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BumRushDaShow

(160,656 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:37 AM Sep 18

Hollywood comes to Kimmel's defense after ABC pulls late-night show

Source: Reuters

September 18, 2025 1:08 AM EDT Updated 5 hours ago


LOS ANGELES, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Hollywood blasted the White House for targeting free speech after ABC pulled Jimmy Kimmel's talk on Wednesday under regulatory threats from Donald Trump's administration, rallying behind the late-night comic after his comments about the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Walt Disney (DIS.N)-owned broadcaster said it was yanking "Jimmy Kimmel Live" indefinitely after at least one affiliate said it would replace the show on its airwaves and the nation's top communications regulator threatened investigations due to Kimmel's statements.

The late-night host, a frequent Trump critic, had suggested in his monologue on Monday that Kirk's allies were using his death to "score political points".

Unions representing writers and actors said the move amounted to an attack on constitutionally protected free-speech rights, saying ABC should not have caved in the face of U.S. government pressure.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/hollywood-comes-kimmels-defense-after-abc-pulls-late-night-show-2025-09-18/

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Hollywood comes to Kimmel's defense after ABC pulls late-night show (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 18 OP
So what are you going to do. Wring hands? twodogsbarking Sep 18 #1
What else should they do? Other than stomping and gnashing their teeth... what realistic steps are in order? QueerDuck Sep 18 #2
I was looking for an answer not more questions. twodogsbarking Sep 18 #4
What more do you want "Hollywood" to do? Did you have something specific in mind? QueerDuck Sep 18 #38
A complete boycott of all msm and streaming services.. ananda Sep 18 #21
Hit them in the wallet. Hard. twodogsbarking Sep 18 #31
find alternative ways to watch anything you want moonshinegnomie Sep 18 #49
PBS is the only service I stream. ananda Sep 18 #50
Most people don't know just how well a indoor/outdoor antenna works Bengus81 Sep 18 #57
And then send a letter to the editor about it! calimary Sep 18 #61
Every podcaster should have Jimmy on. BonnieJW Sep 18 #42
That's an excellent idea. Publicity and defiance and unity. QueerDuck Sep 18 #44
Refuse to write or perform for the network until Jimmy is restored. 3Hotdogs Sep 18 #68
What should "Liberal Hollywood" do? Stop doing any appearances on ABC and CBS. The networks need them on their LiberalArkie Sep 18 #30
Starting out negative.. is not helpful or Cha Sep 18 #60
Bottom line here is that Kimmel himself is rich, and doesn't need the show Prairie Gates Sep 18 #3
You sound like a couple of friends of mine. Biophilic Sep 18 #7
"Kimmel should have known better"??, NO! this is an attack on free speech, the stuff republicans say its thousand Escurumbele Sep 18 #26
I notice BonnieJW Sep 18 #43
And Gutfeld Diamond_Dog Sep 18 #55
Thank you for digging in on this point. FalloutShelter Sep 18 #27
I thought these guys were all about free speech..? Username1234 Sep 18 #5
Yep...what he stated has ZERO do with Kirk himself but MAGA itself Bengus81 Sep 18 #9
Right. Kimmell wasn't mocking Kirk's death, 70sEraVet Sep 18 #17
From the looks of him, there's ONE thing that could stop him Callie1979 Sep 18 #56
Yep..just like Covid,it doesn't care who you are and neither do other diseases of the body Bengus81 Sep 18 #58
Covid damn near took care of it in 2020. I'll just leave it at that Callie1979 Sep 18 #63
A lawsuit against it and ABC for violating the first amendment? mwmisses4289 Sep 18 #6
Again, the legal argument Miguelito Loveless Sep 18 #11
My memory may be a little fuzzy, mwmisses4289 Sep 18 #12
And a company like Disney/ABC... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 18 #24
An argument could be made that Disney/ABC Miguelito Loveless Sep 18 #35
Disney/ABC as a network... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 18 #37
Weren't threats made by the govt? Threats to revoke licenses? Wouldn't that be basis for establishing wiggs Sep 18 #20
The suit would have to be against the FCC SickOfTheOnePct Sep 18 #25
kimmel should sue the head of the fcc carr personally for 15 Billion moonshinegnomie Sep 18 #48
Well, I agree, Miguelito Loveless Sep 18 #33
Private companies can fire for speech Polybius Sep 18 #66
The 4th Estate OC375 Sep 18 #8
They should refuse JBTaurus83 Sep 18 #10
They should not kacekwl Sep 18 #13
SAG should call a work stoppage for all Disney projects jgmiller Sep 18 #14
This! FalloutShelter Sep 18 #28
Once the telecoms achieve a monopoly, they won't care what people think. JohnnyRingo Sep 18 #15
Im dumping everything disney from our lifestyle right now samnsara Sep 18 #16
What/Who will replace Kimmel? stollen Sep 18 #18
I just pre-empted ABC and Disney for the foreseeable future! 3825-87867 Sep 18 #19
all the pillars of Democracy are being destroyed samsingh Sep 18 #22
Time for general strike? Not sure SAG strike would be adequate or effective enough. But if you add wiggs Sep 18 #23
Defend Kimmel Jean Genie Sep 18 #29
I moved to California in 1969 and thought I should visit Disneyland. Walt built it for my generation. spike jones Sep 18 #32
WE ALL NEED TO STAND WITH KIMMEL! OrlandoDem2 Sep 18 #34
Knowing Disney they will replace Kimmel with moniss Sep 18 #36
The best response would be two fold. moniss Sep 18 #39
Move Kimmel Rebl2 Sep 18 #40
If CBS and ABC are cancelling shows, the contracts these guys had no longer exist FakeNoose Sep 18 #45
my idea was for netflix or apple to hire them moonshinegnomie Sep 18 #47
Sounds like Rebl2 Sep 18 #62
Yep Rebl2 Sep 18 #53
The stars/union need to strike and boycott all ABC and Disney programs. Liberty Belle Sep 18 #41
i canceled disney+ last night moonshinegnomie Sep 18 #46
The Cancel Games OC375 Sep 18 #51
We need to boycott Disney and hit them where their pockets all! kimbutgar Sep 18 #52
It's not just ''... Kirk's allies were using his death to "score political points'' ... aggiesal Sep 18 #54
No Kidding! Mahalo for Calling Out Cha Sep 18 #59
All of this torment over late-night broadcasts that nobody was watching. Gimpyknee Sep 18 #64
"Cobert, himself fucked by CBS, could join in and go out in a blaze of glory." BumRushDaShow Sep 18 #65
There is no use blasting the WH, they have no remorse and never will. It is ABC and those who capitulate to the WH Bev54 Sep 18 #67
Trump has no sense of humor bmichaelh Friday #69

