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demmiblue

(38,946 posts)
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:11 AM Oct 28

Texas Sues Tylenol Makers, Claiming They Hid Autism Risks

Source: NYT

Ken Paxton, the Republican attorney general of Texas, sued the makers of Tylenol on Tuesday, claiming that the companies hid the risks of the drug on brain development of children.

The lawsuit is the latest fallout from President Trump’s claim last month that use of Tylenol during pregnancy can cause autism. That link is unproven.

Mr. Paxton filed the suit against Johnson & Johnson, which sold Tylenol for decades, and Kenvue, a spinoff company that has sold the drug since 2023.

The Texas lawsuit claims that the companies knowingly withheld evidence from consumers about Tylenol’s links to autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. The suit also claims that Kenvue was created to shield Johnson & Johnson from liability over Tylenol.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/28/health/tylenol-autism-texas-lawsuit.html

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Texas Sues Tylenol Makers, Claiming They Hid Autism Risks (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 28 OP
I wish him the best of luck. littlemissmartypants Oct 28 #1
I hope Tylenol sues Texas !!!!!! For 8629 BILLION Dollars !!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Oct 28 #64
Too stupid to even talk about. Botany Oct 28 #2
I believe it's been around forever EYESORE 9001 Oct 28 #8
Autism was first recognized in 1911, but as part of schizophrenia. It was niyad Oct 28 #29
Thank you for your information especially the dates. Botany Oct 28 #32
You are most welcome. Yes, as testing gets better, more cases will be niyad Oct 28 #40
Or his and his mouth breathing followers who went after Dr. Fauci when he changed the protocols for .. Botany Oct 28 #41
How well I remember that insanity. And it still goes on! niyad Oct 28 #52
Maga thinks everybody is lying and cheating them because that's what they do Walleye Oct 28 #3
he doesn't believe this any more than you do... ret5hd Oct 28 #16
Is there any proven link between Tylenol and autism? Yes or no? hadEnuf Oct 28 #4
Increases oxidative stress GreatGazoo Oct 28 #14
Just to point out that seheult, although a board-certified md, seems to be niyad Oct 28 #30
Dr. Seheult is quadruple board-certified through the American Board of Internal Medicine GreatGazoo Oct 28 #45
I was simply stating what was shown when I googled his name. I am niyad Oct 28 #53
It was a sincere question GreatGazoo Oct 29 #65
Do keep trying. As I said, mehmet oz was once highly regarded, with serious niyad Oct 31 #72
And a study of 2.5 million children found zero evidence of a link NickB79 Oct 28 #60
I think you replied to the wrong person. I did not cite that individual. niyad Oct 28 #61
Yep, I did. Sorry bout that NickB79 Oct 28 #62
Seheult details the biological mechanisms by which ASD and other neurological GreatGazoo Oct 29 #66
LOL. "Doctor" Seheult? Really? PSPS Oct 28 #43
Please see my post #45 above GreatGazoo Oct 28 #46
How does this win? LetMyPeopleVote Oct 28 #58
Apparently he finally concluded that the ivermectin, etc., was ineffective. niyad Oct 28 #55
Attorneys are upgrading from Mercedes to Bentley. twodogsbarking Oct 28 #5
'Activist' hedge funds might be orchestrating all of it for profit and control nt lostnfound Oct 28 #20
FFS no_hypocrisy Oct 28 #6
How fu*king stupid can Texas get? Wasting money on a sinkingfeeling Oct 28 #7
Sadly, it's paxton. mwmisses4289 Oct 28 #13
The brand was introduced in 1955 by McNeil Laboratories, However LiberalArkie Oct 28 #9
Paxton or RFK jr.? Paxton or RFK Jr.? Paladin Oct 28 #10
Tylenol makers need to be suing all these assholes. Scrivener7 Oct 28 #11
EXACTLY!!! niyad Oct 28 #31
Yes, we all know how Trump feels about women PatSeg Oct 28 #42
This will backfire on them bigly when Tylenol sues TX for frivolous lawsuit and Tylenol wins!! lark Oct 28 #12
Now We Will See MissouriDem47 Oct 28 #15
He's running against Cornyn in the US Senate primary and is playing to the whacky GOP base. surfered Oct 28 #17
Paxton's quite the opportunist, and Cornyn's been hitting him hard over the affair Torchlight Oct 28 #18
Am I reading this correctly? kenny had an affair? Thank goodness I had niyad Oct 28 #33
His wife had filed for divorce on "biblical grounds" Torchlight Oct 28 #36
Dear Goddess, I had forgotten that. Definitely glad I have not yet eaten! niyad Oct 28 #54
Texas is posterchild for the tragicomic political theatre that is the United States right now. marmar Oct 28 #19
Cant read the whole article. Who are the plaintiffs? State or victims? GusBob Oct 28 #21
Sharing full story: milestogo Oct 28 #22
Tylenol has plenty of warnings on their bottles about potential side effects. cstanleytech Oct 28 #23
Ken is just trying to get some publicity ashredux Oct 28 #24
This is what Johnson and Johnson get for not suing the crap out of RFK jr when Ray Bruns Oct 28 #25
J & J sold tylenol to kenvue in 2022. niyad Oct 28 #28
Then Kenvue should be suing RFK Jr. Ray Bruns Oct 28 #37
good. now let's depose rfk and his "scientists' rampartd Oct 28 #26
Just continuing the conspiracy theories of these crazy people walkingman Oct 28 #27
WTF. I wish this wasn't that surprising though. Jbraybarten Oct 28 #34
The risks were made up by rfk jr Anxy Oct 28 #35
Welcome to DU. area51 Oct 28 #39
Concur. He's deranged. ... littlemissmartypants Oct 28 #48
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Oct 28 #59
Welcome to DU, Anxy. 👋 littlemissmartypants Oct 31 #69
What about stupidity? Pas-de-Calais Oct 28 #38
Paxton sues everybody. hamsterjill Oct 28 #44
Who are the medical experts? bmichaelh Oct 28 #47
I assume that Kenvue's lawyers will start moving toward a motion for sanctions for filing a frivolous complaint. TomSlick Oct 28 #49
Shakedown. jeffreyi Oct 28 #50
Omg. Could Paxton possibly Alliepoo Oct 28 #51
Paxton leads the idiocracy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 28 #56
Paxton and RFK jr are idiots LetMyPeopleVote Oct 28 #57
"He wants to line the pockets of every trial lawyer in the state. He ran off all of his professional staff." mahatmakanejeeves Oct 28 #63
Anybody stupid enough to take Paxton's pharmaceutical advice... Paladin Oct 29 #67
RFK Jr may be expert witness for Tylenol LetMyPeopleVote Oct 30 #68
Wouldn't Texas have to prove that there ARE risks in the first place and THEN prove that Tylenol also knew... QueerDuck Oct 31 #70
Tylenol should give paxton 4 hours to Come forward with their apology, THEN bluestarone Oct 31 #71

