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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 03:15 AM Nov 5

Stocks and crypto tumble after CEOs raise concerns of a market pullback

Source: NBC News

Nov. 4, 2025, 2:48 PM EST / Updated Nov. 4, 2025, 4:08 PM EST


The global stock rally hit a wall Tuesday, dragged lower by artificial intelligence and tech companies. The S&P 500 fell 1.2% and the Nasdaq declined 2%. The Russell 2000, which tracks smaller companies, tumbled 1.4%.

Gold, a traditional safe haven for investors when markets are volatile or uncertain, dipped about 1.6%. Within the S&P 500, technology was the worst-performing sector.

The largest publicly traded company in the world, Nvidia, dropped nearly 4%. With a market value of more than $4.85 trillion, Nvidia lost $200 billion from its market value.

Crypto also faced steep losses, with bitcoin plunging below $100,000 for the first time since June. The digital currency was down more than 7% as investors fled riskier assets like digital currencies.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/stocks-crypto-gold-tumble-palantir-nvidia-rcna241913



The business sites were blaring breaking banners all Tuesday as this was happening and they were panicking a bit.
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GreatGazoo

(4,295 posts)
1. This is good
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 03:56 AM
Nov 5

Headlines play to emotions but a 2% pullback is healthy.

I was surprised to find out that Nvidia's $5-trillion valuation (now $4.8T) equates to only a 35 P/E. The average for tech companies in the S&P 500 is 40.7 so Nvidia, despite hype and real growth, is a significantly more conservative investment than most.

bucolic_frolic

(53,259 posts)
2. The financial press won't tell you it's all fed by crypto, which has pulled back in recent days.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 05:08 AM
Nov 5

Is crypto creating money every bit as much as any Fed asset purchases could? Crypto is the new QE and the new asset-backed mortgage derivative? AI chips are pricier than gold by far. Crypto may not be greenbacks but they're buying everything in sight.

I'm pondering if this is Delusional Wealth. Crypto, AI "knowledge", AI infrastructure, gold .... It seems like 1979 all over again to me, the age of hard assets in fact, fiction, and film. It was all going to the moon.

But, I think this pullback is temporary. It's AI, and the growth aspects of the businesses involved will reassert as soon as Congress passes a budget. But by April, I expect we'll revisit a more serious stock market correction.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
5. "all fed by crypto" is nonsense. Similarity w 1979 is Supply Shock fr deportations & no-hire-no-fire & tariffs.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 07:38 AM
Nov 5

The "Delusional Wealth" is that the AI bubble (premature over-promise which won't be achieved until the next wave) is propping up the economy. Take data center frenzy away and most of the country would be in recession and people would see the stagflation. The 1970s effect of supply shock of 73 and 79 oil embargos was stagflation. The 2025 supply shock is the drying up of the labour market. Companies are reluctant to fire because of uncertainty and they are reluctant to hire for the same reason. There is less labour on the low end (farm workers, construction labour supply down due to deportation frenzy) and fewer jobs in the middle and high end due to tariff tax impact and TACO uncertainty combined with unrealistic (this time around, not next) expectations for AI productivity. The crypto business is just chasing around new tokens which have little value other than some anonymity.

It would not surprise me if the market will continue up after a pullback. But a bear is coming and could easily come sooner than April. On the other hand I've been saying that since February.

Lonestarblue

(13,125 posts)
3. The crypto house of cards will crash when markets see Trump lose some of his power.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 07:11 AM
Nov 5

Yesterday’s elections sent a message that voters are fed up with Trump. I think the No Kings matches helped raise awareness and convinced enough voters that they could no longer sit on the sidelines or we would all soon see a police state. Those rallies need to continue next year before the midterms, and Senate and House candidates need to participate.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Peak bubble unknowable until well afterwards. One can guess & hedge & use stops to mitigate bear bets. . . nt
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 07:40 AM
Nov 5

IronLionZion

(50,341 posts)
7. Stock prices are high and due for a correction
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 08:08 AM
Nov 5

AI is looking like a bubble that will pop sooner or later. Crypto was always a bad risky investment.

But sure, GOP will blame the 2025 election results but really it's the 2024 election results.

hunter

(40,196 posts)
9. Crypto, AI, and the corporate surveillance state can all go to hell.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:35 PM
Nov 5

Let these unethical and environmentally destructive industries die.

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