. . . would be a major mistake for her to run again. Former Sec Clinton might as well run again, if former VP Harris is taking this "possibly" as serious. Sec Clinton was ten times the candidate that VP Harris was. Either way, both would certainly suppress the voter turnout by a complete lack of enthusiasm for them, and both attempts would usher the next MAGA GOP monstrosity into the White House.

Of course, it depends on who also runs... if it's AOC, she'll be the nominee without question.

However, what we really need is a big fucking bully that makes every repug look like the greedy fascist idiots they truly are. If you can find that candidate, let me know. If the nominee did turn out to be Harris of course I would support her but I fear it won't be enough. Should it come to pass, I'll happily proclaim myself full of shit.

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I'm thinking of a possible ticket involving him and either Governor Newsom or Governor Beshear of Kentucky

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and I thought, this is the kind of guy who could win some Southern states for the Democrats. He's got a really good head on his shoulders.

She won't win the nomination; Gavin will and I'll support him.

I have lived all throughout the west. California is not looked upon fondly in many places. Californians I general are seen as a bit strange at best, full blown weirdos at worst.

We need a candidate from the Midwest who can appeal to a broader group of people.

I grew up across the Ohio from Kentucky. It ain't the Midwest.

It sounds shallow, but if he wants to beat Newsom, Pritzger should get on GLPs now.

But I don't see how we dare take a risk like that.

If she could have won - she would have. She does not appeal to a huge voting block in the country. Running D’s from California is not a good nation-wide strategy.

She would kick ass... but then so would a number of progressive candidates.

when she ran for the nomination in 2019/20 her campaign fell flat. We need someone that not only has an excellent track record, but can also communicate their message effectively.
My biggest problem with Newsome is his track record on transgender issues. He needs to get better on them before I would vote for him in the primaries.

For awhile I thought that this country could never elect a woman president. I was so bitter. Now I am feeling better and I think we'll have one soon enough. I hope I live long enough to see it!

ardent supporters and we will see either Kamala or another Democrat who is a woman our candidate and she will win the next election. I hope I live to see it.

AOC has her eyes on Schumer's seat.
Right now the way this country is, I don't think any woman would have a chance at winning the presidency. There are too many misogynist, and racists out there that will do whatever they can do doom a female candidate.
If I still lived in NY, I would want her as my Senator, not as a candidate for President. I think she can do more as a senator then as a presidential candidate.

Nothing is easy.

not elect a woman president. It breaks my heart to say this. I will not vote for her in the primary much as I like her.

of people every day. There's a storm coming and tsf and JD are gonna be swept out of office on it. If Trump doesn't blow up the world I am sure he and JD will gone somehow after they piss off one group, and then the next, and the next, and so on. They're doing that nicely right now...

The donors won’t back her, and it’s likely the donors and the current DNC power structure will insist on a straight white male (not named Shapiro or Newsom).

I hope to see a woman in the WH in my lifetime, but it won’t be Harris, and it won’t be in 2028.

He’s ready. Extremely likeble, and effective as a red state governor. Straight White Male, Christian, hard core Democrat who will listen to and negotiate with and include others, but his ethics and beliefs are not for sale. He will not change who he is, or what he says or believes, based on the desire to win.

At this point, my sense is the odds, and the donors, will favor Beshear and Chris Murphy.

In this era that is a big problem.

And she would have made a fantastic president. But I don’t think she should run. There are too many racists and misogynists in the U.S. And, this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think she fought hard enough to make sure the election was legitimate. I’ll never believe he actually won all the swing states, plus there were all the bomb threats at the voting places, plus the fact he told his followers they’d never have to vote again, etc., etc., etc. We need an extreme fighter as our candidate next time because they are going to fight really dirty and do everything in their power (including cheat) to make sure they win.

Or Mark Kelly or Andy Beshear.

about Newsom, never have been. I do like Beshear, Pritzker, and Mark Kelly.

in this nation's history, and in only 107 days.