Trueblue1968

(18,962 posts)
64. I hope Tylenol sues Texas !!!!!! For 8629 BILLION Dollars !!!!!!!!!
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:45 PM
Oct 28

I have take tylenol. I have congestive heart failure and can't take ibuprofen. Can only take a little bit of aspirin.

Botany

(75,880 posts)
2. Too stupid to even talk about.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:17 AM
Oct 28

Autism was 1st diagnosed in the early 1900s and Tylenol was not made until the 1940s or ‘50s.

EYESORE 9001

(29,296 posts)
8. I believe it's been around forever
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:30 AM
Oct 28

It’s been attributed to genius, to idiocy, and to madness over the centuries.

niyad

(128,540 posts)
29. Autism was first recognized in 1911, but as part of schizophrenia. It was
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:17 AM
Oct 28

first diagnosed as a separate condition in 1943. Although the drug wa produced in in 1955, J&J bought the McNeil company in 1959, and tylenol became available over the counter in 1960.

Botany

(75,880 posts)
32. Thank you for your information especially the dates.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:29 AM
Oct 28

I think we might be seeing more cases of Autism and its spectrum as the diagnosing of it gets better.



niyad

(128,540 posts)
40. You are most welcome. Yes, as testing gets better, more cases will be
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:58 AM
Oct 28

found. krasnov knows this. .do not forget his comments about, and refusal to fund, testing for covid.

Botany

(75,880 posts)
41. Or his and his mouth breathing followers who went after Dr. Fauci when he changed the protocols for ..
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 11:04 AM
Oct 28

…. dealing with and treating C-19. And why did he and other scientists do that? Because as they learned
more about the virus, the disease, and vaccines the data changed so they changed what they doing.

And where did these right wing anti science mouth breathers get their misinformation? Russia.

Walleye

(43,207 posts)
3. Maga thinks everybody is lying and cheating them because that's what they do
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:19 AM
Oct 28

Last edited Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Paxton is a maniac. It must be terrible to live in a place where you don’t trust anybody.

ret5hd

(22,000 posts)
16. he doesn't believe this any more than you do...
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:13 AM
Oct 28

just a bandwagon to jump on pay attention to me right wing grift maybe someone will bribe me etc etc etc

hadEnuf

(3,459 posts)
4. Is there any proven link between Tylenol and autism? Yes or no?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:25 AM
Oct 28

I'm under the impression that this is another insane conspiracy from the heroine ravaged mind of Kennedy, but is there any basis in fact?

