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BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:24 AM Nov 3

A Wave of US Layoffs Flash Early Warning Sign for Job Market

Source: Bloomberg

November 3, 2025 at 6:00 AM EST


When Starbucks Corp. fired 900 corporate employees in September, economists hardly batted an eye. After all, the coffee chain had already done a February culling as part of new management’s drive to get the Frappuccino maker back on track. In October, Target Corp. eliminated 1,800 roles to help the beleaguered retailer move faster. For each corporate cutback, there’s been a clear explanation: Amazon.com (14,000 corporate jobs) blamed artificial intelligence; Paramount (1,000 workers) just completed a merger; Molson Coors (400 jobs) can’t get carb-conscious consumers to drink enough beer.

Separately, each announcement can be read as a one-off. Yet taken together, some economists worry that the recent spate of cuts is starting to look a little less like individual belt-tightening and more like a warning sign.

“You’ve got a substantial number of well-established companies making pretty big head cuts,” says Dan North, senior economist at Allianz Trade Americas. You might start to wonder if “these aren’t random.”



It’s been harder than normal to get a grasp on the US labor market lately, with several agencies that produce key economic data, including the Bureau of Labor Statistics, going dark during the government shutdown. Even before that, President Donald Trump’s efforts to downsize the US government left holes in the sprawling federal statistical system. But private datasets have helped fill in some of the gaps.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-03/the-low-hire-low-fire-us-economy-seems-to-be-over?srnd=homepage-americas



No paywall (gift)

They should have mentioned UPS too - UPS cuts 48,000 jobs in the year to date as its turnaround continues

They did include the government in a graph -

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A Wave of US Layoffs Flash Early Warning Sign for Job Market (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 3 OP
Wall Street and the Billionaire class Miguelito Loveless Nov 3 #1
Absolutely. A population of hungry people facing bankruptcy, foreclosure, and needed medical care they can't afford AZJonnie Nov 3 #2
I don't think they love layoffs, but layoffs generally give a quick and brief spike to the bottom line. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 3 #5
Only the beginning ... BlueWavePsych Nov 3 #3
There is some serious mitigation in this article BaronChocula Nov 3 #4
I think many of the business reporters BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #6
I dont wanna get cliche but... BaronChocula Nov 3 #7
"I recall so much prediction of RECESSION during the Biden admin" BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #9
Jamie Dumass BaronChocula Nov 3 #10
I think he did too many "Cry wolf" predictions BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #11
I hope so n/t BaronChocula Nov 3 #12
The Trump recession is coming. dalton99a Nov 3 #8

Miguelito Loveless

(5,356 posts)
1. Wall Street and the Billionaire class
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:26 AM
Nov 3

LOVE layoffs. The more the better. The wails and hunger of the working class is musical to them.

AZJonnie

(2,291 posts)
2. Absolutely. A population of hungry people facing bankruptcy, foreclosure, and needed medical care they can't afford
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:34 AM
Nov 3

are just the sort of folks you prefer to draw from when negotiating an employee's pay package. They're often pleasantly pliable. Amenable, if you will.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,486 posts)
5. I don't think they love layoffs, but layoffs generally give a quick and brief spike to the bottom line.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 02:21 PM
Nov 3

They are a lot easier to accomplish than, say, product development or increased market penetration, or even acquisitions and mergers. In other words, layoffs are a good substitute for doing their damn jobs.

BaronChocula

(3,760 posts)
4. There is some serious mitigation in this article
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 01:39 PM
Nov 3

Particularly this statement:

Separately, each announcement can be read as a one-off. Yet taken together, some economists worry that the recent spate of cuts is starting to look a little less like individual belt-tightening and more like a warning sign.


Meanwhile the graph title is:
Layoffs Already Higher Than for Any Full Year Since 2020


Are there actually any economists who are thinking "it's too early to know if this is any kind of trend or bellwether"?

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
6. I think many of the business reporters
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 02:30 PM
Nov 3

are finding themselves in uncharted territory with the tariffs and some are just fixating on all the bullshit AI moves (which are (prematurely, IMHO) driving some of the layoffs).

I guess they have been trying not to prognosticate too much because they don't have a good "modern" analog situation to compare too.

BaronChocula

(3,760 posts)
7. I dont wanna get cliche but...
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
Nov 3

I recall so much prediction of RECESSION during the Biden admin when overall, things were much more stable. I think part of it was the old prejudice against Dems handling the economy and disbelief (against all data) that a Democratic POTUS could preside over sustained growth. The white nationalists keep getting passes.

In all fairness, most prognosticators currently seem to put their money on an upcoming crash, but many do it with kid gloves.

BumRushDaShow

(163,346 posts)
9. "I recall so much prediction of RECESSION during the Biden admin"
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 04:49 PM
Nov 3

True story but I was literally going to include referring to the biggest (faux) prognosticator of a "pending Recession" of all - "Jamie Dimon"!!

(really... I was gonna include him but you basically summed it up )

BaronChocula

(3,760 posts)
10. Jamie Dumass
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 05:38 PM
Nov 3

Sometimes I think about how I could say anything and everyone would listen if I had a few billion dollars.

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