But the last thing we need is a black woman running again. Sad to say, we need a white male to be competitive, particularly now in this racist, sexist, divided country. He probably needs to be straight too, and seen as not TOO liberal.

As always I maintain hope that someday this will change. But right now we must get the White House back from the clutches of the extreme right and that is far more important than making an unsuccessful statement about our inclusiveness.

We have to wait and see, of course, but judging by the drift of things now it's gonna be Newsom. I am willing to bet he'll try for a woman VP since the Dem base has a lot of women (and getting more each time tsf and the other repukes try to limit women's rights even further).

isn't from "cALiFoRnIa" (a stupid minus) and is also from the Midwest. I'll happily vote for whomever, but I think at the end of the day, it's going to be a challenging mix of appeal, charisma, geography, fight (as in the fight in the candidate to bring it) and policy.

She’s welcome to run though. It will be a wide open race.

It's too early to say no right now though becsuse you never know how things will be in the future.

God help us.

I was hoping the comments would be more entertaining.

As much as I, as we all, would like to believe that men and certain groups will vote for a woman as President, they just will not. Harris is more than qualified. She's overqualified. But she is still a woman. A Black woman. It will not happen. Stupid, racist, sexism is hardwired into the brains of a huge number of Americans. Indeed, the world.

The dems really dropped the ball after Don's conviction. They should have started calling him Felon 34 & her campaign certainly should have picked up on it, but no, we all just let that perfect nickname slip away. We should still be calling him that.

From my yard last fall.

I hope it's Gavin though.

I pains me to say it but we lost many independent men to Trump because they could not stomach voting for a woman.

(FIY - I'm a woman)

Tells you who she talks to IMO, in other words the same type of people who helped her to defeat last year.

And before you jump on me I thought she performed mostly admirably under very difficult circumstances. “Mostly” because while she delivered a debate performance for the ages she received and accepted fatally bad communications advice; what to say, when to say it, how often to say anything at all and who to say it to. She is cautious to a fault, which is not a bad trait for a prosecutor, but a total non-starter for anyone who wants to crack the contemporary code and win nationally right now.

I agree that the over-caution and communications strategy was too defensive. She seems to understand that a fundamental change is needed.

immediately fade away into irrelevancy.

It makes me gag a little, but I think it's true. I think dem leadership & donors will make sure a woman will never be at the top of our ticket until we win the presidency again. The right black or Latino male might get a nod, but the ladies will be sitting out many dances.

Bill Clinton said. The first woman to be President will be a Republican.

If it happens, it will be painful. Would I rather no woman be elected president over a repub one? I might.

(lifelong political junkies) called the winning 2020 ticket back in 2018.

Right now, my money would be on Pritzker...except for the fact that people inherently knee-jerk discriminate against anyone who is overweight, and anti-billionaire sentiment may get a lot worse by 2028.

Buttigieg would be amazing, but I fear too many closet bigots would tank his candidacy...he will, one day when we EVOLVE as a country, make a fantastic chief exec.

And I love Kamala fiercely, but agree that we (sadly) can't risk running anyone but a straight, white dude for 2028 (and that's coming from someone who supported her in the primary in 2019/2020). She was one of the most qualified people ever to run, but I remain really surprised that she didn't fight harder to ensure the accuracy of this last election. Too many math problems IMHO with the purported outcome - all seven swing states, and all just above the margin needed to trigger a recount? The fact that he IMPROVED his vote count in 90% of counties after EVERYTHING he has done???

For those who say it's a CT, sorry, but I'm watching the Rockland County lawsuit and the comments by both Eloon and the orange hellbeast in the run-up never sat right with me. He always cheats and he tells on himself, so I don't see why that should be any different with respect to the election.

Sadly, I don't even think FDR could be elected now due to his disability. "Central casting" appearance seems more important than substance anymore and we're all the worse off for it. I blame reality TV for a lot of our current ills.