QueerDuck

(100 posts)
2. What else should they do? Other than stomping and gnashing their teeth... what realistic steps are in order?
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:56 AM
Sep 18

Perhaps a sternly written letter? That seems to be a good fall-back that draws ire from those who demand more.

QueerDuck

(100 posts)
38. What more do you want "Hollywood" to do? Did you have something specific in mind?
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:35 AM
Sep 18

It seems that their response so far is not meeting your expectations, so I was wondering what you may have been expecting. That's all.

ananda

(33,303 posts)
21. A complete boycott of all msm and streaming services..
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:54 AM
Sep 18

that don't support free speech.

That's the only solution I can think of...

and I mean by everyone, not just Hollywood.

ananda

(33,303 posts)
50. PBS is the only service I stream.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:45 AM
Sep 18

I watch it on Prime.

There are loads of good shows.

I haven't run out yet.

Bengus81

(9,444 posts)
57. Most people don't know just how well a indoor/outdoor antenna works
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:19 PM
Sep 18

I swear especially on football games the picture is superior.

calimary

(87,905 posts)
61. And then send a letter to the editor about it!
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:10 PM
Sep 18

To your own local paper, for starters.

And online.

And with friends.

And anywhere else where those words AND that point can get public EXPOSURE.

What NOT to do:
Suffer in silence.
Don’t object in any way.
Stifle it. Maybe the pain will go away…
…maybe.

BonnieJW

(3,023 posts)
42. Every podcaster should have Jimmy on.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:02 AM
Sep 18

All the late night shows that are left should have Jimmy on

LiberalArkie

(18,970 posts)
30. What should "Liberal Hollywood" do? Stop doing any appearances on ABC and CBS. The networks need them on their
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:19 AM
Sep 18

shows to get the audience ratings.

