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groundloop

(13,308 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:38 PM 17 hrs ago

Northwestern students blocked from enrollment after refusing controversial antisemitism training

Source: The Guardian

At least 300 students have been prohibited from registering for classes at Northwestern University because they refused to watch a controversial antisemitism training video that they said was biased in favor of Israel, contained factual inaccuracies and could inflame campus tension over Gaza.

The university’s decision puts jobs, visas, stipends and health insurance at risk, students said during a press conference in Chicago on Friday morning, but those who spoke said they were still unwilling to do the training.

“The training is not just about silencing speech, but achieving consent so that we are complicit,” said Salma Moustafa, a PhD student in sociology. “Northwestern wants its student and faculty body to pretend it is not happening and instead consume propaganda that justifies the Israeli Zionist occupation project.”

Students were required to complete the training by mid-September to be able to register.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/27/northwestern-university-classes

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Northwestern students blocked from enrollment after refusing controversial antisemitism training (Original Post) groundloop 17 hrs ago OP
I'd have to see the video to know more Justice Brandeis 17 hrs ago #1
i'd rly like to see it, myself. mopinko 15 hrs ago #6
I disagree angrychair 14 hrs ago #8
Same here. yardwork 14 hrs ago #15
Had to watch several for work MichMan 13 hrs ago #17
Fuck anti-semites The Mouth 16 hrs ago #2
Why aren't we calling this stuff "Woke"?? intrepidity 16 hrs ago #3
If they refused to watch it, how are they so certain as to what was in it? MichMan 15 hrs ago #4
Because angrychair 14 hrs ago #9
Just take someone else's opinions about it rather than find out for themselves. MichMan 14 hrs ago #10
Good edit (nt) muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #13
Why just a video on antisemitism? angrychair 14 hrs ago #14
Let's see how they are said to have described the video that they are said not to have watched: xocetaceans 15 hrs ago #5
And so many wouldn't support Harris TexasBushwhacker 14 hrs ago #11
Because the video is being required angrychair 14 hrs ago #12
this is their response to an eo from mango mussolini. mopinko 15 hrs ago #7
*Admiration* ananda 13 hrs ago #16
I found an article that attempts to describe.... reACTIONary 13 hrs ago #18
Looks like the "free speech absolutists" are at it again Prairie Gates 10 hrs ago #19

Justice Brandeis

(304 posts)
1. I'd have to see the video to know more
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:56 PM
17 hrs ago

But as last year's encampments and protests exposed rather clearly there is definitely an anti-Semitism problem among GenZ and on the Left (just like there is on the Right).

There is a way to criticize Israel's policies and Netanyahu without resorting to anti-Semitic tropes, stereotypes and conspiracy theories.

mopinko

(72,990 posts)
6. i'd rly like to see it, myself.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 02:52 PM
15 hrs ago

so much of what we know about what is happening there is coming straight from hamas. antisemitism is in their blood. college kids cd use some facts and background.

angrychair

(11,172 posts)
8. I disagree
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:15 PM
14 hrs ago

Anyone stupid enough to say even the slightest criticism gets rained death on in social media and reported.
I commented on a reel on Instagram about EU nations recognizing Palestine, saying "Israel isn't making any friends" that's it, that's all I wrote and it was removed and I got a warning.
I genuinely know of no place on the internet where you can make even the mildest of comments about Israel and not get skewered for it.

For that very reason I normally don't comment on these stories but I also feel like I'm being cowed into submission, typically even saying the word "Gaza" can get a comment hidden on most social media lately.
Israel has a right to exist but so do Palestinians.

yardwork

(68,141 posts)
15. Same here.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:57 PM
14 hrs ago

Without seeing the video I can't comment.

Northwestern is a private institution and they have the right to require things. My employer requires me to take various kinds of "trainings" each year. They're usually pretty lame but it's not a problem to sit through them for a half hour or so.