My biggest fear is that Newsom (my governor, who I mostly love save those poor choices of giving extremists a platform on his podcast and his comments about trans folk) will win the primary but lose the general. There is JUST so much fear-mongering about "librul California elitists" and, unfortunately, many of those in the fly-over states (most of whom have never even set foot here) buy into the b.s. that our entire state has devolved into a sh!thole of homelessness, violence and "woke" (whatever that actually means).

Those who say we must run a straight white male have a defeatist attitude. They have already surrendered.

Kamala was a great candidate running in a terrible situation. She should have had two years to campaign but had little over two months. She showed herself to be very smart and qualified. She was the most adept debater anyone has seen in recent elections. She did her homework and was running 26 hours a day, always smiling. She is also very well positioned to hold the Democratic coalition.

I look forward to seeing how she approaches this. It looks good so far.

And I hope she picks AOC or Jasmine Crockett as a running mate. For those who think this would be crazy, you are part of the problem. Many young people see the Democratic Party as being too risk-adverse. We need to put our best foot forward and show great confidence in our ideas and in our very best leaders. If we are defensive we are losing.

can run for President. A woman can run, because two women already have. Check that box. Next time around, voters are used to seeing a woman run for POTUS so they are more comfortable with the idea. Then, you run a very competent woman alongside her running mate who is another competent woman. Even if they don't win, we have just normalized two women running on the same ticket, just as the men who have run.

Voila, you have just normalized the two woman ticket for President and Vice President of the United States!

I love Kamala, was proud to vote for her---but she's damaged goods at this point, and the very last thing Democrats should be doing now is supporting damaged goods. We've got a country to save. Plenty of first-rate Democrats from which to choose.

I don't think that is a good idea.

Has she forgotten about 2000?

Harris repeats false claim 2024 was ‘closest’ election in 21st century

The 21st century actually started on January 1, 2001, since there was no year zero in the Gregorian calendar we use. So Kamala's claim is technically true.

But Hillary’s electoral vote count was much closer than Kamala’s. It was only three states that separated her and Trump, by roughly 80 thousand votes between them.

Besides, it’s an odd claim for Kamala to make and it’s also meaningless. She still lost, and she lost every swing state.

2004 was closer too.

Bush won the popular vote in 2004, but had Ohio gone the other way…

Just like it wasn't safe for Hillary to run again. I hate being negative because I really loved both of those candidates. They each ran nearly flawless campaigns, but it wasn't meant to be. America isn't ready for a woman president, that's all there is to it. I'd say the same if the Repukes ran a woman candidate.

The reason it's not safe is because too many nuts are running around with guns. And social media is basically out of control here, and that's why Chump gets away with so many lies of his own.

And there is no other woman who has the name recognition that Kamala has. IMO, we have Kamala and haven't presented another woman as a candidate so we can go with Kamala first. Trump is crazy, he is pissing more and more people off every day and if we survive him nobody will want to ever see him again. At least, that's my ideal scenario...

But if it turns out to be Kamala, I will live in dread that something awful will happen.

He seems to be unbothered by the potential threat to his life by running, tho.

So her false statement that it was the closest election of the 20th century is fine? We shouldn't point it out? If Trump said something like that, should it slide?

If you replied to my post by accident (or mean something else), I will self-delete.

Your point about the 2000 election being so close, is absolutely correct. No disagreement there.

Even though Kamala is showing a lot of courage, and maybe she thinks she has a chance to win in 2028. I really hope she decides against it, for the reasons I stated above.

I want someone who will stand in front of a crowd and speak truth.

I want someone who will talk about guns and butter and not fake “social” issues.

I want someone who will look ole JD or whoever in the eye and say you lied! You lied to the American people over and over and over.

I want someone to stand up and talk about America and what it means to BE an American.

I want someone who will never ever say the Orange Anus’ name in any campaign debate or speech again.

regime. IMO this is where she will make her mark and establish her legacy. And just think of the revenge she'll privately enjoy as prosecutor of the regime that stole her presidency.