FBI Tries to Unmask Owner of Infamous Archive.is Site
Source: 404 Media
The FBI is attempting to unmask the owner behind archive.today, a popular archiving site that is also regularly used to bypass paywalls on the internet and to avoid sending traffic to the original publishers of web content, according to a subpoena posted by the website. The FBI subpoena says it is part of a criminal investigation, though it does not provide any details about what alleged crime is being investigated. Archive.today is also popularly known by several of its mirrors, including archive.is and archive.ph.
The subpoena, which was posted on X by archive.today on October 30, was sent by the FBI to Tucows, a popular Canadian domain registrar. It demands that Tucows give the FBI the customer or subscriber name, address of service, and billing address and other information about the customer behind archive.today.
THE INFORMATION SOUGHT THROUGH THIS SUBPOENA RELATES TO A FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED BY THE FBI, the subpoena says. YOUR COMPANY IS REQUIRED TO FURNISH THIS INFORMATION. YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SUBPOENA INDEFINITELY AS ANY SUCH DISCLOSURE COULD INTERFERE WITH AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.
The subpoena also requests Local and long distance telephone connection records (examples include: incoming and outgoing calls, push-to-talk, and SMS/MMS connection records); Means and source of payment (including any credit card or bank account number); Records of session times and duration for Internet connectivity; Telephone or Instrument number (including IMEI, IMSI, UFMI, and ESN) and/or other customer/subscriber number(s) used to identify customer/subscriber, including any temporarily assigned network address (including Internet Protocol addresses); Types of service used (e.g. push-to-talk, text, three-way calling, email services, cloud computing, gaming services, etc.)
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Read more: https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamous-archive-is-site/
I doubt the Trump thugocracy is concerned about paywalls being evaded. They're almost certainly trying to ensure they can make data - including from government sites - and news they don't want people to know about disappear from the internet.
Dave Bowman
(6,257 posts)Ocelot II
(128,304 posts)on a Canadian company?
Owens
(575 posts)Ocelot II
(128,304 posts)Eugene
(66,598 posts)This is the opening move in a game of whack-a-mole. The worst that will likely happen is the visible domain being seized by the FBI, RCMP, Europol...

Clouds Passing
(6,540 posts)littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,478 posts)RainCaster
(13,337 posts)The entire world should be up in arms about this. The Canadian government should weigh in and publicize it heavily.
RainCaster
(13,337 posts)Take a look https://pdflink.to/1e0e0ecd/
This was written by a real amateur lawyer.
Here's the original article at a German site https://www.heise.de/en/news/Archive-today-FBI-Demands-Data-from-Provider-Tucows-11066346.html
Ocelot II
(128,304 posts)who apparently doesn't know that a ordinary FBI subpoena to a foreign business isn't worth the toilet paper it's written on. There are ways to do it that involve seeking permission from the courts of the other country, but this isn't going to do it.
IbogaProject
(5,420 posts)I first went to see their thread on this, and it wasn't there yet so I posted it.
kimbutgar
(26,491 posts)greblach
(289 posts)So sorry it has been deleted.
Vinca
(53,027 posts)reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)... but the archive.today sites definitely supports the Civil wrong of copyright infringement. The owners of this site should not be kept anonymous, so that they may be sued.
littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)Not all archives are created equal.
reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)... for the benefit of the authors and other creators who work to provide the content. That's only fair.
I don't exactly understand your comment about preservation of the truth. Anyone can archive anything on this site, truth be damned. Maybe you could explain.
In any case, this operation seems to be an anonymous one man show run out of Russia with sketchy funding. So no one is going to be suing him for copyright infringement. The only remedy there would be taking down the site for good.
https://gyrovague.com/2023/08/05/archive-today-on-the-trail-of-the-mysterious-guerrilla-archivist-of-the-internet
littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)How does one preserve truth if not by archive?
Also, there are plenty of books and publications that are not worth the paper that they are printed on.
Have you ever used voice to text? Do you search with a service that uses AI to complete the searches? Have you posted pictures of yourself, your children or your family anywhere on line?
Those are just three examples of the use of privately manufactured information that can be or are used in such a way as to compromise the integrity of their ownership.
Even patents are subject to perusal and copying.
There is nothing new under the sun. But is is the preservation of the truth under the sun that gives us some hope that the world can be built on honesty.
reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)... for preserving their truth, and that their wishes in that regard should be respected, in accordance with the provisions of the copyright laws.
I don't think any of your examples are on point. This site is being used to evade paywalls that publishers and authors are using in order to protect their work and to make a living based on their efforts.
That is basically stealing. Is stealing what you mean by archiving? Is stealing the honesty you hope to build a better world upon?
littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)MichMan
(16,279 posts)littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #29)
MichMan This message was self-deleted by its author.
littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)Even though "DU has a specific rule about respecting copyrights in the TOS because violations aren't a joke," your "alerts get ignored," which suggests that the violations are indeed not taken seriously.
This completely contradicts the assertion that the violations aren't a joke.
I have been alerting on copyright violations here since I got here thirteen years ago. I lost count of the number of times that I have sent such alerts. Never, not once in thirteen years has a single one of those ever resulted in a hide. Not once.
But this is not the issue I was expressing concern about with my original reply and question.
My concern is censorship and the convenient disappearance of unpopular truths. The things that keep us from being bombarded by lies and gaslighting. The demoralizing effects of mis and disinformation (which is propaganda because it's misinformation shared deliberately) and the expensive cost of lost societal cohesiveness are my concerns.
Like the manipulation of information to influence popular opinions and the apathy and confusion that are often a result of such. My worry is that logic, science, and truth will disappear.
I don't want to live on a planet that has regressed into the mindset of the dark ages when fear and myth dominated society because of ignorance and deception.
I don't want to have nothing but conspiracy theories and lies dominating the airwaves, literature, current events and popular opinion because one powerful group has taken it upon themselves to direct and control the free flow of information.
These are my concerns relative to the preservation of the truth.
Thanks for your reply.
❤️
MichMan
(16,279 posts)Don't post messages about site rules, enforcement, juries, hosts, administration, alerts, alerters, removed posts, appeals, locked threads, or anything else related to how this website is moderated (except in the Ask the Administrators forum).
Why we have this rule: The purpose of Democratic Underground is to discuss politics, issues, and current events. Open discussion of how the website is run tends to distract from our core purpose.
littlemissmartypants
(30,897 posts)Question.
Also, I'm very aware of the TOS, where they are located, and how to read them. Others, however, may find your reiteration of them here, though unatributed, beneficial.
Regardless, if you weren't genuinely interested in my meaning, you displayed a unique way of expressing that.
Have a good night.
DFW
(59,363 posts)A friend of mine was with the BKA for decades. No paper pusher, he helped set up security from terrorist (real ones, not Trump or Bondi) attacks at embassies, and identify bodies at bombing scenes. I doubt they would bother with BS like this. Maybe yeah, sure, leave a copy with the receptionist on your way out, but thats where it would end.
Bev54
(13,033 posts)Canadian companies do not automatically have to comply.
reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)...according to their web site, there are 26 Countries our employees work from. So it probably has an American entity that can be subpoenaed.
reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)...according to their web site, there are 26 Countries our employees work from. So it probably has an American entity that can be subpoenaed.
reACTIONary
(6,851 posts)TomWilm
(1,928 posts)... do not care who owns it, they deliver a very good service. And once upon a time, Google's cache worked something similar...