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highplainsdem

(59,027 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:02 AM Nov 6

FBI Tries to Unmask Owner of Infamous Archive.is Site

Source: 404 Media

The FBI is attempting to unmask the owner behind archive.today, a popular archiving site that is also regularly used to bypass paywalls on the internet and to avoid sending traffic to the original publishers of web content, according to a subpoena posted by the website. The FBI subpoena says it is part of a criminal investigation, though it does not provide any details about what alleged crime is being investigated. Archive.today is also popularly known by several of its mirrors, including archive.is and archive.ph.

The subpoena, which was posted on X by archive.today on October 30, was sent by the FBI to Tucows, a popular Canadian domain registrar. It demands that Tucows give the FBI the “customer or subscriber name, address of service, and billing address” and other information about the “customer behind archive.today.”

“THE INFORMATION SOUGHT THROUGH THIS SUBPOENA RELATES TO A FEDERAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED BY THE FBI,” the subpoena says. “YOUR COMPANY IS REQUIRED TO FURNISH THIS INFORMATION. YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SUBPOENA INDEFINITELY AS ANY SUCH DISCLOSURE COULD INTERFERE WITH AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW.”

The subpoena also requests “Local and long distance telephone connection records (examples include: incoming and outgoing calls, push-to-talk, and SMS/MMS connection records); Means and source of payment (including any credit card or bank account number); Records of session times and duration for Internet connectivity; Telephone or Instrument number (including IMEI, IMSI, UFMI, and ESN) and/or other customer/subscriber number(s) used to identify customer/subscriber, including any temporarily assigned network address (including Internet Protocol addresses); Types of service used (e.g. push-to-talk, text, three-way calling, email services, cloud computing, gaming services, etc.)”

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Read more: https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamous-archive-is-site/



I doubt the Trump thugocracy is concerned about paywalls being evaded. They're almost certainly trying to ensure they can make data - including from government sites - and news they don't want people to know about disappear from the internet.
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FBI Tries to Unmask Owner of Infamous Archive.is Site (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 6 OP
It was my first thought. I hope that they'll fail in their attempts to sweep everything under the rug. Dave Bowman Nov 6 #1
I can't think what the crime might be, and how are they going to enforce a subpoena Ocelot II Nov 6 #2
When did the FBI have jurisdiction in Canada? Owens Nov 6 #3
Maybe Trump told Patel that he'd successfully annexed Canada? Ocelot II Nov 6 #4
putative international "cybercrime" against US victims. The Pirate Bay all over again. Eugene Nov 6 #10
Aaron Swartz Clouds Passing Nov 6 #5
May he rest in peace. 🙏 littlemissmartypants Nov 6 #21
Cue French Taunting From the Holy Grail N/T OneBlueDotS-Carolina Nov 6 #6
a criminal attempt to rewrite history RainCaster Nov 6 #7
many inconsistencies in the subpoena RainCaster Nov 6 #8
It's a boilerplate subpoena form filled out by some lackey Ocelot II Nov 6 #9
I posted this on HN IbogaProject Nov 6 #11
Drudge Report links to the us.archive in their story links kimbutgar Nov 6 #12
Just tell them all correspondence if via Signal greblach Nov 6 #13
Why would a business in another country have to obey an FBI subpoena? Run it through the shredder. Vinca Nov 6 #14
I'm not certain what the CRIMINAL charges might be... reACTIONary Nov 6 #15
So you prefer misinformation to preservation of the truth? littlemissmartypants Nov 6 #22
What I prefer is that copyright protections be upheld... reACTIONary Nov 6 #23
Not all archives are created equal. littlemissmartypants Nov 6 #24
I think that the authors of "the truth" should be responsible.... reACTIONary Nov 6 #25
Hahaha! Nice try. littlemissmartypants Nov 6 #27
DU has a specific rule about respecting copyrights in the TOS because violations aren't a joke MichMan Nov 8 #28
That is true. Have you ever alerted on those violations here? littlemissmartypants Nov 8 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Nov 8 #30
So... littlemissmartypants Nov 8 #31
I'm not posting any comments about the TOS other than what it states MichMan Nov 8 #32
Neither am I. But I did respond to your reply and clarified the meaning of my original... littlemissmartypants Nov 8 #33
They post the logo of the German BKA DFW Nov 6 #16
If it is a Canadian domain, are they sending their subpoena to Canada? Bev54 Nov 6 #17
Tucows is a Canadian company, but.... reACTIONary Nov 6 #19
Tucows is a Canadian company, but.... reACTIONary Nov 6 #18
Is there a Russian connection? From the 404 article... reACTIONary Nov 6 #20
I happily use Archive.is every day ... TomWilm Nov 6 #26