Prairie Gates

(6,336 posts)
3. Bottom line here is that Kimmel himself is rich, and doesn't need the show
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:58 AM
Sep 18

The camera operators, writers, accountants, set and lighting folks, ushers, security guards, caterers, and others do need the show.

That Kimmel has been a Trump target long before any of this is also well-known. To be frank, Kimmel should have known better, but that's a bit of victim blaming and some of the trauma of a child of an occasionally abusive parent - I knew when he was in a rage and I knew to be quiet during those times. That's essentially what we're living through right now: the abusive family member is in an absolute rage and you're either quiet or you're their target.

Biophilic

(6,096 posts)
7. You sound like a couple of friends of mine.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:12 AM
Sep 18

They’ve vowed to avoid all news. Stick to their backyard garden and pretend everything is alright. They’ve taught me a lot about 1930s Germany. Kimmel’s very job was to peck at the powers that be. That was his job! Not hide behind platitudes and doilies. Neither he nor his show could survive that. And, basically, once you’ve made that move there is no going back.

Escurumbele

(3,908 posts)
26. "Kimmel should have known better"??, NO! this is an attack on free speech, the stuff republicans say its thousand
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:09 AM
Sep 18

times worst. We all remember the target crosses Sarah Palin posted on Obama photos and other Democrats, and everyday republicans insult Democrats, Patel insulted Adam Schiff during the congressional hearing, and other people too when he did not like the questions or the facts, he was playing trump's playbook, one he does when he has no answers.

No, this is unacceptable, and yes, we all should boycott Disney and all the networks that allow these thugs to threaten them, and to accept the treats.

These people are not governing, they spend the entire day creating chaos, protecting trump's ego, it has to stop, it gets worst every day.

FalloutShelter

(13,824 posts)
27. Thank you for digging in on this point.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:09 AM
Sep 18

There are many people who will lose their jobs when this show goes dark.
They are NOT millionaires.

I really think the unions should take this up and pull the plug on the network. All this 'indefinite" language leaves all of these folks and their families in limbo.

Username1234

(20 posts)
5. I thought these guys were all about free speech..?
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:04 AM
Sep 18

Not to mention: Kimmel's comment is objectively true.

70sEraVet

(4,921 posts)
17. Right. Kimmell wasn't mocking Kirk's death,
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sep 18

He was criticising how the MAGA Republicans were taking advantage of Kirk's death.
Trump has 39 more months of his Revenge Tour, and there seems to be no stopping him.

Bengus81

(9,444 posts)
58. Yep..just like Covid,it doesn't care who you are and neither do other diseases of the body
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:22 PM
Sep 18

mwmisses4289

(2,309 posts)
6. A lawsuit against it and ABC for violating the first amendment?
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:04 AM
Sep 18

There are already several against it, based on his actions.

Edited to add: protests outside main and affiliated abc stations?
weekly or daily protests outside any venue where it is?

Miguelito Loveless

(5,222 posts)
11. Again, the legal argument
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:58 AM
Sep 18

is that a corporation is not Congress, and only Congress is forbidden from abridging the First Amendment ("Congress shall make no law...&quot .

Corporations may fire employees who damage their business by saying things the corporation disapproves of.

mwmisses4289

(2,309 posts)
12. My memory may be a little fuzzy,
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:16 AM
Sep 18

but it seems I recall several cases where free speech was an issue and it won. I remember being taught this in a long ago history or civics class
(this was high school, so really basic) sort of a hierarchy of law:
Local laws (this included city, towns, villages)
County (could outweigh local laws)
State (could outweigh local and county laws)
Federal (Constitution) where Federal law could outweigh all others

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,646 posts)
24. And a company like Disney/ABC...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:03 AM
Sep 18

...doesn't fall under any of those government entities.

Now, they could try to make the case that Disney/ABC caved because Nexstar and Sinclair pulled the shows (which they had every right to do), and then from there claim that Nexstar and Sinclair caved because of the comments of the FCC chair.

In that case, they would need to sue the FCC, not Disney/ABC.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,222 posts)
35. An argument could be made that Disney/ABC
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:26 AM
Sep 18

had engaged in a conspiracy to suborn the First Amendment, which while true, would be very hard to prove.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,646 posts)
37. Disney/ABC as a network...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:33 AM
Sep 18

...is not regulated by the FCC, rather the individual stations are.