GreatGazoo

(4,295 posts)
14. Increases oxidative stress
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:01 AM
Oct 28

Acetaminophen exhausts the body's supply of glutathione and then can reach toxic levels quickly.

ASD aside, Tylenol is a leading cause of ER admissions -- 56,000 per year. Not as safe as most believe.

niyad

(128,540 posts)
30. Just to point out that seheult, although a board-certified md, seems to be
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:27 AM
Oct 28

primarily recognized as an internet personality. And his medcram channel is apparently a very expensive course, although I was not able to find the board certifications for it on a cursory search.

GreatGazoo

(4,295 posts)
45. Dr. Seheult is quadruple board-certified through the American Board of Internal Medicine
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:26 PM
Oct 28

1. Internal Medicine,
2. Pulmonary Diseases,
3. Critical Care Medicine and
4. Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine

His current practice is in Beaumont, California where he is a critical care physician, pulmonologist, and sleep physician at Beaver Medical Group. He was formerly the Director for Intensive Care Services at San Gorgonio Memorial Hospital. He lectures routinely across the country at conferences and for medical, PA, and RT societies. He graduated Magna Cum Laude with majors in Chemistry and Biology. Both of his parents were medical doctors.

>his medcram channel is apparently a very expensive course< ??

Courses are $85 each or $229 per year for unlimited. Continuing Education is required for most medical doctors and MedCram courses are accredited for Category 1 CME, MOC Points, CE, & CRCE. His courses are among the lowest priced in the industry despite the high quality and are regularly used by entire hospitals and groups including Loma Linda University School of Medicine, and UC Riverside School of Medicine because the instructors, like Seheult are the top in their field and hail from Stanford University School of Medicine, John Hopkins, National Institutes of Health , La Jolla Institute for Immunology, Center for Infectious Disease and Vaccine Research, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital and others.

https://www.medcram.com/pages/instructors

He worked his ass off in ER and the ICU throughout the peak of Covid19. His passion is to make health education free and understandable to all.

So do you still think Seheult is "primarily...an internet personality"?


NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/25/927564413/researchers-learning-more-about-how-the-coronavirus-sabotages-blood-vessels?fbclid=IwAR09HbP10NTX_vX7mTqnr3E73TxoJgCNOqIn7Ot9hTfUyBnWV5jceRQJ5Q8










niyad

(128,540 posts)
53. I was simply stating what was shown when I googled his name. I am
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:01 PM
Oct 28

well aware of his credentials, since I did actually look them up, and not simply go by the first thing I saw. And the comment about the expense was not mine, but in some of the reviews of that youtube channel, so kindly skip the snide questions, and implied insult.

I will remind you that mehmet oz also had excellent credentials, and was once highly regarded. Am I putting seheult in the same category? Not without further information, which, for all I know, would show him exactly as you see him.

GreatGazoo

(4,295 posts)
65. It was a sincere question
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 07:56 AM
Oct 29

If 4 active certifications from major healthcare institutions and having hundreds of practicing medical doctors as clients are not proof enough of his reputation and qualifications then perhaps something else is your issue here.

My family is full of health care professionals -- MDs, LNPs. My BIL is a GP who does pro bono and sliding scale work for clients that can't afford the broken US medical system. My first spouse was an LNP who got his certifications in 1985 at age 46 because other doctors would not care for AIDS patients. He wound up doing a lot of hospice. An incredibly strong and hard working person. Seheult worked ER and ICU in Riverside CA at height of covid. I am tired of people attacking medical professionals whenever they don't like what the science says. It is a logical fallacy to think that an ad hom on one medical educator "debunks" meta analysis done by dozens of certified professionals in dozens of countries.

If you had watched even 2 mins of Seheult and you would have seen why he is trusted and paid by hundreds of doctors and medical institutions to do their Continuing Education.

>the comment about the expense was not mine< ?? "I will remind you" that you posted it.

You are an intelligent person so you have to know what an insult it is to be compared to Oz who does multi-level marketing (ugh) and sells snake oil DTP.

niyad

(128,540 posts)
72. Do keep trying. As I said, mehmet oz was once highly regarded, with serious
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 03:53 PM
Oct 31

credentials. And any serious medical professional who swallowed the horse paste bullshit for even a minute has lost credibility in my book. Your posts seem to indicate some serious investment in his reputation, so I will not trouble you further.

