Shocking.

What about those bootstraps? Or are they only for us?

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that says all this nonsense he's done is ILLEGAL AS HELL, the US govt has to pay back every tarriff penny they illegally collected.
Surplus, my ass.

They should ALSO also know, the tariffs are the reason the farmers all got fucked on this deal to begin with.

Maybe, they should be reporting on the nature of face-eating leopards, so stupid maga morons stop doing this to themselves.

and handing it to the next Democratic party president is a bridge too far for Roberts and Barret.

I guess we'll see.

Awaiting the funds donnie. Know it'll be any day

It's always two weeks with him.

These clowns are running the government. They can freely admit their incompetence.

The point is they can do that. They use their own names. Everyday trump stays in power is a small victory for him.

He said: "They came back to me the next morning ans said 'sir (sire), we found it on the tariff shelf'"

I do not know if they were big burley mwen with tears in their eyes but when tsf says they called him "sir"..... he is fucking lying.

But we knew that.

Three puts us right at Christmas.

Explaining the stupidity of what he is doing isn't worth the effort.

Of Americans are not the brightest, and believe the sociopath that there is a free lunch.

One of the things these "farmers" are doing is leasing their land to corporate farm industries who do the actual farming. The ones that run their farm operations around here are, as you said, huge. Gone are the red barns and they are replaced with 100k sq ft buildings holding 10s of millions of dollars worth of machinery and many have their own giant holding/drying silos so they can play the commodities market.

Another thing that is going on is real estate. Indianapolis, like many medium sized or so Midwest cities are now bleeding directly into the farmland and absorbing the once small farming communities around it with suburban sprawl. Many of these large farmers also carry huge lines of credit when needed capable of borrowing millions. I have been seeing a surge over the last 10 years of farmers within an hour or so of downtown blocking out a couple of acres out of say 1k, getting a zone variance for residential and building huge 6,7,8k sq ft multi million dollar monstrosity "castle" like homes and selling them for god knows how much profit. These things are ugly as hell and so out of place. Every one with a 4 car garage, a mini barn, a Kubota to cut the grass, maybe even an acre for a couple of horses for these nickel millionaire fucks who move into them. I mean every city of this size or larger has some bit coin millionaires just salivating to live the lifestyles etc. Average Joes who basically hit the lottery (I personally know one who held on to 30 bitcoin until he retired and bought one of these things for 2 million cash down the road from me). These aren't subdivisions mind you, most of these rural counties have hard zoning laws on how much land must be used for far/grazing/green space in order to qualify for State and Federal tax advantages. This is especially going on in the county to the North of Indy which has the highest concentration of millionaires in the state and is 75% farm land (Home of the Hitler Youth Moms for Liberty flyer).

If I had it to waste and could bet, I'd bet these places will be empty and falling down 10-20 years just like the remnants of the small family farms of yesteryear scattered around the country here. It sickens me to no end and reminds me of modern day feudalism.

Consumers ultimately pay whatever tariff is not paid by the seller, which is most of the tariff. Then this money paid to the government Trump is going to give to the farmers. And we know that the huge, well-connected corporate farms will get the bulk of the money.

It won't work this time.

Farm bankruptcies jumped 20% in 2019, even with billions in aid from U.S.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farm-bankruptcies-jumped-20-percent-in-2019-even-with-billions-in-aid-from-u-s-government/

Trump has pissed off the world so trade will be dismal, tourism demolished.

BUYING VOTES here. Help the farmers, because they will SCREAM the loudest.

You will bring riches and prosperity to yourself and to all glorious MAGA people!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

since argentina is a model conservative economy.

so far.

They know that Trump's policies destroy their markets and result in government subsidies. That's what happened the last time and that's what's happening now. It stands to reason that these MAGA farmers knew that they would be and will be bailed out, and voted the way they did because they can't compete on the market and don't want to work. How long do we have to bail out these parasitic, lazy farmers?

Not like it hasn't been done before.

With an oink oink here and an oink oink there

Guess that is old-school stuff.

The Republicans in Congress have decided not to do their Constituionally mandated duties.

Instead, they will turn those duties over to Trump and whatever Lunatic-O-the-Day has caught his attention.

Wish I had a tariff shelf to check every now and then!!

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-says-hell-bail-out-farmers-who-are-going-to-be-hurt-with-tariff-surplus/

..........Trump then repeated a story about finding billions of dollars “on the tariff shelf.”

“We’re finding, the other day, it was very interesting — they found $31 billion,” Trump said.

They said, “Sir,” I said, “You mean positively, right?” They said, “Yeah, 31 more than we knew. We didn’t know where it came from.” I said, “Check the tariff shelf.” They came back the following morning, they said, “You’re right sir, it came from the tariffs. We’ve never seen anything like this.”

So what we’re going to be doing is taking some money from all of the tariff money that we’re taking and we’re going to be distributing it to all of our farmers, until the tariffs kick in to their benefit. which, ultimately, the farmers are going to be making a fortune. But it’s a process that ultimately has to kick in.

During his last term, he bailed out the farmers to the tune of $32 billion, that way they would continue to vote for him. Now he is going to give them another $31 billion. At least this is all in our faces.

always end up getting most of the bail out money, while the family owned farms are going belly up just like he did in his first term..........

There is no "surplus tariff money" if you are still in debt. The debt holders come before all others.

I never heard where the money was going or what it was to be used for. You can't have a surplus if you don't have a goal.

Foreign countries, foreign industries, and foreign agricultural producers aren’t paying the
tariffs the American people are paying them.

But now I can be your hero by fucking over the country with my tariffs , stealing from your fellow Americans, and giving you a pittance.

Ain't I wonderful!!??

I thought farmers hate welfare. I guess it depends on who is getting it.

Once you've lost a customer, it's next to impossible to get them back. Trump was apparently under the impression that China couldn't get soybeans, wheat, etc from ANYWHERE ELSE on the planet. It turns out they were able to get it from Brazil just fine.

Even when the tariffs are removed/reduced, the farmers will have a heck of a time being able to ship to China again.

Republican stay out of my business credo.......

Small, family farmers, who by the way are usually 'incorporated' for many reasons, will be SOL.

Got to bail out fellow millionaires.

Since the Congress has no function, let's shut it down and save all those salaries.

Revenue taken in by the US Treasury in FY 2025 (includes tariffs) = $4.69 Trillion.

US Spending in FY 2025 $6.66 Trillion.

Surplus = NEGATIVE $1.97 Trillion

Amount added to National debt = $1.97 Trillion

The convicted felon will need congress to create a new Tariff Superfund to do what he wants to do. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
I guess those farmers can now throw away their “TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING” hats.
First he took their laborers away and then he destroyed their markets.

can't stand his idiotic ass. BTW, what becomes of all the surplus crops? They won't keep in storage fer crissakes. There have been record yields this season and NO market(s) to sell them to thanks to dumb fuck's non deal with China, historically our biggest Soybean buyer:

https://www.tspr.org/2025-09-25/china-trade-american-soybean-farmers-limited-options-sell-grain