ABC's argument could easily be that it made no business sense to keep the show on the air if stations weren't showing it (even if the stations weren't showing it due to the FCC threat).

ABC has no legal requirement to provide programming for the stations to use - suing them would be useless.


wiggs

(8,446 posts)
20. Weren't threats made by the govt? Threats to revoke licenses? Wouldn't that be basis for establishing
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:52 AM
Sep 18

censorship?

And who would sue? Does Kimmel have enough to go up against the resources of the fed govt? Clearly the outlet owners don't want to do it.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,646 posts)
25. The suit would have to be against the FCC
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:04 AM
Sep 18

And there is no basis for a suit now because Jimmy Kimmel hasn't been fired.

moonshinegnomie

(3,663 posts)
48. kimmel should sue the head of the fcc carr personally for 15 Billion
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:39 AM
Sep 18

take a page out of trumps book

Miguelito Loveless

(5,222 posts)
33. Well, I agree,
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:25 AM
Sep 18

and that is what I would argue. Proving it in court becomes the hurdle. We are talking years of expensive legal battles against parasitically rich corporations with legions of lawyers defending them, assisted by the Federal government. Even if they win, it will be appealed endlessly, and ultimately struck down by the Thomas Court.

By all means fight, but I just don't hold out any hope at this point. We are a de facto dictatorship, with an electorate that really doesn't care. Ignorance has triumphed over reason, violence over compassion, money over morality and law.

OC375

(283 posts)
8. The 4th Estate
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:14 AM
Sep 18

It’s been monetized. There were never any guarantees it would serve the people, I guess. Institutions are failing left and right these days. Who knew some day Disney would be the calling shots alongside elected officials and impacting a nation?

kacekwl

(8,600 posts)
13. They should not
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:17 AM
Sep 18

go on any corporate media at all. Let them have the has been talent maga losers on their programs.

jgmiller

(644 posts)
14. SAG should call a work stoppage for all Disney projects
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:33 AM
Sep 18

Their union is strong and they've fought for a lot of things. Disney is like any company they worry about money, Trump got to them that way, the way now the union should show them they can get to them also.

JohnnyRingo

(20,171 posts)
15. Once the telecoms achieve a monopoly, they won't care what people think.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:35 AM
Sep 18

And we're very close to that now. Indeed probably the main reason he was taken down was because Nextstar, that owns most of the stations here, wants a merger to become even bigger, and they need favor from the govt to do that. Soon the monster will consume the government as well.

samnsara

(18,632 posts)
16. Im dumping everything disney from our lifestyle right now
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:37 AM
Sep 18

....selling stock and unsubscribing from their streaming service. Ive been pissed at them for awhile now and the fact that we never watch that channel makes this an easy decision. Disney doesnt realize...or care.... that WE will be here long after trumps gone.

3825-87867

(1,609 posts)
19. I just pre-empted ABC and Disney for the foreseeable future!
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:51 AM
Sep 18

Needs on a bumper sticker and email.

wiggs

(8,446 posts)
23. Time for general strike? Not sure SAG strike would be adequate or effective enough. But if you add
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:57 AM
Sep 18

up all the injustices and outrages of the last 9 months one could make a strong case and mobilize much of the nation. Too late? Who would lead such an effort?

Not sure this is the best option, but can't think of a better one. Not sure we can count on mid terms.

spike jones

(1,963 posts)
32. I moved to California in 1969 and thought I should visit Disneyland. Walt built it for my generation.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 18

At the gate I was told that long hair guys were not allowed in after dark. I know it has been 56 years but, FUCK MICKEY MOUSE!

OrlandoDem2

(3,110 posts)
34. WE ALL NEED TO STAND WITH KIMMEL!
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:26 AM
Sep 18

This was a bridge too far.

America is irretrievably broken! It has a good run. Fuck the MAGAs!

moniss

(8,117 posts)
39. The best response would be two fold.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:42 AM
Sep 18

First consumers should cancel anything possible that is Disney or ABC related. Second is that writers and performers should refuse to work on/appear on Disney/ABC product.Yes I know that second one is difficult because of contractual obligations etc. but it should be done to any extent possible.

