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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:13 PM Nov 8

Republicans scramble for ideas to reopen government after pressure tactics fail

Source: The Hill

11/08/25 6:00 AM ET


Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and his Republican leadership team are scrambling for new ideas to end the 38-day government shutdown after it became clear Friday that tactics to pressure Democrats to vote for a House-passed funding bill have failed so far.

Senate Republicans are batting around various ideas to break the stalemate, such as voting on a new Senate-drafted bill that would fund a large swath of the federal government through fiscal year 2026. This approach, championed by members of the Appropriations Committee, would entail voting on three regular appropriations bills that passed the Senate earlier this year with strong bipartisan support and which have been vetted with House Republicans.

Another idea, promoted by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), is to unveil a Republican-drafted bill that would seek to lower rising health care costs — tackling the issue at the center of the battle over government funding.

A third proposal, touted by Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.), is to encourage the Trump administration to raid federally funded projects in Democratic states such as California and New York to come up with additional funding to pay active-duty members of the military and air traffic controllers during the shutdown.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5596125-republicans-ideas-government-shutdown/



This just underscores that the GOP has NO idea of "how to govern". Zero. Zilch. Nada.

raid federally funded projects in Democratic states such as California and New York to come up with additional funding


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Republicans scramble for ideas to reopen government after pressure tactics fail (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 8 OP
Complete dickwads UpInArms Nov 8 #1
They are unserious and inept. C_U_L8R Nov 8 #2
Sue yourselves in Federal Court and then ignore the court's ruling bucolic_frolic Nov 8 #3
Democrats should declare an impasse and refuse any further negotiations until Bluetus Nov 8 #13
There has BEEN no real negotiation, except by lessor Senators who aren't in Leadership--- Jack Valentino Nov 8 #16
Good point, so maybe Dems should phrase it differently Bluetus Nov 8 #17
Yeah, quite true.... but Johnson and the House GQP (not subject to 'work requirements', Jack Valentino Nov 8 #19
Maybe 100 Republicans on the discharge petition Bluetus Sunday #20
Not the Yahoo version, but in general, YES... from other sources. Jack Valentino Sunday #21
And THAT may be more the reason for staying out of town Bluetus Sunday #22
Easy! Just release the Epstein files, and things will work out from there. usonian Nov 8 #4
But the House is still on paid extended vacation.................. Lovie777 Nov 8 #5
Well they have "concepts" of how to govern. Fil1957 Nov 8 #6
Pinocchio "I'll be a real boy one day" Johnson, John Boy Thune, and the Wizard of Ooze are... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 8 #7
Go ahead and raid the blue states and watch what happens when the Democrats come into power. cstanleytech Nov 8 #8
They should take the Democratic offer. It's completely reasonable. Fund healthcare for a year and during that time Vinca Nov 8 #9
"They've been talking about replacing Obamacare since 2016 and have done nothing" BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #10
By the way - CONGRATS on your DUversary! BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #11
Thanks! I didn't see that. Wow - 21 years. I was a refugee from the John Kerry site and DU took me in. Vinca Nov 8 #12
They might be scrambling all right... ananda Nov 8 #14
The Schumer compromise proposal to continue Obamacare subsidies for a year Jack Valentino Nov 8 #15
Thune doesn't know what he's doing and Schumer is taking advantage of it. Xolodno Nov 8 #18
Find ideas to open the government? Just open it you lying freaks. travelingthrulife Sunday #23
"...encourage the Trump administration to raid federally funded projects in Democratic states..." OldBaldy1701E Sunday #24

C_U_L8R

(48,546 posts)
2. They are unserious and inept.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:36 PM
Nov 8

Maybe one day they’ll realize what true governance requires… instead, they’re just smelling their own farts.

bucolic_frolic

(53,259 posts)
3. Sue yourselves in Federal Court and then ignore the court's ruling
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:40 PM
Nov 8

Isn't that the game your side plays?

Bluetus

(1,923 posts)
13. Democrats should declare an impasse and refuse any further negotiations until
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:01 PM
Nov 8

the House comes back to work.

We can easily win the optics of that position. And as a result, Adelita Grijalva will be seated and we can get the bill requiring the DoJ to publish the Epstein files. And that puts Trump in a box because then it will be possible to link the government shutdown with the Epstein files, to get a twofer any time the media asks why the shutdown is still happening.

