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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,983 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 07:41 PM Nov 3

House members release bipartisan 'principles' for extending Obamacare subsidies

Source: Politico

A bipartisan quartet of House lawmakers released a “statement of principles” Monday for a potential compromise on an extension of Obamacare subsidies, which would include a two-year sunset and an income cap for eligibility.

The compromise framework from Republican Reps. Don Bacon of Nebraska and Jeff Hurd of Colorado, and Democratic Reps. Tom Suozzi of New York and Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, is the first public tangible offering on health care policy since the government shutdown began 33 days ago.

Democrats are continuing to insist that any deal to end the shutdown involve an agreement around extending expanded tax credits for Affordable Care Act subsidies that are due to expire at the end of the year. But GOP leaders and President Donald Trump have refused to negotiate on health care until after the government is reopened.

-snip-

The four lawmakers are endorsing a two-year extension of the enhanced tax credits and an income limit on who can qualify for them, which would range from $200,000 to $400,000.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/house-members-release-bipartisan-principles-214155823.html



Which means we may go through this all over again in two years.
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House members release bipartisan 'principles' for extending Obamacare subsidies (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 3 OP
I'll take it, compared to alternative. Wonder when we are going to try for PAYGO Waiver to avoid automatic Medicare cut Silent Type Nov 3 #1
Republicans have no intention of waiving the "pay go" Medicare cut OR dealing with the Social Security shortfall CousinIT Nov 3 #2
They did allow the Waiver in 2017, but haven't seen anyone even request it now. Were we're screwed for 2033 Silent Type Nov 3 #5
Republicans intend to let Medicare be slashed. We need to be demanding that our Repuke reps CousinIT Nov 4 #16
Dems need to lead the charge, not sure why they didn't push it with ACA subsidies. Guess they had their Silent Type Nov 4 #17
Absolutely. I've SCREAMED at them on BlueSky and never got any response. CousinIT Nov 4 #18
In 2 years we might have full control of congress SSJVegeta Nov 3 #3
Just the House would be huge. But, trump could tick everyone off before midterms, so maybe Senate too. Silent Type Nov 3 #6
I give a 20-30% chance of the house flipping before the midterms. SSJVegeta Nov 3 #7
If they have better jobs set up already. Akakoji Nov 3 #11
Bipartisan? Cirsium Nov 3 #4
Tax Cuts: Permanent. Subsidies: Sunset in Two Years Prairie Gates Nov 3 #8
Yeah - WTF? If the Republicans are in control and the ACA subsidies sunset in 2 years, Marie Marie Nov 3 #12
We cannot accept any deal Miguelito Loveless Nov 4 #15
What about SNAP? Why the assumption that the GOP Akakoji Nov 3 #9
Seems like a basis for beginning a real 'discussion', which most Republicans and Jack Valentino Nov 3 #10
Perfect time to put all SNAP benefits back in there. Akakoji Nov 3 #13
I hope the Democrats refuse to swallow that poison pill. cstanleytech Nov 4 #14
At this point in time, I expect every GOPer to go back on their words as soon as it suits Torchlight Nov 4 #19

Silent Type

(11,993 posts)
1. I'll take it, compared to alternative. Wonder when we are going to try for PAYGO Waiver to avoid automatic Medicare cut
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 07:47 PM
Nov 3

of 4% next year, and reinstate Medicaid expansion?

CousinIT

(12,034 posts)
2. Republicans have no intention of waiving the "pay go" Medicare cut OR dealing with the Social Security shortfall
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 07:59 PM
Nov 3

…coming in 2030 - 2033 or so.

They are happy to let seniors just deal with it.

Or, they’ll demand that the Medicare eligibility age be raised and the Social Security retirement age be raised to avoid the cuts. They’re intending to use hurting seniors for leverage to get what they want - which is to keep raising the ages of eligibility until most people die before they’re eligible.

Silent Type

(11,993 posts)
5. They did allow the Waiver in 2017, but haven't seen anyone even request it now. Were we're screwed for 2033
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:54 PM
Nov 3

when Obama tried to do something about the looming deficit during his terms. Even Democrats bashed him.

CousinIT

(12,034 posts)
16. Republicans intend to let Medicare be slashed. We need to be demanding that our Repuke reps
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 03:51 PM
Nov 4

work to get a waiver for it. Time for emails, calls, etc.

Silent Type

(11,993 posts)
17. Dems need to lead the charge, not sure why they didn't push it with ACA subsidies. Guess they had their
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 03:55 PM
Nov 4

reasons.

CousinIT

(12,034 posts)
18. Absolutely. I've SCREAMED at them on BlueSky and never got any response.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 03:58 PM
Nov 4

Even from my own Rep, and I emailed and called them too.

SSJVegeta

(2,042 posts)
3. In 2 years we might have full control of congress
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:08 PM
Nov 3

Or am I being fantastically delusionally optimistic?

Silent Type

(11,993 posts)
6. Just the House would be huge. But, trump could tick everyone off before midterms, so maybe Senate too.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:55 PM
Nov 3

SSJVegeta

(2,042 posts)
7. I give a 20-30% chance of the house flipping before the midterms.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 09:40 PM
Nov 3

Aftyn Behn has a shot if she can raise over a million by the next reporting deadline. If she overcomes the odds it'll bring the Dem total to 216.

There are already at least 3 potential defectors who might flip if given a real opportunity and incentive to do so.

Akakoji

(450 posts)
11. If they have better jobs set up already.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:21 PM
Nov 3

For many of them, this is the best job, work and responsibility free, that they will have. So they'll do whatever they have to to keep it. We're not dealing with principled, normal human beings with decency here.

Marie Marie

(10,722 posts)
12. Yeah - WTF? If the Republicans are in control and the ACA subsidies sunset in 2 years,
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:22 PM
Nov 3

we will never get them back. Why would the Dems propose this? Am I reading this correctly??

Akakoji

(450 posts)
9. What about SNAP? Why the assumption that the GOP
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:16 PM
Nov 3

wants anything to do with this? Dear leader has already said he won't be extorted by Democrats and the needs of the people, can you name a GOP critter with the guts to stand up to the petty dictator?

Jack Valentino

(4,030 posts)
10. Seems like a basis for beginning a real 'discussion', which most Republicans and
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:17 PM
Nov 3

their leadership have thus far refused to do.... while they call us all 'terrorists'!


In two years, we may likely have a Democratic House,
and a Senate which is at the least closer in margin'
than it is right now....


This shutdown has to end eventually,
and this is the first positive sign I have seen or heard about....

Akakoji

(450 posts)
13. Perfect time to put all SNAP benefits back in there.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:24 PM
Nov 3

And leave the Obamacare stuff alone. The only reason they attack it is to erase the legacy and programs of any good things a black person ever did in this country.

Torchlight

(6,145 posts)
19. At this point in time, I expect every GOPer to go back on their words as soon as it suits
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 04:00 PM
Nov 4

And from my little chair, this a pre-announcement to yet another "peace in our time" agreement.

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