Rebl2

(17,004 posts)
40. Move Kimmel
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:48 AM
Sep 18

to cable along with Colbert. Better yet do podcasts. I never watch the late night shows because I am to tired and very rarely do I record them.

FakeNoose

(38,739 posts)
45. If CBS and ABC are cancelling shows, the contracts these guys had no longer exist
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:19 AM
Sep 18

They are free agents to work and perform wherever they want, for whomever they want.

I have no doubts that Kimmel and Colbert will both land on their feet. Both guys have many fans who will follow them anywhere. But CBS and ABC only care about their advertisers, not their viewers. Also it's obvious they care nothing about freedom of speech or freedom of the press.

Most of the TV advertisers are ultra-wealthy, ultra-conservative types with their heads in a bubble ... you know, the opposite of Ben & Jerry's.

moonshinegnomie

(3,663 posts)
47. my idea was for netflix or apple to hire them
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:38 AM
Sep 18

stars their own show monday -thursday
have kimmel,cobert,john stewart and jon oliver alternate hosting

Rebl2

(17,004 posts)
53. Yep
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:34 PM
Sep 18

the owners are rich and could care less about free speech. They just want their masters happy, and free speech be damned.

Liberty Belle

(9,691 posts)
41. The stars/union need to strike and boycott all ABC and Disney programs.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 18

And urge their fans to do so, too. Imagine if every sitcom and soap opera star walked off the set until Kimmel is returned, Disney films shut down mid-filming due to actors walking off the sets.

Fans need to also boycott Disneyland and Disney World.

The people have more leverage with Disney, owner of ABC, than with the billionaire who owns CBS and Oracle, though refusing to patronize Oracle should also happen.

moonshinegnomie

(3,663 posts)
46. i canceled disney+ last night
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 18

anything they have i want to watch in the future ill just sail teh seven seas.

OC375

(283 posts)
51. The Cancel Games
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 18

I think "cancel culture" has devolved into it's own genre of entertainment, and additionally, I think people are also sick of famous millionaires telling them when outrage is merited or not. As such, I don't see this organically morphing into anything other than "What's Kimmel up to these days?".

kimbutgar

(26,109 posts)
52. We need to boycott Disney and hit them where their pockets all!
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:48 PM
Sep 18

Don’t go to the parks, turn off the station. ( though I am still going to record the reruns of Jimmy to show ratings) I unsubscribed to any Disney emails I receive. And if you have Hulu bye bye.

aggiesal

(10,335 posts)
54. It's not just ''... Kirk's allies were using his death to "score political points'' ...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:37 PM
Sep 18

He said "The MAGA gang is desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them."

Gimpyknee

(684 posts)
64. All of this torment over late-night broadcasts that nobody was watching.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:41 PM
Sep 18

Jimmy Kimmel will do fine. He’s been handsomely paid for his efforts over the years. Unfortunately, viewers have been turning away from such late night shows as his for years. Johnny Carson routinely drew 17 million viewers nightly for years. His final show drew 50 million. Jimmy KImmel drew an average of 129,000 nightly viewers in August. I am not defending ABC, I’m absolutely pissed by their cowardice, but they could have easily fired Kimmel because of low ratings.

We cut ties to television on November 9th, 2016. There was no way we were going to watch and listen to that orange moron in the White House. Eight years later we remain pleased with our decision and are happy once again not to have to watch or listen to the orange moron’s return. This decision has not prevented us from watching Jimmy over the years on any number of streaming sources. I feel confident if Kimmel elects to continue his show he will find a way to distribute it to the public. What I would like to see now is Kimmel going on Stephen Cobert’s The Late Show and letting loose a historic tirade. Cobert, himself fucked by CBS, could join in and go out in a blaze of glory. Now that would be a fabulous late night television broadcast.

Bev54

(12,908 posts)
67. There is no use blasting the WH, they have no remorse and never will. It is ABC and those who capitulate to the WH
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:32 PM
Sep 18

that deserves the wrath of everyone.

bmichaelh

(960 posts)
69. Trump has no sense of humor
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 06:41 AM
Friday

Trump has no sense of humor.

There was a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry David wore a MAGA hat to get out of certain social situations in LA.

He was treated like pariah when he put on the hat.

Trump liked the episode; not realizes it was satire.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a30870485/donald-trump-curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-maga-hat-tweet-explained/

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