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Zorro

(18,171 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 01:17 AM Nov 3

U.S. citizen shot from behind as he warned ICE agents about children gathering at bus stop, lawyers say

Source: Los Angeles Times

Leaving his home in Ontario to work at a food bank Thursday morning, Carlos Jimenez pulled over to warn a group of federal agents that they should wrap up their stop of a car quickly because school-age children would soon gather there to take the bus, his lawyers said Sunday.

In the following moments, the attorneys said an ICE officer shot Jimenez, a U.S. citizen and father of three, from behind.

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, said at the time that Jimenez had “attempted to run officers over by reversing directly at them without stopping” and that the shots were “defensive.”

Jimenez, 25, was charged in federal court with assault on a federal officer. A judge released him on bond Friday.

Lawyers for Jimenez offered a counter narrative. They said that Jimenez reversed because he was afraid, then was unnecessarily shot in the back of his right shoulder, where a bullet remains lodged. The agents’ actions were “unreasonably aggressive” and a violation of their own policies, said attorney Robert Simon.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-02/lawyers-say-ice-shot-us-citizen-from-behind-as-he-stopped-to-warn-them-of-childre

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U.S. citizen shot from behind as he warned ICE agents about children gathering at bus stop, lawyers say (Original Post) Zorro Nov 3 OP
Uhhh...what the hell is an ICE Agent doing in Ontario, Canada?! electric_blue68 Nov 3 #1
Ontario, CA Aviation Pro Nov 3 #2
Ontario, California. I used to live out there when my dad worked for Lockheed Aircraft at the Ont. Airport Hekate Nov 3 #3
I traveled there once BlueMTexpat Nov 3 #5
I had just graduated from HS in Hawaii when we moved there in 1965. Culture shock is hardly the word for what I felt... Hekate Nov 3 #15
There is so uch duplication of names among the continents and provinces of North America soldierant Nov 3 #6
Ontario, California, is forty miles East of Los Angeles. John1956PA Nov 3 #7
the 'behind' part really counts for nothing stopdiggin Nov 3 #4
Oink oink questionseverything Nov 3 #18
WTF? malaise Nov 3 #8
Of course they shot him in the back. It's what cowards do. Ray Bruns Nov 3 #9
i.c.e thugs shot an American citizen Marthe48 Nov 3 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author UT_democrat Nov 3 #11
Ontario, California, where I bet Hispanic people Wednesdays Nov 3 #12
Or 20,000 years ago, depending Hekate Nov 3 #16
Believe the American Gestapo ? republianmushroom Nov 3 #13
Ohhh. Duh, lol. Laughing At Myself (not the terrble event). electric_blue68 Nov 3 #14
I don't believe the ICE thugs. They are proven liars again & again. When beating a victim to unconsciousness... Hekate Nov 3 #17
SO many of these stories. TOO many!!! yellow dahlia Nov 3 #19
Re Ontario. It never occured to me that a US town would have a Canadian name. electric_blue68 Nov 4 #20

electric_blue68

(24,911 posts)
1. Uhhh...what the hell is an ICE Agent doing in Ontario, Canada?!
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 02:57 AM
Nov 3

Did Mr Jimmenez cross over into Buffalo, NY, or Detroit, Michigan?
What am I missing here?
It's late; almost 3AM I could be missing something. 😑

Hekate

(100,129 posts)
3. Ontario, California. I used to live out there when my dad worked for Lockheed Aircraft at the Ont. Airport
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:24 AM
Nov 3

The west end of San Bernardino County, close to Upland, Rancho Cucamonga, and Chaffey Community College. Down below Mount Baldy. Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch. Those lawless THUGS.

The other day (in Chicago??) ICE tear-gassed a bunch of children having a Halloween party and kicked in the ribs of a 67 year old man whose car got trapped by ICE vehicles. In front of the KIDS.

I hope they and their godless, soulless, MAGA masters fry in Hell for what they are doing.

BlueMTexpat

(15,645 posts)
5. I traveled there once
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:33 AM
Nov 3

on TDY when I worked for the USG - during the Clinton Era prior to Newt Gingrich's takeover of the House in 1994, when our government still functioned.

Like the first poster, I thought first of Canada, then remembered our own US Ontario in California.

Hekate

(100,129 posts)
15. I had just graduated from HS in Hawaii when we moved there in 1965. Culture shock is hardly the word for what I felt...
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 02:19 PM
Nov 3

Chaffey College was only 5 miles away, ergo I went to Chaffey. It turned out to be an excellent college, and I had some life changing experiences there, as one does at that age.
Took myself back to Hawai’i and the university at Manoa Valley in ‘68, with the intent of staying forever. Visited the folks every year — and they stayed in Cucamonga until after dad retired from Lockheed some 25 years later.
I ended up back in California in 1979, this time on the Central Coast, and here I remain. I am a person who likes living between the mountains and the sea…

soldierant

(9,135 posts)
6. There is so uch duplication of names among the continents and provinces of North America
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:37 AM
Nov 3

that you can practically count on getting confused sometimes. I have lost track of the Springfields, and there are at least four Duluths - Minnesota, Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi each have one, and there may be more. Don't be surprised that Ontarios Canada is not the only Ontario.

I'm oin Colorado but born and raised in California, and in my part of the country we have duplicate place names to cities in Mexico, Central America, and South America. New York and Georgia (and probably others, those just come to mind) have towns and cities named after ancient Greece. Most humans are not exactly original thinkers.

stopdiggin

(14,715 posts)
4. the 'behind' part really counts for nothing
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:31 AM
Nov 3

The germane part of this incident rests more or less entirely with how the vehicle was being operated - and whether that operation was putting people in danger. With a vehicle that is judged a threat to safety/life (and note that I cannot and do not attempt to make judgement there) - the trajectory of shots fired means essentially bupkis.

questionseverything

(11,484 posts)
18. Oink oink
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:13 PM
Nov 3

I remember a time in America when a citizen could walk into a bunch of cops and actually talk to them without risking their lives

Marthe48

(22,362 posts)
10. i.c.e thugs shot an American citizen
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:17 AM
Nov 3

Luckily, the victim isn't dead.

Is Mr. Jimenez the first American citizen shot by i.c.e. thugs? Is this the incident we've feared? An escalation of armed thugs randomly shooting anyone that appears in their sights?

I noticed less news about kidnapping foreign nationals, yet the American military and American thugs remains in American cities.







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Wednesdays

(21,325 posts)
12. Ontario, California, where I bet Hispanic people
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 12:03 PM
Nov 3

...have lived in the area since the 17th century.

republianmushroom

(22,078 posts)
13. Believe the American Gestapo ?
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 12:17 PM
Nov 3

No way in hell with out more evidence they are telling the truth then just their word.

Hekate

(100,129 posts)
17. I don't believe the ICE thugs. They are proven liars again & again. When beating a victim to unconsciousness...
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 02:38 PM
Nov 3

…they claim reflexive movements are “resisting arrest” and “striking an agent. “ When someone in a car has the misfortune to be in the area, one of two things happens — the window is smashed and the driver dragged through it (beatings follow) or, increasingly, their car is deliberately blocked in by ICE vehicles and the driver is accused of attempting to run over the agents.

This (surrounding a car) has happened in California in two counties I have lived in — San Bernardino and Ventura. In both instances that I know of the victims were American. It’s happening in Chicago, where I have never been, but it’s been in the news.

American Gestapo lies. Never believe them against their victims.

electric_blue68

(24,911 posts)
20. Re Ontario. It never occured to me that a US town would have a Canadian name.
Tue Nov 4, 2025, 11:03 AM
Nov 4

And eff ICE goes without saying

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