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BumRushDaShow

(160,623 posts)
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:37 PM Saturday

California Gov. Newsom signs bill aimed at banning law enforcement from using face coverings

Source: KCRA-TV Sacramento, CA

Updated: 11:47 AM PDT Sep 20, 2025


Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday signed legislation that aims to make California the first state to ban most law enforcement from covering their faces while carrying out operations.

Senate Bill 627, authored by Sen. Scott Wiener, D-San Francisco, was in response to federal immigration raids where officers have been seen wearing masks. It would prohibit neck gaiters, ski masks and other facial coverings for local and federal officers, including immigration enforcement agents, while they conduct official business. It makes exceptions for undercover agents, medical masks such as N95 respirators or tactical gear.

Republican lawmakers and law enforcement agencies were opposed to the bill, arguing it would make officers’ and agents’ job more dangerous. Immigration officials have cited the fear of agents and their families being doxed. It’s unclear if California will be able to enforce the measure. Newsom also signed several other bills that his office argued would counter “secret police tactics” by the president and Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.

The package of legislation would require that families be notified when immigration agents come on school campuses and require a judicial warrant or court order before giving student information or classroom access to ICE.

Read more: https://www.kcra.com/article/california-gov-newsom-signs-bill-banning-law-enforcement-from-using-face-coverings/67980150

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California Gov. Newsom signs bill aimed at banning law enforcement from using face coverings (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Love it. Thank you Governor Newsom. nt SunSeeker Saturday #1
All Blue States Should Follow Suite: Chasstev365 Saturday #2
There are several that are working on something similar. chowder66 Saturday #8
I love this and Rec! Ponietz Saturday #3
How specifically will they enforce this? flvegan Saturday #4
Actually, this is a step to making it enforcable Metaphorical Saturday #5
"ICE agents still have to follow state laws" flvegan Saturday #6
I'm hoping they WILL arrest until courts tell them not too. bluestarone Saturday #14
I wonder if this might also open the door to civil suits against ICE agents Bluetus Saturday #11
"ICE agents still have to follow state laws" Polybius Sunday #25
I wish it were more generic in terms of hiding identity intrepidity Saturday #7
"...if another pandemic breaks out..." markodochartaigh Saturday #15
They are worried about being doxxed - which as law enforcement they can work on going after the doxxers chowder66 Saturday #9
The doxxing thing is bullshit IMHO progressoid Saturday #10
Most likely because they are made up of a bunch of temporary citizens looking to get their kicks. J6ers and people with chowder66 Saturday #12
No,they are worried about being committing violence and getting caught. It's about evading Justice. Blues Heron Sunday #29
I know. I'm pointing out how ridiculous chowder66 Sunday #30
K&R red dog 1 Saturday #13
Thanks again, Governor Newsom. Magoo48 Saturday #16
Best of Good Luck Gov Newsom! Cha Saturday #17
Arrest information is public record JoseBalow Saturday #18
Ironically, RFK can institute a Federal mandate to wear face masks to combat Covid. Buddyzbuddy Saturday #19
Actually - he cannot FBaggins Sunday #20
Works for me, thanks. Buddyzbuddy Sunday #21
There is this thing called the Supremacy Clause somsai Sunday #22
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Sunday #23
Except that they have given short shrift BumRushDaShow Sunday #27
Except when red states ignore it BumRushDaShow Sunday #28
If you think local law enforcement will enforce this, you live in a fantasy. ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #24
Some, but not all. Illinois' Trust Act and Illinois Way Forward Act prohibit ancianita Sunday #31
Any hint of Nazi shit from ANY law enforcement should be squashed STAT Blues Heron Sunday #26

chowder66

(11,319 posts)
8. There are several that are working on something similar.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:57 PM
Saturday

"Democrats in Congress and lawmakers in several states, including Tennessee, Michigan, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, have also introduced similar proposals calling for mask bans for law enforcement officers."


https://abc7.com/post/california-bans-most-law-enforcement-officers-wearing-masks-during-operations/17856254/

flvegan

(65,293 posts)
4. How specifically will they enforce this?
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:26 PM
Saturday

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Zero consequences, zero change.

I will say that it's good to see Newsom/CA pass this at any rate. It's a shame it was even needed.

Metaphorical

(2,522 posts)
5. Actually, this is a step to making it enforcable
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:36 PM
Saturday

ICE agents still have to follow state laws, and they can be arrested by state law enforcement for breaking those laws.