GreatGazoo

(4,295 posts)
66. Seheult details the biological mechanisms by which ASD and other neurological
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 08:27 AM
Oct 29

disorders can arise during pregnancy. He includes studies that found no correlation, studies with negative correlation and studies with positive correlation.

Correlation is, of course, not causation and Seheult goes through the proposed mechanisms (causation) by which acetaminophen can contribute to the development of ASD. He cites meta analysis (a study of studies, the gold standard) which incorporates the study you mention. The meta analysis was done by Diddier Prada, Beate Ritz, Ann Z. Bauer & Andrea A. Baccarelli and includes the 2.5 million of the smaller study.

The meta analysis was reprinted by Harvard and other major health institutions:
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/

The lengthy study is summarized by the authors as follows:

Results

We identified 46 studies for inclusion in our analysis. Of these, 27 studies reported positive associations (significant links to NDDs), 9 showed null associations (no significant link), and 4 indicated negative associations (protective effects). Higher-quality studies were more likely to show positive associations. Overall, the majority of the studies reported positive associations of prenatal acetaminophen use with ADHD, ASD, or NDDs in offspring, with risk-of-bias and strength-of-evidence ratings informing the overall synthesis.

Conclusions

Our analyses using the Navigation Guide thus support evidence consistent with an association between acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy and increased incidence of NDDs. Appropriate and immediate steps should be taken to advise pregnant women to limit acetaminophen consumption to protect their offspring’s neurodevelopment.


Peer reviews are linked from the study (right under conclusions )

https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0


ETA: Current science is not saying that Tylenol causes ASD directly, nor that Tylenol use is the only way that ASD begins. Only that its use should be limited during pregnancy and that safer alternatives should be developed.

PSPS

(15,103 posts)
43. LOL. "Doctor" Seheult? Really?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:15 PM
Oct 28

Maybe your post was sarcastic but, in case it isn't, you should be aware that this guy is a quack. He was promoting the hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin nonsense as well as many other unproven "treatments." He's just barely above the level of trustworthiness than bob jr. himself.

LetMyPeopleVote

(172,659 posts)
58. How does this win?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:24 PM
Oct 28

The guy is a quack Ivermectin does nothing with COVID or other diseases Has this quack published any peer reviewed reports A quack with degrees is a still a quack. Show us some peer reviewed studies to support this quack’s insane claims

niyad

(128,540 posts)
55. Apparently he finally concluded that the ivermectin, etc., was ineffective.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:18 PM
Oct 28

It seemss he now recommends sunlight and hydrotherapy,, followed by a brief, cold shock.

mwmisses4289

(2,782 posts)
13. Sadly, it's paxton.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:51 AM
Oct 28

Loves to waste texas taxpayer money on frivolous lawsuit, and will only go in front of his favorite judges to have the cases heard. I lost track of how many lawsuits he filed against Obama and Biden over some policy of theirs he didn't like.

LiberalArkie

(19,119 posts)
9. The brand was introduced in 1955 by McNeil Laboratories, However
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:31 AM
Oct 28

Paracetamol (Acetaminophen) was first made in 1878 by Harmon Northrop Morse or possibly in 1852 by Charles Frédéric Gerhardt. It is the most commonly used medication for pain and fever in both the United States and Europe.[48] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. Paracetamol is available as a generic medication, with brand names including Tylenol and Panadol among others. In 2023, it was the 112th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 5 million prescriptions.

Paladin

(32,023 posts)
10. Paxton or RFK jr.? Paxton or RFK Jr.?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:32 AM
Oct 28

Help me out folks---which one of these guys should I be relying on for critical medical advice?

I knew it would be bad, but I never dreamed it would sink to this level. I want my country back, by whatever means necessary.

Scrivener7

(57,827 posts)
11. Tylenol makers need to be suing all these assholes.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:35 AM
Oct 28

Part of this message is: "Pregnant women, when you feel pain suck it up." Of course. If this were about men's pain, this wouldn't be happening.

PatSeg

(51,491 posts)
42. Yes, we all know how Trump feels about women
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 11:20 AM
Oct 28

What a crude, obnoxious thing to say even for Trump.

lark

(25,707 posts)
12. This will backfire on them bigly when Tylenol sues TX for frivolous lawsuit and Tylenol wins!!
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 07:41 AM
Oct 28

They are so spectacularly stupid - this will show the world the true magat stupidity and will get laughed at madly!

surfered

(10,296 posts)
17. He's running against Cornyn in the US Senate primary and is playing to the whacky GOP base.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:14 AM
Oct 28

He’s like Gov Abbott, it’s all performative with no substance. They’re a menace.