Dave Bowman

(6,257 posts)
1. It was my first thought. I hope that they'll fail in their attempts to sweep everything under the rug.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:13 AM
Nov 6

Ocelot II

(128,304 posts)
2. I can't think what the crime might be, and how are they going to enforce a subpoena
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:14 AM
Nov 6

on a Canadian company?

Eugene

(66,598 posts)
10. putative international "cybercrime" against US victims. The Pirate Bay all over again.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:27 AM
Nov 6

This is the opening move in a game of whack-a-mole. The worst that will likely happen is the visible domain being seized by the FBI, RCMP, Europol...


RainCaster

(13,337 posts)
7. a criminal attempt to rewrite history
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:36 AM
Nov 6

The entire world should be up in arms about this. The Canadian government should weigh in and publicize it heavily.

Ocelot II

(128,304 posts)
9. It's a boilerplate subpoena form filled out by some lackey
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:20 AM
Nov 6

who apparently doesn't know that a ordinary FBI subpoena to a foreign business isn't worth the toilet paper it's written on. There are ways to do it that involve seeking permission from the courts of the other country, but this isn't going to do it.

Vinca

(53,027 posts)
14. Why would a business in another country have to obey an FBI subpoena? Run it through the shredder.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:18 PM
Nov 6

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
15. I'm not certain what the CRIMINAL charges might be...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:18 PM
Nov 6

... but the archive.today sites definitely supports the Civil wrong of copyright infringement. The owners of this site should not be kept anonymous, so that they may be sued.

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
23. What I prefer is that copyright protections be upheld...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:18 PM
Nov 6

... for the benefit of the authors and other creators who work to provide the content. That's only fair.

I don't exactly understand your comment about preservation of the truth. Anyone can archive anything on this site, truth be damned. Maybe you could explain.

In any case, this operation seems to be an anonymous one man show run out of Russia with sketchy funding. So no one is going to be suing him for copyright infringement. The only remedy there would be taking down the site for good.

https://gyrovague.com/2023/08/05/archive-today-on-the-trail-of-the-mysterious-guerrilla-archivist-of-the-internet

littlemissmartypants

(30,897 posts)
24. Not all archives are created equal.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:44 PM
Nov 6

How does one preserve truth if not by archive?

Also, there are plenty of books and publications that are not worth the paper that they are printed on.

Have you ever used voice to text? Do you search with a service that uses AI to complete the searches? Have you posted pictures of yourself, your children or your family anywhere on line?

Those are just three examples of the use of privately manufactured information that can be or are used in such a way as to compromise the integrity of their ownership.

Even patents are subject to perusal and copying.

There is nothing new under the sun. But is is the preservation of the truth under the sun that gives us some hope that the world can be built on honesty.

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
25. I think that the authors of "the truth" should be responsible....
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 06:11 PM
Nov 6

... for preserving their truth, and that their wishes in that regard should be respected, in accordance with the provisions of the copyright laws.

I don't think any of your examples are on point. This site is being used to evade paywalls that publishers and authors are using in order to protect their work and to make a living based on their efforts.