It's pretty evident that Trump's Icestapo uses masks in order to prevent blowback for what are clearly illegal actions. If masks are needed, then a judge will need to sign a warrant for their use (thinking primarily tactical gear, in which an officer still needs to display their namebadge), so it really has little significant impact on local LEO. What it does do is to identify what amount to vigilantes and require them to follow the same requirements - and to restore at least a little bit of due process against Trump's vast overreach.

flvegan

(65,293 posts)
6. "ICE agents still have to follow state laws"
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:42 PM
Saturday

True, but they don't seem to follow those laws.

But, tell you what, when state law enforcement starts arresting these guys for using masks on the regular, I will happily come back here and reply in all caps that I was wrong. And I do mean happily.

bluestarone

(20,350 posts)
14. I'm hoping they WILL arrest until courts tell them not too.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:43 PM
Saturday

For awhile anyhow, so we'll see.

Bluetus

(1,578 posts)
11. I wonder if this might also open the door to civil suits against ICE agents
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:28 PM
Saturday

The problem now is that these goods are hard to identify positively. If ripping off the masks makes them identifiable, then perhaps they will be personally liable for their assaults and other extra-judicial acts.

This might cause many of them to drop out of ICE, or at least stop creaking the laws.

Plus it is a virtual certainly that many of these ICE thugs are already felons and I bet more than a few have outstanding warrants from previous crimes before they joined ICE. That would be a very good reason to keep their faces covered. And if they know they are likely to have their bare faces shown all over the Internet, they will suddenly decide ICE isn't really their calling after all.

intrepidity

(8,460 posts)
7. I wish it were more generic in terms of hiding identity
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 04:50 PM
Saturday

The issue is broader than just face coverings, and in fact if another pandemic breaks out where facial masking becomes a big thing again, might this backfire somehow?

ETA: nevermind, just noticed it has exceptions for this.

markodochartaigh

(4,117 posts)
15. "...if another pandemic breaks out..."
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:45 PM
Saturday

If? I think that "when" is the appropriate conjunction.

chowder66

(11,319 posts)
9. They are worried about being doxxed - which as law enforcement they can work on going after the doxxers
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:04 PM
Saturday

but citizens are being kidnapped, abused and in some instances killed and they don't know who is doing it.
There have been instances of criminals impersonating masked enforcement AND most (if any) agencies weren't wearing neck gators before the immigrant purge.... so SUCK IT UP.

progressoid

(51,992 posts)
10. The doxxing thing is bullshit IMHO
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:25 PM
Saturday

Why are no other law enforcement agencies worried about this?

chowder66

(11,319 posts)
12. Most likely because they are made up of a bunch of temporary citizens looking to get their kicks. J6ers and people with
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 05:31 PM
Saturday

other jobs/careers.

Blues Heron

(7,608 posts)
29. No,they are worried about being committing violence and getting caught. It's about evading Justice.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:53 AM
Sunday

FBaggins

(28,445 posts)
20. Actually - he cannot
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 12:16 AM
Sunday

Mask mandates were recommended by federal agencies - but had to be implemented by the states (which is why there were such variable requirements around the country)

(An exception being the federal workforce and/or on federal property)

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,622 posts)
23. Yep
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:38 AM
Sunday

Local cop tries to arrest masked ICE agent, gets arrested by federal marshal for interfering with immigration enforcement.

BumRushDaShow

(160,623 posts)
28. Except when red states ignore it
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:52 AM
Sunday

and declare "states rights" (for themselves but not for others).

We will see how the SCOTUS deals with "birthright citizenship" at some point (the idiot 6, who should have waved it away immediately, may end up waiting until who knows when to rule while states make up their own "rules" ).

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,091 posts)
24. If you think local law enforcement will enforce this, you live in a fantasy.
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 09:42 AM
Sunday

State, county, and city law enforcement are backing ICE.

ancianita

(41,961 posts)
31. Some, but not all. Illinois' Trust Act and Illinois Way Forward Act prohibit
Sun Sep 21, 2025, 03:59 PM
Sunday

-- local agencies from participating in immigration enforcement operations.
-- holding individuals solely on the basis of a request from ICE (an immigration detainer).
-- transferring individuals to federal immigration agents for civil immigration issues unless there is a criminal warrant.
-- counties from entering into contracts with ICE to rent jail space.
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