Employers and institutions have also been requiring DEI trainings for years.

MichMan

(15,995 posts)
17. Had to watch several for work
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:27 PM
13 hrs ago

Anti-Bias, Sexual Harassment, Safety, Environmental, and probably a few others during the years.

Just watched them and then just went back to work. HR could check off that they did their job.

Wonder where the students plan on transferring to?

intrepidity

(8,467 posts)
3. Why aren't we calling this stuff "Woke"??
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 02:03 PM
16 hrs ago

We never effectively turn their words back on them.

MichMan

(15,995 posts)
10. Just take someone else's opinions about it rather than find out for themselves.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:19 PM
14 hrs ago

Isn't that the same criticism we give Fox News viewers?

angrychair

(11,172 posts)
14. Why just a video on antisemitism?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:51 PM
14 hrs ago

Why not a video that includes antisemitism, misogyny, racism, bigotry and xenophobia as well?

Because videos on those issues are now considered "DEI" but videos on antisemitism are now required for admission.
They could have got the same message across in a much less confrontational manner by addressing all those issues, without any specific bias to any, and then if people still balked then I would question their actions.

xocetaceans

(4,270 posts)
5. Let's see how they are said to have described the video that they are said not to have watched:
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 02:50 PM
15 hrs ago
"...because they refused to watch a controversial antisemitism training video that they said was biased in favor of Israel, contained factual inaccuracies and could inflame campus tension over Gaza."


It seems moronically stupid to protest in this manner. Instead, watch the video, preserve your options, and protest its content (or better still the conflict) in an informed manner (having actually seen the video) from that point on. This is just as stupid as throwing the vote to Trump because Harris/Biden was just too unpalatable. Somehow, it could not be understood that Trump/Vance would be infinitely worse vis-à-vis Gaza. This sort of idiotic protest is essentially what gave Netanyahu carte blanche not to stop short of complete defeat of Hamas in Gaza, no matter how many are killed incidentally along the way.

This protest is just kicking and screaming "I will not comply!" and asserting a fig leaf of "not being complicit". Stupid. Watching a video hardly makes one complicit. The only reason not to watch such a video and to take the resistance to this level immediately is if one actually does not think that one's case has enough merit on its own to withstand whatever is in the video.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,019 posts)
11. And so many wouldn't support Harris
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:20 PM
14 hrs ago

because she had the gall to say the problem in Israel was "complex".

Well, IT IS COMPLEX!

angrychair

(11,172 posts)
12. Because the video is being required
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:23 PM
14 hrs ago

Others have seen the video and reported on its contents.
Why are they specifically being required to watch a video on antisemitism? Why not a comprehensive video on antisemitism, racism, misogyny and bigotry? Isn't that important too?
Because those type of videos are considered "DEI" now.

mopinko

(72,990 posts)
7. this is their response to an eo from mango mussolini.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:01 PM
15 hrs ago

there’s also a vid on anti-arab prejudice.
i’d like to see it.

reACTIONary

(6,727 posts)
18. I found an article that attempts to describe....
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:58 PM
13 hrs ago

..... the contents and point of view of the video by people who have seen it.. It contains both positive and negative descriptions and examples. One negative description came from a member of Jewish Voices for Peace:

Near the end of the module, the training compares statements from anti-Israel activists to quotes from David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Klu Klux Klan, stating that all the quotes were antisemitic.

“One of the quotes is something like, ‘As a Jewish person, I reject the conflation of my Judaism with Zionism,’ which is pretty akin to JVP’s talking points,” the JVP member said. “They equate that to being the same thing as the KKK, which is one, wrong, and two, deeply offensive.”


https://dailynorthwestern.com/2025/03/10/campus/new-required-bias-training-met-with-boycotts-from-sjp-and-jvp-approval-from-others/

Since the video or training is not on line, that I can determine, there isn't any way to verify the opinions, positive or negative, that were expressed in the article.
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