That is basically stealing. Is stealing what you mean by archiving? Is stealing the honesty you hope to build a better world upon?

Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #29)

littlemissmartypants

(30,897 posts)
31. So...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 10:44 PM
Nov 8

Even though "DU has a specific rule about respecting copyrights in the TOS because violations aren't a joke," your "alerts get ignored," which suggests that the violations are indeed not taken seriously.

This completely contradicts the assertion that the violations aren't a joke.

I have been alerting on copyright violations here since I got here thirteen years ago. I lost count of the number of times that I have sent such alerts. Never, not once in thirteen years has a single one of those ever resulted in a hide. Not once.

But this is not the issue I was expressing concern about with my original reply and question.

My concern is censorship and the convenient disappearance of unpopular truths. The things that keep us from being bombarded by lies and gaslighting. The demoralizing effects of mis and disinformation (which is propaganda because it's misinformation shared deliberately) and the expensive cost of lost societal cohesiveness are my concerns.

Like the manipulation of information to influence popular opinions and the apathy and confusion that are often a result of such. My worry is that logic, science, and truth will disappear.

I don't want to live on a planet that has regressed into the mindset of the dark ages when fear and myth dominated society because of ignorance and deception.

I don't want to have nothing but conspiracy theories and lies dominating the airwaves, literature, current events and popular opinion because one powerful group has taken it upon themselves to direct and control the free flow of information.

These are my concerns relative to the preservation of the truth.

Thanks for your reply.

❤️

MichMan

(16,279 posts)
32. I'm not posting any comments about the TOS other than what it states
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 10:53 PM
Nov 8
Don't interfere with forum moderation

Don't post messages about site rules, enforcement, juries, hosts, administration, alerts, alerters, removed posts, appeals, locked threads, or anything else related to how this website is moderated (except in the Ask the Administrators forum).
Why we have this rule: The purpose of Democratic Underground is to discuss politics, issues, and current events. Open discussion of how the website is run tends to distract from our core purpose.

littlemissmartypants

(30,897 posts)
33. Neither am I. But I did respond to your reply and clarified the meaning of my original...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:49 PM
Nov 8

Question.

Also, I'm very aware of the TOS, where they are located, and how to read them. Others, however, may find your reiteration of them here, though unatributed, beneficial.

Regardless, if you weren't genuinely interested in my meaning, you displayed a unique way of expressing that.

Have a good night.

DFW

(59,363 posts)
16. They post the logo of the German BKA
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:19 PM
Nov 6

A friend of mine was with the BKA for decades. No paper pusher, he helped set up security from terrorist (real ones, not Trump or Bondi) attacks at embassies, and identify bodies at bombing scenes. I doubt they would bother with BS like this. Maybe “yeah, sure, leave a copy with the receptionist on your way out,” but that’s where it would end.

Bev54

(13,033 posts)
17. If it is a Canadian domain, are they sending their subpoena to Canada?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:27 PM
Nov 6

Canadian companies do not automatically have to comply.

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
19. Tucows is a Canadian company, but....
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:31 PM
Nov 6

...according to their web site, there are 26 Countries our employees work from. So it probably has an American entity that can be subpoenaed.

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
18. Tucows is a Canadian company, but....
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:29 PM
Nov 6

...according to their web site, there are 26 Countries our employees work from. So it probably has an American entity that can be subpoenaed.

reACTIONary

(6,851 posts)
20. Is there a Russian connection? From the 404 article...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:37 PM
Nov 6
Very little is known about the person or people who work on archive.today, though there have been numerous attempts to identify the webmasters. The most interesting is this article on a site called Gyrovague, whose crawling through various archive.today blogs and web presences suggests “it’s a one-person labor of love, operated by a Russian of considerable talent and access to Europe.”

TomWilm

(1,928 posts)
26. I happily use Archive.is every day ...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:23 PM
Nov 6

... do not care who owns it, they deliver a very good service. And once upon a time, Google's cache worked something similar...

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