Torchlight

(6,145 posts)
18. Paxton's quite the opportunist, and Cornyn's been hitting him hard over the affair
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:19 AM
Oct 28

Paxton's doing this for fluff and color and perv-cred, but he pulls the idiot antivaxxers along with him.

Torchlight

(6,145 posts)
36. His wife had filed for divorce on "biblical grounds"
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:46 AM
Oct 28

for an affair with a religious "influencer" and mom of around six or seven kids (she was married too). Part of his impeachment proceedings dealt with a previous affair of his, trying to pressure state workers to employ his mistress.

Messy stuff in TX this past summer.

marmar

(79,029 posts)
19. Texas is posterchild for the tragicomic political theatre that is the United States right now.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:19 AM
Oct 28

ashredux

(2,807 posts)
24. Ken is just trying to get some publicity
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:38 AM
Oct 28

He wants to run for the US Senate… he is just a major crook, he should actually be in jail. Typical GOP from Texas.

Ray Bruns

(5,788 posts)
25. This is what Johnson and Johnson get for not suing the crap out of RFK jr when
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:50 AM
Oct 28

He made that stupid announcement.

walkingman

(10,109 posts)
27. Just continuing the conspiracy theories of these crazy people
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:56 AM
Oct 28

because in Texas he knows he has a captive audience. So embarrassing.

bmichaelh

(1,047 posts)
47. Who are the medical experts?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:38 PM
Oct 28

Who will be the medical experts that he will call?

Trump and RFK Jr do not qualify.

Not sure why Tylenol not pursuing legal remedies against the Trump administration.

TomSlick

(12,812 posts)
49. I assume that Kenvue's lawyers will start moving toward a motion for sanctions for filing a frivolous complaint.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:40 PM
Oct 28

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,480 posts)
63. "He wants to line the pockets of every trial lawyer in the state. He ran off all of his professional staff."
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:08 PM
Oct 28
Eric Michael Garcia
‪@ericmgarcia.bsky.social‬

I asked John Cornyn about this and he said about Paxton suing Tylenol’s company
“He wants to line the pockets of every trial lawyer in the state. He ran off all of his professional staff, and now he has to hire trial lawyers, so and they're some of his biggest supporters.”

‪Phil Lewis‬
‪@phillewis.bsky.social‬
· 12h
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Johnson and Johnson, the makers of Tylenol

Texas sues Tylenol company over autism claims
This lawsuit comes a month after U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. updated guidance discouraging pregnant women from taking acetaminophen, citing it as a possible cause of autism.
www.texastribune.org
October 28, 2025 at 2:10 PM

I asked John Cornyn about this and he said about Paxton suing Tylenol’s company
“He wants to line the pockets of every trial lawyer in the state. He ran off all of his professional staff, and now he has to hire trial lawyers, so and they're some of his biggest supporters.”

Eric Michael Garcia (@ericmgarcia.bsky.social) 2025-10-28T18:10:47.877Z


Phil Lewis
‪@phillewis.bsky.social‬

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Johnson and Johnson, the makers of Tylenol

Texas sues Tylenol company over autism claims
This lawsuit comes a month after U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. updated guidance discouraging pregnant women from taking acetaminophen, citing it as a possible cause of autism.
www.texastribune.org
October 28, 2025 at 9:39 AM

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Johnson and Johnson, the makers of Tylenol

Phil Lewis (@phillewis.bsky.social) 2025-10-28T13:39:55.916Z

Paladin

(32,023 posts)
67. Anybody stupid enough to take Paxton's pharmaceutical advice...
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 09:04 AM
Oct 29

...would probably seek guidance from him on adhering to marital fidelity.

QueerDuck

(617 posts)
70. Wouldn't Texas have to prove that there ARE risks in the first place and THEN prove that Tylenol also knew...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 01:34 PM
Oct 31

and actively hid them? Or is this meant to assume (without proof) that Tylenol causes autism, and then Johnson & Johnson is being asked to "prove a negative" ???

Proving-a-negative isn't how our court system is supposed to work, right? The person making the positive assertion must prove it's true. The accused doesn't need to prove it to be false, right?

I do not think that Texas will be successful at doing anything other than making lawyers rich and intentionally harming the reputation of the company and the product. They will be the equivalent of the fellow who put cyanide in Tylenol capsules back in the early 80's.

bluestarone

(20,783 posts)
71. Tylenol should give paxton 4 hours to Come forward with their apology, THEN
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 31

Sue for 1 BILLION dollars Edit to add I mean sue him personally, plus the state of TEXAS.

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