Our position would be, simply:

Republicans had 10 months to negotiate an acceptable budget. Democrats stood ready to negotiate every single day this year, but the Republicans never had a single meeting, not a single discussion, not even a single email or PowerPoint slide with the Democrats to seek common ground. Instead they met in secret and rammed through their own bill, then they left town and have never come back to work since September.

That bill they rammed through the House eliminates all funding for ACA health care premium support needed by 22 million Americans. The Democrats in the Senate could not accept this. The House Republicans are AWOL, because if they come back, then they must seat Democrat Adelita Grijalva who was elected to the House months ago. And as soon as that happens, there will be a discharge petition that will force the DoJ to release the full Epstein files.

So, as a matter of fact, this shutdown continues because Trump is fighting like hell to keep those files from coming out.

Jack Valentino

(4,030 posts)
16. There has BEEN no real negotiation, except by lessor Senators who aren't in Leadership---
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 10:38 PM
Nov 8

They're all just spit-balling until Republican leadership is willing to at least TALK
to Democratic leadership, which probably won't happen until Trump says it is ok to 'talk'....

This is what happens when your party is ruled by a Highchair Hitler in diapers





Bluetus

(1,923 posts)
17. Good point, so maybe Dems should phrase it differently
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:27 PM
Nov 8

As in:

The Constitution says ALL bills that raise revenue (including budget bills) must start in the House, but the House Republicans, without a single minute of negotiation with the Democrats, or even a little consultation, made up their own bill, rammed it through on a party line vote, and then left town months ago.

The Senate can't fix the House's mess. We have nothing to say to anybody until the House Republicans come back to work. When they do that, Democrats in the House are ready to negotiate in good faith, starting the very hour that Republicans come back to work. We are here. We never left town.

Jack Valentino

(4,030 posts)
19. Yeah, quite true.... but Johnson and the House GQP (not subject to 'work requirements',
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:39 PM
Nov 8

those are for POOR hungry people), are all too busy watching pedophile porn
on Epstein's or Vance's couch (sorry, can't recall which) or maybe BOTH couches--

too busy to cum to work! Meanwhile they keep collecting a paycheck,
because congressional members don't lose their paychecks
during government shutdowns, and they have no 'work requirements'.....
amazing how that works, isn't it?


Possibly we should start calling this
"the EPSTEIN FILES shutdown" !


(I read one article today, talking about how one Republican House member
theorized that the Republican House could actually stay closed all the way through the 26 midterms,
because they don't want whatever is actually IN those files, about Trump, to "cum" out!)

Jack Valentino

(4,030 posts)
21. Not the Yahoo version, but in general, YES... from other sources.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:13 AM
Sunday

(somewhat surprised to see Mace's name on the list of GQPs,
but she might have some personal reasons, LOL)


Pedophile Protector Speaker Mike Johnson obviously has HUGE motivation to PREVENT
any vote on that "discharge" petition coming to "pass".....
since if it came to a vote, it WOULD pass with significant GQP support...


SO, he continues to kneel before his anti-christ with his mouth open.....
holding up a magnifying glass....








Bluetus

(1,923 posts)
22. And THAT may be more the reason for staying out of town
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:30 AM
Sunday

He may already accept that the discharge would happen, but he figures Trump's personal Department of Justice would stonewall and block any substantive release.

Maybe the real concern is that so many GOP Reps have seen some of the evidence and more than 4 are bailing out. If he held the vote and 25 Republicans joined all the Dems, that would be almost as bad for Trump as having to release the files. And if 25 GOPpers voted to release the files, it would be very difficult for Trump to stonewall that.

It is hard to believe that 100 GOP reps would join, unless they have all taken some kind of blood oath to walk the plank together.

usonian

(22,458 posts)
4. Easy! Just release the Epstein files, and things will work out from there.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 02:46 PM
Nov 8


I wonder what's the launch code on that thing.

Lovie777

(21,134 posts)
5. But the House is still on paid extended vacation..................
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 03:06 PM
Nov 8

and the GQP Senate is not serious about anything.

Ol Janx Spirit

(493 posts)
7. Pinocchio "I'll be a real boy one day" Johnson, John Boy Thune, and the Wizard of Ooze are...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 03:25 PM
Nov 8

...terrible at their jobs.

