There wouldn't be that many crew members. Shit.

I wonder if something got sucked into that engine. Must have been OK as they started the takeoff roll.

Old friend who worked In aviation told me takeoff wax usually ok. Plane either took off or it didn't. Simplification but more things can go wrong go landing than takeoff from. What I have been told.

The hardest thing to master is the landing. That said, takeoff is the most critical phase of flight. When you are landing, you have burned off a lot of fuel weight and the throttles are pulled back at or near idle, so if something goes wrong, you have a lot of thrust in reserve to power through it and perform a missed approach. Not so on takeoff. You are the heaviest the flight will be. The throttles are near max, so there is no large reserve of power. You are at the slowest point in the flight and struggling to both climb and accelerate. If something goes wrong there, you have the thinnest margin for error and a very short time to deal with it.

LiberalArkie posted this youtube that explains is very well.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220776085

I can't help but wonded about funding to ATC but it's unlikely on takeoff

...how used to safe air travel we have become.

The plane that crashed today was a MD-11. It was originally made by McDonnell Douglas--hence the MD badge--and later made by Boeing. It is a very large airplane.

The MD-11 is 200 feet long and 58 feet tall with a wingspan of 169 feet. It has a maximum takeoff weight of around 602,500 lbs., a maximum altitude of 42,000 ft., and a maximum range of up to 7,130 nautical miles.

It can hold 38,615 U.S. gallons of jet fuel. This one was headed to Hawaii and probably close to fully fueled. That is the equivalent of 2,400 passenger cars worth of fuel.

The fact that we can design, build and fly a jet like this--much less do it safely over 99% of the time--is a marvel of modern engineering.

My heart goes out to the families of everyone involved--and to the UPS pilot community. Every pilot I know accepts this risk as part of the job--but would not do anything else.

Hopefully the people on the plane died quickly.

chatter has been that the plane was recently down for maintenance for a month and delayed before flight for two hours for maintenance on the exact engine that fell off.

News coverage this morning said there was an intact engine on the ground. Not sure how that can happen. So very tragic.

The front shroud is in one place and the rest of the engine down some.

The is video from a dash cam of a trucker sitting in a yard and the flaming plane goes across in front of him which is astounding.

I don't know who this poster is, but he had the vids.