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BumRushDaShow

(161,211 posts) Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:40 PM 6 hrs ago

Judge Won't Immediately Block Trump Troop Deployment to Illinois

Source: Bloomberg Law News

Oct. 6, 2025, 4:09 PM EDT

A federal judge declined to quickly issue a temporary order blocking the Trump administration's plan to deploy National Guard members to Chicago to counter protests against the US immigration crackdown, while urging the government to delay the controversial plan until she rules.

US District Judge April Perry on Monday said she could not rule immediately on a request by the state of Illinois for a temporary order that would block for at least two weeks the deployment of federalized National Guard troops from Illinois and Texas. She set a hearing for Thursday for arguments on the request.

Perry, an appointee of former President Joe Biden, said she was "troubled" by the administration's lack of clarity about where exactly the troops would be mobilizing and what they would be doing. But she said she needed to give the government time to review the filings and respond in writing before she issues a decision in the case, which was filed earlier in the day.

"In the meantime, we'll wait," the judge said. "If I were the government, I would strongly consider taking a pause on this until Thursday, so we are not in a position where we're doing a full-fledged hearing with whatever has happened."

Read more: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/illinois-sues-to-block-national-guard-deployment-to-chicago-area

One of those - "it hasn't happened yet" rulings.

REFERENCE - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143542711

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Judge Won't Immediately Block Trump Troop Deployment to Illinois (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago OP

It doesn't matter. The judge on the Portland case blocked ALL deployments Mr.WeRP 6 hrs ago #1

Then I'm confused. Karma13612 6 hrs ago #3

Both, of course. Mr.WeRP 6 hrs ago #5

Each district is seperate until the appeals process sets national precedent IbogaProject 6 hrs ago #7

WTF? greatauntoftriplets 6 hrs ago #2

From what I've read................ Lovie777 6 hrs ago #4

This Biden judge is following the law, giving the defendants time to justify themselves. Which they can't and won't. ancianita 6 hrs ago #6

I know in the Oregon case BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #8

True. But remember that civil warmonger Abbott said he'll send his to IL. But as you say, not yet. ancianita 5 hrs ago #9

Many of the earliest suits against 45 back in February and March for all kinds of illegalities, had been thrown out BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #10

Yes. I hope the judge also keeps the general NG 'landscape' in mind as she hears the defense. ancianita 5 hrs ago #11

"If I were the government, I would strongly consider taking a pause on this until Thursday" LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #12

There is a hearing on Thursday LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #13

She seemed to hint that if they tried to do something BEFORE Thursday BumRushDaShow 4 hrs ago #14

There used to be a concept called presumption of regularity that the trump DOJ has thrown away LetMyPeopleVote 3 hrs ago #15

Mr.WeRP

(986 posts)

1. It doesn't matter. The judge on the Portland case blocked ALL deployments

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:43 PM

6 hrs ago

Because Trump circumvented her ruling

Karma13612

(4,830 posts)

3. Then I'm confused.

Reply to Mr.WeRP (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:50 PM

6 hrs ago

Which order do they have to follow? The one where the “judge on the Portland cased blocked ALL Deployments”
Or the one listed in this article saying the judge will not block Trump troop deployment until the judge can review all the facts.

Mr.WeRP

(986 posts)

5. Both, of course.

Reply to Karma13612 (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:52 PM

6 hrs ago

Each order must be obeyed. Since one is more strict, he must obey the most strict order.

IbogaProject

(5,109 posts)

7. Each district is seperate until the appeals process sets national precedent

Reply to Karma13612 (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:23 PM

6 hrs ago

greatauntoftriplets

(178,357 posts)

2. WTF?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:44 PM

6 hrs ago

Lovie777

(20,578 posts)

4. From what I've read................

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:50 PM

6 hrs ago

judge has not made a decision until Thursday.

ancianita

(42,126 posts)

6. This Biden judge is following the law, giving the defendants time to justify themselves. Which they can't and won't.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:09 PM

6 hrs ago

The 7th Circuit (under Amy Coney Barrett) is not the same as the 9th Circuit (under Kagan)

These states have to stand up to maga SCOTUS scrutiny and these judges know it.

BumRushDaShow

(161,211 posts)

8. I know in the Oregon case

Reply to ancianita (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:43 PM

5 hrs ago

actual troops from CA had been called up and sent to OR, whereas with IL, no out of state NG have been called up yet.

ancianita

(42,126 posts)

9. True. But remember that civil warmonger Abbott said he'll send his to IL. But as you say, not yet.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:51 PM

5 hrs ago

BumRushDaShow

(161,211 posts)

10. Many of the earliest suits against 45 back in February and March for all kinds of illegalities, had been thrown out

Reply to ancianita (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 05:58 PM

5 hrs ago

because the "threats" of doing something, "hadn't happened yet", and thus the issues were "not an 'emergency'" requiring an immediate TRO. The "threats" DID eventually happen however, and the parties refiled.

In this IL case, it looks like there is a hearing scheduled for Thursday to review.

ancianita

(42,126 posts)

11. Yes. I hope the judge also keeps the general NG 'landscape' in mind as she hears the defense.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 06:05 PM

5 hrs ago

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,781 posts)

12. "If I were the government, I would strongly consider taking a pause on this until Thursday"

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 06:30 PM

5 hrs ago

Judge in Illinois case on National Guard: "If I were the government, I would strongly consider taking a pause on this until Thursday."

The court "declined to quickly issue a temporary order ... while urging the government to delay the controversial plan until she rules."
— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw.bsky.social) 2025-10-06T20:56:21.463Z

Judge in Illinois case on National Guard: "If I were the government, I would strongly consider taking a pause on this until Thursday"

The court "declined to quickly issue a temporary order ... while urging the government to delay the controversial plan until she rules."

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,781 posts)

13. There is a hearing on Thursday

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:15 PM

4 hrs ago

Link to tweet

BumRushDaShow

(161,211 posts)

14. She seemed to hint that if they tried to do something BEFORE Thursday

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:17 PM

4 hrs ago

she would slap a TRO on it until the hearing.

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,781 posts)

15. There used to be a concept called presumption of regularity that the trump DOJ has thrown away

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:55 PM

3 hrs ago

Judges are having to be very careful in their orders

Judges are having to write orders to combat DOJ gamesmanship b/c the presumption of regularity is toast, i.e.: Judge Xinis: "Is my oral order sufficient or do you need it in writing now?" or last night when DoJ circumvented a TRO on semantics. We discuss: www.muellershewrote.com/p/new-judge-...
— Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2025-10-06T19:33:43.917Z

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