On Fox News on September 30th, 2013, during the government shutdown under the Obama Administration, Emperor Tangerine said:
"It always has to be the top. I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top. And the president's the leader and he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead. And he doesn't do that. He doesn't like doing that. That's not his strength."

I don't think even the three of them have been in a room to discuss the shutdown and how to negotiate a way out of it. All three seem to just have their fingers in their ears saying, "la la la la la la la."

The hallmark of this shutdown has to be the ineptitude of those three "leaders."

Hopefully the American people will see it somehow....

cstanleytech

(28,048 posts)
8. Go ahead and raid the blue states and watch what happens when the Democrats come into power.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 03:52 PM
Nov 8

Those deep red welfare states will be hurting for sure.

Vinca

(53,027 posts)
9. They should take the Democratic offer. It's completely reasonable. Fund healthcare for a year and during that time
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 03:55 PM
Nov 8

discuss whatever changes they want to make. As it stands now, you've most likely got people in the middle of cancer treatments who won't know if they will be able to finish it. Republicans are putting lives at risk. They've been talking about replacing Obamacare since 2016 and have done nothing. Anyone in a state with GOP legislators needs to hound them to death.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
10. "They've been talking about replacing Obamacare since 2016 and have done nothing"
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 04:29 PM
Nov 8

They have been talking about replacing it since it passed in 2010, when Democrats were blown out in the election that year, and the attempts began as soon as (R)s took the House. By 2017, there had been more than 70 attempts (Wikpedia even has a page with the running count up to 2017 - here)

It mainly got passed because the first part was passed in 2009 when we had 60 (D)s in the Senate and that was a straight approval (achieving cloture), but when we lost Ted Kennedy and Scott Brown (R) won the special election, we had to do the 2nd part (as a correction to the original) by reconciliation because of the 60 vote (cloture) threshold, and doing it by reconciliation only required a simple majority.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
11. By the way - CONGRATS on your DUversary!
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 04:35 PM
Nov 8

You got the shout-out in the EarlG "Anniversaries and Posting Milestones" thread - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182244641

The happy dance!

Vinca

(53,027 posts)
12. Thanks! I didn't see that. Wow - 21 years. I was a refugee from the John Kerry site and DU took me in.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 05:09 PM
Nov 8

ananda

(33,991 posts)
14. They might be scrambling all right...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:09 PM
Nov 8

out of their rattholes running in circles,
screaming and shouting.

While ideas fly around their heads like
flies.

Jack Valentino

(4,030 posts)
15. The Schumer compromise proposal to continue Obamacare subsidies for a year
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 10:34 PM
Nov 8

seemed extremely reasonable to me--- while many on the left called it a "cave-in",
but Senate Majority Leader Thune immediately rejected it out of hand.

Republican leaders won't even talk with Democratic leaders.
Trump's "Art of the Deal" was always a complete sham, as he now demonstrates.

There IS no possible compromise with Republicans which doesn't include
at LEAST another year of breathing room on health insurance costs for the American people!


Xolodno

(7,241 posts)
18. Thune doesn't know what he's doing and Schumer is taking advantage of it.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:28 PM
Nov 8

Thune assumed Democrats would just cave in and didn't recognize they painted themselves into a corner. Irony, Schumer offered a reasonable option and they outright rejected it. On the Democratic side, we got nothing to lose and everyone is blaming the GOP. We can sit this out, they can't and obviously didn't have a plan B. Closer we get to the holidays, the more hell they will have to pay.

travelingthrulife

(3,813 posts)
23. Find ideas to open the government? Just open it you lying freaks.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:30 AM
Sunday

These people must not be allowed to continue to earn money while they hold us hostage.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,532 posts)
24. "...encourage the Trump administration to raid federally funded projects in Democratic states..."
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:55 AM
Sunday

Yeah.

Does anyone have any information on the ratio of feudally funded projects in Democratic states as opposed to Republican-held states?

I bet it is more red than blue. But, he wants to raid the smaller fundings rather than the bigger ones?

Every single one of them should remember that the time is going to come when they will not be the power in control.

Is there a 'Nuremberg' somewhere in the US? That should be the location of the trials that will follow.

History and all that.

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