU get a truck!"

He's that desperate to "get his ratings up" after the No Kings Rally and the devastating polls that have him tanking on every issue, which both showed him how much the majority of Americans despise him.

NH Ethylene

(31,258 posts)
25. I can see it now.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:16 PM
Nov 8

He'll 'generously' offer to send out $2,000 to every American household for medical expenses (which of course would be a tiny fraction of what would be needed to replace insurance).

But inevitably he will send it only to those who 'deserve' it (meaning just the registered Republicans, or only to 'red' states).

That's what he would propose if he even had any wits about him. But right now he is flailing defensively, straining his weak intellect trying to think of something that will save him from the huge shutdown hole that he dug.

Things are going South for him (to my utter delight!) and his support is cracking in many spots.

Bread and Circuses

(1,394 posts)
27. And where are we going to purchase this wonderful health insurance? CANADA ?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:19 PM
Nov 8

Do republicans forget that ACA requires insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions?

geniph

(12,600 posts)
28. Purchase their own healthcare from whom, precisely, Donald?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:31 PM
Nov 8

Is he thinking that sending everyone $50 a month will allow them to just ... go to the healthcare store and buy healthcare? That'll go a long way to pay for chemo, or the cardiac ICU. JFHC, can we make this demented old POS pay for his own MRI next time?

WestMichRad

(2,794 posts)
29. Sure, that'll work.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:26 PM
Nov 8

Make them pay out of pocket and maybe the gubbmint will reimburse them later. Maybe.

What could possibly be wrong with that?


peggysue2

(12,310 posts)
30. Hummmm
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 10:58 PM
Nov 8

Is this Agent Orange's concept of a plan made real? Send the rubes a few thousand dollars and let them figure it out.

Brilliant!

We have this and Donnie's suggestion we institute 50-year mortgages. Bankers are high-fiving one another as we speak.

Time to admit it MAGA--your hero is nuts.

William Seger

(12,049 posts)
32. So this is Trumpcare? Nine years to come up with a replacement for ACA
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:26 PM
Nov 8

... and THIS absolutely astounding display of both ignorance and stupidity is what he came up with? People will somehow, somewhere, buy better insurance and have money left over? Hey, genius, how about just telling people how to do that, so everyone can take advantage of it?

Lie, delusion, or the delusion that people will believe every lie — doesn't much matter.

progree

(12,548 posts)
40. The Republicans back in 2017, came up with a plan supported by tRump that came within one vote of passing
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:56 AM
Sunday

the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act), which were remarkably similar to the ACA except vastly underfunded -- such that premiums were expected to be much much higher (and coverage weaker) for most people, leading the CBO to estimate 22 million people would lose insurance as a result. Yet it came just one vote short of passing.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20767877

kacekwl

(8,780 posts)
33. Those money sucking insurance companies
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:39 PM
Nov 8

big wig millionaires and billionaires are being paid bigly by you tax cuts dementia Donnie. Leave us alone and get the money back from them.

patphil

(8,491 posts)
38. Much better healthcare? For who?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 02:45 AM
Sunday

You get some money, but the insurance companies are free to decide how much your healthcare costs.
It's just another scam to move money into the hands of big corporations, but this time we are the intermediates.
Want to bet how little the money the government provides in terms of actual healthcare needs.
Just another scam.

Justice matters.

(9,107 posts)
39. Yep, and not only that.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:15 AM
Sunday

You pay, pay, then pay more, then pay more than you paid more. And when you get sick, tough luck: You get denied of coverage due to the infamous "small prints" between the lines almost nobody reads...

A lifetime scammer.

Bayard

(27,794 posts)
42. He knows all about money sucking
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sunday

Its a life-long pursuit.

Medicare for all is the only way to go.

bmichaelh

(1,047 posts)
43. Trump's healthcare opinions are not to be trusted
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:01 PM
Sunday

When it comes to healthcare, why should anyone trust anything that this idiot Trump pushes.

Trump must have missed those critical thinking classes in his education.

Over the weekend, he was pushing a debunked claim that Obama received royalties from Obamacare.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674279489/

Earlier in the year, he was pushing a miracle 'medbed' cure for everything.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/28/politics/trump-ai-medbed-conspiracy-theory
This is science fiction; as shown in the movies Prometheus and Elysium.

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