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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 06:44 AM Nov 6

'We are in uncharted territory:' Agriculture secretary says SNAP benefits could dry up due to the shutdown

Source: Scripps News

Posted 7:15 PM, Nov 05, 2025


The government is reaffirming this week that it will tap into contingency funds to at least partially support SNAP benefits for November, after being compelled by the courts to do so.

But Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins is warning that the program does not have funds available to extend benefits past November.

Sec. Rollins told Scripps News the USDA is working with states to distribute funding, but it could take several weeks for the money to flow.

"We have a patchwork of 50 different projects," Sec. Rollins said. "There are some — a lot of the states have come asking for flexibility. You know, you've got half the funding, do you pro rata that so that the people that are at the lowest end of the socioeconomic ladder, they get more? That's what I would argue. But we're working through the states now trying to do this the best way we can. But obviously we are in uncharted territory. A reminder, our team at USDA is literally working overnight all night trying to get this money out."

Read more: https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/the-president/we-are-in-uncharted-territory-agriculture-secretary-says-snap-benefits-could-dry-up-due-to-the-shutdown

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bucolic_frolic

(53,259 posts)
5. Didn't Trump's GOP Congress
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:35 AM
Nov 6

double SNAP during the pandemic? Which led to empty shelves and higher prices? They should have been more moderate and banked some of that money for the contingency fund.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
6. SNAP gets funding via authorities in the Farm Bill, the current one having expired with the C.R. expiration
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:57 AM
Nov 6
after being added on there as an extension to an extension to the 2023 version that never really got finalized being an extension of the 2018 one.

All those crop and other produce subsidies like MILK are part of that and not a peep out of the M$M about what will happen when those subsidies (appropriated until March 2025 via H.R.10545 - American Relief Act, 2025 and extended with that last lapsed C.R. Sept. 30), that they are obviously still paying out (but amazingly not SNAP), run dry. I.e., the milk prices will skyrocket.

bucolic_frolic

(53,259 posts)
7. Milk has not been much of a budget issue since Nixon's 1972 Re-election campaign
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:10 AM
Nov 6

At least not that I've noticed.

https://watergate.info/1971/03/23/milk-price-subsidies.html/


White House Tapes: Milk Price Subsidies
March 23, 1971

This is the transcript of a White House meeting that discussed milk subsidies.

The meeting was attended by President Richard Nixon, John Connally, John Ehrlichman, Clifford Hardin, John Whitaker, George Schultz, Phil Campbell and Donald Rice.

It took place in the Oval Office from 5.05-5.38pm.

It contains a discussion of the Associated Milk Producers PAC (political action committee) and the electoral value of of milk subsidies for the 1972 election.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
11. Remember this?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:54 AM
Nov 6
Understanding The 'Milk Cliff'

When they started messing with stuff under Obama, each can-kick after that had the M$M spiraling out of control with hysterical "warnings" if a new Farm Bill wasn't passed (or at least extended) - starting back in 2012 and then in 2018, 2023, and more recently with the eventual-extensions in late 2024 and with the last C.R. in March 2025.

But this time, it is being ignored by the M$M -

The Dairy Cliff: Permanent Law Would Spike Milk And Raise Supports


October 07, 2025 02:37 PM • Tony St. James


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (RFD-TV) — If Congress fails to act, farm policy reverts to “Permanent Law” from 1938/1949, forcing USDA to prop up prices using parity-era formulas and tools like nonrecourse loans, government purchases, and (for some crops) quotas.

Dairy would jump first—the mandated purchase price pencils to $49.43/cwt, roughly double recent market levels near $22.80/cwt, creating the well-known “dairy cliff.”

For crops, minimum support levels tied to parity would also rise well above today’s benchmarks: corn ~$7.45/bu (50% of parity), wheat ~$15.08/bu (75%), and upland cotton ~$1.59/lb (65%). Soybeans are not covered under Permanent Law, so no parity support price applies. The USDA would need weeks to establish rules, but the direction is clear—greater intervention, higher federal costs, and market distortions until a new bill or extension is passed.

Some backstops continue, regardless: federally backed crop insurance remains in effect, and many IRA-funded conservation programs are authorized through 2031. But numerous rural development and smaller programs could stall without reauthorization.

(snip)

bucolic_frolic

(53,259 posts)
13. Thanks for the info
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:24 AM
Nov 6

I don't follow policy in depth ... there's Nixon-Milk-campaign contributions, and farm subsidies in my mind. I know the government stopped buying cheese about late 1980s and it is stored in underground caves and was sold to Kraft (I think), but government distribution of food is all handled through private firms (I think) now. That we could revert to 1930s policy is news to me. Congress needs to clean up old laws when they pass new laws. But if lobbyists aren't behind it - $$$$$ - nothing happens.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
14. Every time the Farm Bill appropriations package "expired"
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:53 AM
Nov 6

the media got HYSTERICAL. The search engines have scrubbed much of it but I know there are probably links to articles on DU over the past 10 or so years.

Here's a good summary of the program - A History of Dairy in the Farm Bill and What it Means for the Current Legislation (I think published in 2023).

littlemissmartypants

(30,897 posts)
15. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:19 AM
Nov 6

Have you not noticed that you are in charge of this failing department? It makes you a failure by default, dear. F^ck right off with your bullsh¡t.

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